http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/8430235-181/bold-california-initiative...
Last time they tried to get it on the ballot they failed to get enough signatures. This time they got over 600K almost double the requirement.
Last time around I was against it. It was a 6 way split. Now years later I'm all for it.
Most of us in Northern California want nothing to do with the LA area...
We could be a 52 state union if congress where to approve it, if we California's do......
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 01:31 am
I think I can speak for the
I think I can speak for the rest of the us when I say that one California is about all we are willing to put up with.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bluelight Odysseus
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 01:50 am
All 3 areas of the state,
All 3 areas of the state, have no idea, one the other 3 are up to & have been up to for the last 36 years.
The root of this problem, is the atrocious education system in the state of California.
Please raise your hand, if you are a California state teacher here & justify this -
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 02:11 am
Hear here Bluelight. The
Hear here Bluelight. The atrocious education system in California needs to be held responsible for the decay of many, many things.
How can this be justified? I have no idea, just like has been going on for 36 years.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: I rang a silent bell China-Rider
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 06:21 am
How would splitting in three
How would splitting in three fix the education system in CA?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zebrachaser Phanatically
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 06:33 am
Gerrymandering.
Gerrymandering.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: I rang a silent bell China-Rider
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 06:35 am
CA is a strong blue state.
CA is a strong blue state. Is this splitting into three a way for republicans to divide and conquer?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 08:39 am
Yup.
Yup.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 08:45 am
>>>>Most of us in Northern
>>>>Most of us in Northern California want nothing to do with the LA area...
Why?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 10:38 am
>CA is a strong blue state.
>CA is a strong blue state. Is this splitting into three a way for republicans to divide and conquer? <
precisely. it would split 1 big dem state...2 of the 3 would now be mostly likely, repub...
>>>Most of us in Northern California want nothing to do with the LA area...
Why?<<
because they like to feel a false sense of superiority, and we take their water.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 10:53 am
To be fair most of Northern
To be fair most of Northern California doesn’t want anything to do with 2Dork.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 10:54 am
also, what is the 36 yr thing
also, what is the 36 yr thing?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 11:30 am
pretty sure he meant 30 years
pretty sure he meant 30 years.
>>>Most of us in Northern California want nothing to do with the LA area...
>>> why
Because the Dodgers. and Scientology.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 11:32 am
The best games in baseball
The best games in baseball are Dodgers v Giants in LA and San Francisco.
Cant have one without the other.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 11:47 am
According to the news article
According to the news article above, each of the three Californias would have a major city (San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego). Wouldn't that be enough to make each new state vote blue and give the Democrats four additional senate seats?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 11:55 am
Maybe the Chargers could move
Maybe the Chargers could move to the 3rd California?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 11:58 am
agreed, Slacker.
agreed, Slacker.
Chargers should move to TJ.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Eddie edsh
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 12:10 pm
>>>Chargers should move to TJ
>>>Chargers should move to TJ.
What will Trump say when players kneel for the Mexican National Anthem?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 12:13 pm
Ole can ju see
Ole can ju see
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 12:15 pm
>>>>>Chargers should move to
>>>>>Chargers should move to TJ.
I’ve been saying that for years. Would have been awesome.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 12:40 pm
> Wouldn't that be enough to
> Wouldn't that be enough to make each new state vote blue and give the Democrats four additional senate seats?<
no. OC and SD are red.
los chargers de tijuana does have a ring...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 12:45 pm
ps. anyone that thinks this
ps. anyone that thinks this is a good idea...you are in the same intellectual camp that 2dank is in...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Franklin Page HotnannySF
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 01:16 pm
Only old people care about
Only old people care about the LA vs SF anymore except in baseball. FYI
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dan 2Dank
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 01:21 pm
>>>
>>>
lunchbox
Turtle on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 12:45 pm
ps. anyone that thinks this is a good idea...you are in the same intellectual camp that 2dank is in...<<<
Which leaves them a lot more intelligent than you TRUD-l
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 01:31 pm
The rest of the country isn't
The rest of the country isn't giving you guys 4 new senate seats.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 01:35 pm
>>>>>>Which leaves them a lot
>>>>>>Which leaves them a lot more intelligent than you TRUD-l
lol
I think the mong meant to type TURD-L
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 02:04 pm
i rest my case.
i rest my case.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 02:25 pm
thanks for the translation
thanks for the translation lol turd-l
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 03:55 pm
>>>because they like to feel
>>>because they like to feel a false sense of superiority<<<
Are you talking about the Philzone? Because that statement describes about 90% of everything I've ever read on the black screen.
Or maybe just Americans in general?
And I like SoCal.
