Pot Cures Cancer!

 FUCK CANCER! I'm sorry this is even coming up for you, Dan. We all have friends and/or family who are trying to heal, cure or who have died. It is both a tender and fierce subject for me.

There is so much debate about the role of cannabis in curing cancer. As you know there are Zoners who are insistent about it... the evidence is anecdotal, not clinical.

Cannabis can lessen pain. Good thing to know.

Much love to you.

FUCK CANCER!

I've been thinking about you, BudBoy (especially during the recent California Kind gig).

Best to you and yours,

John

BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!!!

I have seen it work many times. 

And most if not all oncologists are scumbag pieces of shit! They should be drawn and quartered.  They knowingly poison people and ruin their bodies and lives just so big pharma can make butloads of profit. Maybe some are naive, but all are full of shit.

Mark, you have personally seen it work many times? Cannabis with or without diet changes as the sole treatment or therapy?

{ { { { BUDBOY } } } }  { { { { CANCER SUCKS } } } }  

I've seen various info regarding lab work w/ Cannabis extracts injected into lab animals,  showing reduction of tumour growth.  Also supposedly synergistic with other plant extracts;  Dandelion root  & Turmeric come to mind.

There may be documentation of 'all that' with Humans,  but I can't point the way towards any definitive studies.

I think that the last 20 +/-  years of medical Cannabis in progressive States / Countries has paved the way for research without the fear of working with illegal plants.

We are miles ahead with medical Cannabis for pain mitigation,  anti-seizure use,  appetite stimulation...  Compared to back in the 80's and '90's.

After seeing all the quacks that posted fake cures to Hep C over the years. I and only myself would not line all my chickens in a row counting on marijuana solely to cure a life taking cancer.

((((Budboy))))

Shame on you. MarkD, for saying such a thing.

I sure hope it does! Like others have said,  More scientific investigation is definitely called for.  I have seen the evil cytotoxins save someone (knock on wood 11+ years), and I have seen cannabis give great relief to my best friend. Sadly he lost his battle but the magic herb extended his life, this much I know. It is great for the symptoms and he was able to stay off of oxy and the narcotics until the very end. This was very important because he said they made him foggy and he wanted to "be there" as long as he could. So observationally I'd say do whatever you can if cancer comes to your world. A combo of future research, the herb and hope. I certainly don't want oncologists to stop trying. I hate big Pharma (oh its time released oxy, you wont get addicted) but if its proven that the herb can cure even in a few cases, they will run with it.  Double-edged sword I guess.  Oh and F that C.  healing to those that need it.

Ever hear of the endocannabinoid system? It is a main system in our bodies. It is there to utilize cannabinoids.  It was discovered in 1988.  Your md knows nothing about it. They don't teach it because big pharma has no drugs to sell you for it.

And fuck you Jaz. Ignorance is deadly.

Yes Judit, I personally have seen it work. And I have seen many die from the so called medical help they recieved fromk the industry.

If you continue to eat sugar and unhealthy foods when you are battling cancer, then probably nothing will work without destroying your body and future. Openning the door for cancer to return.( And facilitating another round of profits for the evil empire.)

Eating good healthy organic vegetables and supplements and avoiding sugars and GMO garbage will go a long way to keeping you healthy, and returning you to health afterward.  There is no magic cure, I give you that. But Cannabinoids are more effective than chemo in the long run for sure, and in the short term often. The plant is here for us. Was used extensively throughout history until bayer figured out they could put aspirin in a pill and get rich off of it.  The beginning of the end for what has worked for ages. Big pharma cannot profit from it, in fact it greatly reduces their profits. That is the only reason it is still illegal. 

Read something other than the propaganda that is paid fro by the evil ones.  Those articles above are doing what they want them to do.

Maybe you didn't smoke enough pot, Dan? 

If you're sick and dealing with Cancer, that sucks and I wish you well. I'm glad you're seeing an Oncologist and not listeing to the quacks. 

Mark, please don't tell me you're an antivaxxer too. 

I'm glad you've seen it work, Mark, but I can't discard the help so many people have gotten from oncologists and the meds they have. I can easily see using cannabis adjunctively.

The variables leading up to whether allopathic medicine helps someone are many. It's sort of like your experience with hospice being so different from mine seems to have depended on how early hospice was invited in.

ps. yelling at us about it doesn't help us (on viva) want to stay open and learn more about it and it makes it hard to discuss it.

