Sure, trying to steal signs by having a player on second base watching the catcher has long been a part of the game. Having your video crew watching from centerfield cameras and relaying that info to a coach on their smart watch has not. It's taking advantage of technology to gain an unfair competitive advantage. It is cheating, and the commissioner should deliver a swift and strong penalty to ensure that this type of behavior does not persist.
The Orioles just went into Fenway and swept the Faux Sox anyway, but the Boston Bunkos still need to be sanctioned.
Fake News: For decades, spying on another team has been as much a part of baseball’s gamesmanship as brushback pitches and hard slides.... modern and illicit twist... a scheme to illicitly steal hand signals ... a member of the Red Sox training staff looking at his Apple Watch in the dugout... The trainer then relayed a message to other players in the dugout, who, in turn, would signal teammates on the field about the type of pitch that was about to be thrown.
B4 I get sued 4 plagiary, all the above has been politely borrowed from a famous NY newspaper.
This sounds fun. Remember deflategate? Well everyone does it but using an apple watch 2 advance this nefarious deed? Time 4 more fun news:
The Red Sox responded in kind on Tuesday, filing a complaint against the Yankees claiming that the team uses a camera from its YES television network exclusively to steal signs during games... Commissioner Rob Manfred said “We will conduct a thorough investigation on both sides... We’re 100 percent comfortable that it is not an ongoing issue... it’s just very hard to know what the actual impact on any particular game was of an alleged violation.”
Met's even get honorable mention:
In 1997, teams accused the Mets of planting small cameras near home plate in Shea Stadium to steal signals. The Mets denied that they had used the cameras to try to do so, and the league did not take any action.
the reason theyre not being sanctioned, is every team now uses one of their own network cameras...i.e. yankees w Yes...to film and send directly to a monitor in coaches office....stealing signs is legal...stealing w technology is not....
Finally, it’s important to remember that whatever means the Red Sox used to steal the Yankees’ signs, the Yankees still had their code broken, which makes them more dupes than victims. Baseball players have communicated through hand signals since time immemorial, specifically to avoid having their messages decoded and intercepted—a hand signal is no different than any other coded message—and if those signals aren’t sophisticated enough or changed frequently enough to prevent their meaning from becoming plain, there’s only one party to blame. A front-office executive went to jail for corporate espionage last year—why should a catcher’s signals be treated with any less care than scouting reports? The use of an expensive hipster fashion bauble doesn’t mean the Red Sox were running their operation through Fort Meade; it was still just a couple of dudes and a camera.
The Yankees should know better than anyone that baseball teams will go to great lengths to gain a minute competitive edge. Maybe next time they’ll guard their own secrets better.
They already did. They know the players involved and the trainer involved. How do you think they had all of that detailed info about the smart watch and shit?
SO TO REITERATE ITS BEEN PROVEN ALREADY.
"The Yankees, who had long been suspicious of the Red Sox stealing catchers’ signs in Fenway Park, contended the video showed a member of the Red Sox training staff looking at his Apple Watch in the dugout and then relaying a message to players, who may have then been able to use the information to know the type of pitch that was going to be thrown when they were hitting, according to the people familiar with the case.
Baseball investigators corroborated the Yankees’ claims based on video the commissioner’s office uses for instant replay and broadcasts, the people said. The commissioner’s office then confronted the Red Sox, who admitted that their trainers had received signals from video replay personnel and then relayed that information to some players — an operation that had been in place for at least several weeks."
wrong again. let me guess, you're a Red Sox fan? So far you've said "try to prove it" and it has been proven now you come back with "it happens every day." Well it doesn't. This is a story because this hasn't happened before.
no, bucky , it happens every day....welcome to baseball...its a runners job, when he s on second base to steal the signs , and relay to batter...thats why a catcher changes them...lol...we re taught that in little league....
huge scandel when ya add a fitbit watch into the mix...lol
ohhh!!! it was an apple watch! ok, sure, make them forfeit 10-15 games as OP states...by all means...then all other teams forfeit same amounts....and we right back where we started....
anyone wondering why all the "buzz" on this story is on social media, and not comin from league or commisioners offices????
jelly, i totally agree...ive just been laughin how blown out of proportion this is...(again, only out of proportion on twitter, and other sites...perfectly proportioned by lge when they issued their statement)
& what's all this "We" & "Our" bullshit? Never knew so many people who actually play for the team. OK OK if you hold season tickets, I may give you a pass . . .