(((Dodger Dogs)))
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 04:20 pm
>>>>The rest of the country
>>>>The rest of the country isn't giving you guys 4 new senate seats.
^This a hundred times over
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: The Sound of Steam and Caffeine Zooey
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 04:26 pm
LOL - never gonna happen
LOL - never gonna happen
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD ntfdaway
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 04:47 pm
I would rather we seceded
I would rather we seceded from this fucked up country. We have the money and resources.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 04:48 pm
i am making broad
i am making broad generalizations lance.
but yeah, kinda americans in general fit the bill.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GravyTrain Gravytrain
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 05:07 pm
>> We have the money and
>> We have the money and resources.
Small matter of the military to take into consideration of that idea....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dan 2Dank
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 05:15 pm
El Nino
El Nino
kxela on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 04:20 pm
>>>>The rest of the country isn't giving you guys 4 new senate seats.
^This a hundred times over
2 new republican states..... :)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 05:30 pm
you should tell your friend(s
you should tell your friend(s) and other people in your nor cal community about your conservative...cough...racist points of view...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 05:44 pm
meh
meh
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dan 2Dank
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 05:47 pm
trolling Turd is the easiest
trolling Turd is the easiest thing too do...... lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 05:48 pm
>>>2 new republican states...
>>>2 new republican states..... :)
When I firsts looked at the maps I thought that too, but nor cal would have the entire bay area and Sacramento. It would be solidly blue and the central one has LA an Santa Barbara also solidly blue. The So-Cal one might be republican with just San Diego but that isn’t a sure thing anymore either. Not like republicans are making any friends with Latinos these days.
The people who really get screwed with this plan are all the State of Jefferson idiots up here in gold country. Might be worth it just for that reason alone.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Woz Paul_woz
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 06:55 pm
That will never happen. Tim
That will never happen. Tim Draper wasting his money.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _________ Plf9905
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 07:15 pm
It Will Never Fly 3 Calis HA
It Will Never Fly 3 Calis HA HA We Are 50 States and WE Will All Die 50 States - 200 Years From Now ? Who The Hell Cares !
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 07:48 pm
Only 48 until I was 8 years
Only 48 until I was 8 years old.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 07:54 pm
>>>We Are 50 States and WE
>>>We Are 50 States and WE Will All Die 50 States
so when Puerto Rico becomes a state, we all die? That would be ironic after the hurricane.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 08:05 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 08:14 pm
That's by design:
That's by design to protect state's rights:
In the weeks before the Constitution’s framers agreed to the compromise, the delegates from the states with large populations argued that each state’s representation in the Senate should correspond to the size of the state. Large-state delegates promoted James Madison’s Virginia Plan, the document that was the basis for several of the clauses in the Constitution. Under this plan, the Senate and the House would base their membership on the same proportional “right of suffrage.” That is, the number of senators in each state would be determined by its population of free citizens and slaves. Large states, then, stood to gain the most seats in the Senate. As justification for this advantage, delegates noted that their states contributed more of the nation’s financial and defensive resources than small states, and therefore, required a greater say in government.
Small-state delegates hoped to protect states’ rights within a confederate system of government. Fearing the effects of majority rule, they demanded equal representation in Congress, as was practiced under the Articles of Confederation and assumed in William Paterson’s New Jersey Plan. In fact, some framers threatened to withdraw from the convention if a proportional representation measure passed.
Other delegates sought a compromise between large-state and small-state interests. As early as 1776, Connecticut’s Roger Sherman had suggested that Congress represent the people as well as the states. During the 1787 convention, Sherman proposed that House representation be based on the population, while in the Senate, the states would be equally represented. Benjamin Franklin agreed that each state should have an equal vote in the Senate except in matters concerning money. The convention’s grand committee reported his motion, with some modifications, to the delegates early in July. Madison led the debates against Franklin’s measure, believing it an injustice to the majority of Americans, while some small-state delegates were reluctant even to support proportional representation in the House. On July 16, delegates narrowly adopted the mixed representation plan giving states equal votes in the Senate within a federal system of government.
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Constitutio...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Thursday, June 14, 2018 – 10:28 pm
The wannabe state of
The wannabe state of Jefferson isn't going to be happy.... they've been trying to succeed at seceding for a very long time
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zebrachaser Phanatically
on Friday, June 15, 2018 – 12:01 am
is this where the trump
is this where the trump voters hang?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Friday, June 15, 2018 – 12:12 am
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zebrachaser Phanatically
on Friday, June 15, 2018 – 12:26 am
that poor bastard has hillary
that poor bastard has hillary witten all over him
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Friday, June 15, 2018 – 03:22 am
So the new Northern
So the new Northern California gets Squaw Valley, San Francisco & Toby & Jack's...that sounds like a win!