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 02:23 am
happens more than ya think..
happens more than ya think...they aint forfeiting any games...lol
its beliceks fault, anyway...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jelly roll Mckenna
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 09:36 am
New England..the land of
New England..the land of cheaters...its the bellichekian way..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: charmskooldropout hounder
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 11:03 am
Yeah baseball signs are so
Yeah baseball signs are so complex, how could anyone crack that code?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: scott uptown
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 11:20 am
this is not news Lol
this is not news
Lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 12:21 pm
Sure, trying to steal signs
Sure, trying to steal signs by having a player on second base watching the catcher has long been a part of the game. Having your video crew watching from centerfield cameras and relaying that info to a coach on their smart watch has not. It's taking advantage of technology to gain an unfair competitive advantage. It is cheating, and the commissioner should deliver a swift and strong penalty to ensure that this type of behavior does not persist.
The Orioles just went into Fenway and swept the Faux Sox anyway, but the Boston Bunkos still need to be sanctioned.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dave Nycdave
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 12:25 pm
Fake News: For decades,
Fake News: For decades, spying on another team has been as much a part of baseball’s gamesmanship as brushback pitches and hard slides.... modern and illicit twist... a scheme to illicitly steal hand signals ... a member of the Red Sox training staff looking at his Apple Watch in the dugout... The trainer then relayed a message to other players in the dugout, who, in turn, would signal teammates on the field about the type of pitch that was about to be thrown.
B4 I get sued 4 plagiary, all the above has been politely borrowed from a famous NY newspaper.
This sounds fun. Remember deflategate? Well everyone does it but using an apple watch 2 advance this nefarious deed? Time 4 more fun news:
The Red Sox responded in kind on Tuesday, filing a complaint against the Yankees claiming that the team uses a camera from its YES television network exclusively to steal signs during games... Commissioner Rob Manfred said “We will conduct a thorough investigation on both sides... We’re 100 percent comfortable that it is not an ongoing issue... it’s just very hard to know what the actual impact on any particular game was of an alleged violation.”
Met's even get honorable mention:
In 1997, teams accused the Mets of planting small cameras near home plate in Shea Stadium to steal signals. The Mets denied that they had used the cameras to try to do so, and the league did not take any action.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 12:30 pm
the reason theyre not being
the reason theyre not being sanctioned, is every team now uses one of their own network cameras...i.e. yankees w Yes...to film and send directly to a monitor in coaches office....stealing signs is legal...stealing w technology is not....
now...try to prove it....its just ridunkulous
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 06:59 pm
Finally, it’s important to
Finally, it’s important to remember that whatever means the Red Sox used to steal the Yankees’ signs, the Yankees still had their code broken, which makes them more dupes than victims. Baseball players have communicated through hand signals since time immemorial, specifically to avoid having their messages decoded and intercepted—a hand signal is no different than any other coded message—and if those signals aren’t sophisticated enough or changed frequently enough to prevent their meaning from becoming plain, there’s only one party to blame. A front-office executive went to jail for corporate espionage last year—why should a catcher’s signals be treated with any less care than scouting reports? The use of an expensive hipster fashion bauble doesn’t mean the Red Sox were running their operation through Fort Meade; it was still just a couple of dudes and a camera.
The Yankees should know better than anyone that baseball teams will go to great lengths to gain a minute competitive edge. Maybe next time they’ll guard their own secrets better.
https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2017/9/5/16257624/new-york-yankees-red-sox...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 08:12 pm
>>>now...try to prove it
>>>now...try to prove it
They already did. They know the players involved and the trainer involved. How do you think they had all of that detailed info about the smart watch and shit?
SO TO REITERATE ITS BEEN PROVEN ALREADY.
"The Yankees, who had long been suspicious of the Red Sox stealing catchers’ signs in Fenway Park, contended the video showed a member of the Red Sox training staff looking at his Apple Watch in the dugout and then relaying a message to players, who may have then been able to use the information to know the type of pitch that was going to be thrown when they were hitting, according to the people familiar with the case.
Baseball investigators corroborated the Yankees’ claims based on video the commissioner’s office uses for instant replay and broadcasts, the people said. The commissioner’s office then confronted the Red Sox, who admitted that their trainers had received signals from video replay personnel and then relayed that information to some players — an operation that had been in place for at least several weeks."
http://deadspin.com/report-red-sox-used-smartwatch-to-steal-signs-agains...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: hooper Hooper
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 08:22 pm
SCUMBAGS
SCUMBAGS
GO TRIBE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 08:39 pm
Lol, baseball.
Lol, baseball.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 09:08 pm
red sox have sent evidence to
red sox have sent evidence to mlb...about the YES network cameras....according to NY Daily Post....
it happens every day....not a big deal...this is no deflategate...;)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Oaksterdam Dan Nugstradamus
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 09:13 pm
Doug Fister's Mouthguard
Doug Fister's Mouthguard Mistaken as Audio Device by Yankees in MLB Complaint
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2731760-doug-fisters-mouthguard-mista...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 09:43 pm
>>>it happens every day...
>>>it happens every day....not a big deal
wrong again. let me guess, you're a Red Sox fan? So far you've said "try to prove it" and it has been proven now you come back with "it happens every day." Well it doesn't. This is a story because this hasn't happened before.
Keep moving those goal posts though!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Oaksterdam Dan Nugstradamus
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 09:56 pm
Thank god it's Patriots'
Thank god it's NE Patriot's season. Red Sox are ruining my Septembah!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 – 10:38 pm
At least they did not deflate
Geez what's next, deflate the baseball.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Thursday, September 7, 2017 – 03:36 am
no, bucky , it happens every
no, bucky , it happens every day....welcome to baseball...its a runners job, when he s on second base to steal the signs , and relay to batter...thats why a catcher changes them...lol...we re taught that in little league....
huge scandel when ya add a fitbit watch into the mix...lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: JP (J Bomb) Tatters
on Thursday, September 7, 2017 – 10:43 am
Mommy, the Red Sox are
Mommy, the Red Sox are stealing my signs. Waaaah.
Oh my goodness gracious!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV3NhT0oXzY
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Thursday, September 7, 2017 – 11:01 am
^lol, .....best of that ,
^lol, .....best of that , tatters, is that it prompted me to "best of john sterling bloopers"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sideshow Bob drkstrjry
on Thursday, September 7, 2017 – 03:01 pm
Yankees complaining about
Yankees complaining about Unfairness. LMFAO
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: FlutterBy jlp
on Friday, September 8, 2017 – 07:36 am
We still beat them 3 of 4
We still beat them 3 of 4 games the last series
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jelly roll Mckenna
on Friday, September 8, 2017 – 07:41 am
Apple Watch is a little
Apple Watch is a little different than a Fitbit...they cheated..own it...and move on..nothing but some fines r gonna happen anyway...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Friday, September 8, 2017 – 09:21 am
ohhh!!! it was an apple watch
ohhh!!! it was an apple watch! ok, sure, make them forfeit 10-15 games as OP states...by all means...then all other teams forfeit same amounts....and we right back where we started....
anyone wondering why all the "buzz" on this story is on social media, and not comin from league or commisioners offices????
jelly, i totally agree...ive just been laughin how blown out of proportion this is...(again, only out of proportion on twitter, and other sites...perfectly proportioned by lge when they issued their statement)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sideshow Bob drkstrjry
on Friday, September 8, 2017 – 01:17 pm
>>>>>>> Thank god it's NE
>>>>>>> Thank god it's NE Patriot's season.
You have no idea how Happy I was it's Patriots season last nite:
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Oaksterdam Dan Nugstradamus
on Friday, September 8, 2017 – 01:23 pm
We play our best at the end
We play our best at the end of the season.
Sun shines on every dogs ass once!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sideshow Bob drkstrjry
on Friday, September 8, 2017 – 01:25 pm
& what's all this "We" & "Our
& what's all this "We" & "Our" bullshit? Never knew so many people who actually play for the team. OK OK if you hold season tickets, I may give you a pass . . .
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Friday, September 8, 2017 – 03:30 pm
I wouldn't want to be working
I wouldn't want to be working for Belichick this week
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sideshow Bob drkstrjry
on Saturday, September 9, 2017 – 12:05 am
Wonder if Ivr & Ernie got
Wonder if Ivr & Ernie got their asses chewed out?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sideshow Bob drkstrjry
on Saturday, September 9, 2017 – 02:10 pm
Little too early for Chicken
Little too early for Chicken-Little-Ing perhaps?:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/patriots-fans-already-calling-for-ji...