Hey Mark, thanks for your input. Please try to remember this is a very serious issue to some.  People reading your words might interpret them to be angry or insensitive. Is that what you want?  Your beliefs are yours.

oops sorry, didnt see your post Judit

Alls I Know MJ Helps Me Immensly Fighting Chronic Pain !!  A Magical Plant !!!!!

Ask Steve Jobs how the BS holistic route to curing cancer worked. He had a curable form of pancreatic cancer. My grandma didn't have a curable form of pancreatic cancer. 

I am done. If someone wants clarification or more info or just an intelligent conversation, then send me a private message. This is obviously not the place for intelligent conversation on the matter.

Or google endocannabinoid system.

Dan, I did not read your post as saying you are now battling cancer. If so, I hope all the best for you. If you want outside help, let me know.

Sorry Nancy, but intentionally putting mercury and other toxins into your system is not a good idea.

what mercury?!

smoking pot isn't going to cure POLIO...or Hep C for that matter either.

Fuck Cancer and Fuck the antivax movement with their Fake Science 

Mark, No I not battling cancer

I started writing my post after 3 posts (before you entered thread) then smoked a joint with a friend. Then some time later posted it. 

Amsterdam & Israel are ahead of the US in medical peer review of MMJ. Israel injects it into cancer patients. THC discovered by Israel scientist. Lots of CBD research showing up in US newspapers per 420 newsletter I've been emailed for 10 years now.

Grew up near Boston worked in and out of the medical industry. Been following Dana Farber and cancer research through the business pages of the Boston Globe & Boston Herald since the early 1990's. They can cure allot of stuff IF THEY CATCH IT EARLY!

Google but use the news tab accordingly.

>>>This is obviously not the place for intelligent conversation on the matter<<<

Mark, it seems to me that you're the only one in this thread not intelligently conversing, but rather just yelling, swearing and insulting folks.

Fortunately I have not yet had to deal with cancer personally so I haven't ever delved that deeply into the subject, but I'm always interested in hearing everyone's opinions (as long as it's not just "FUCK YOU I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE ALL STUPID AND WRONG!!!"). 

>>>>Ever hear of the endocannabinoid system?

i just googled it and saw a lot of interesting material on the subject but I won't  

testify to it or post any links because I'm unqualified to discuss the topic. 

To both Dans, I'm so glad neither of you is battling, dealing or living with cancer. Any friends and loved ones who have it or had it are changed by every part of the experience, and so are we, their people. Budboy expressed most of my feelings; thanks.

One of the things that's so hard about having cancer, especially if initially diagnosed with an advanced stage (like Greg, stage 4), is navigating through possibilities, hope, promise, fears... the treatments offered by oncologists, both medical and radiological, trying to balance options of percentages of "cure" or remissions vs known side effects and the risks of procedures. It is not easy. It is fucking hard.

If I sound vague, it's because my experiences have shown me that everyone has to go through the process from diagnosis to whatever-the-outcome-is for her/himself. I am extremely fortunate that my background is in both allopathic and complementary and alternative medicines, and that my oldest friend is an MD (since retired) who loved us and was willing to shepherd us through what we went through with Greg's cancer and then PML. Having a trusted smart nurse/smart doc to help do research and get through it seems like such an important thing.

Greg smoked weed continually, but didn't use cannabis oil or decrease his sugar intake through his cancer. He was in remission for the second time when PML hit; who knows what might have happened...

The zone is always a great place to discuss anything. Tone and getting personal will destroy any thread. I've violated that last sentence in past. I'm working on that.

Good news that you're not dealing with Cancer, Dan. I read that first post completely wrong. As in "I smoke a ton of weed and I still got Cancer" - figured you just had a sick sense of humor. Oh, that's just me. 

Mark

Glad you've had good experiences with mmj and cancer. I truly mean this, but to suggest that mmj is a cure for cancer and is not being used because of the pharmaceutical companies is pretty fucked!

I understand the "lack of trust" one would have towards them.

If indeed mmj did cure cancer in fact one would have already jumped on this and become a billionaire!!!!! No doubt about it. 

good article...

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2017-04-11/israel-is...

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U.S.-based Steep Hill Labs, which opened America's first commercial cannabis lab in 2008, recently launched a joint venture with iCan, an Israeli cannabis firm. "There are very few countries where you can do clinical research involving human beings," says Jmichaele Keller, president of Steep Hill. "Israel is the epicenter of research and development not only in growing the plant and creating extracts and different products, but also on the medical and research fronts, so we knew that we really needed to be there."

The U.S. government seems to agree. The NIH has funded Mechoulam's research for the past 50 years, providing an average of $100,000 a year to study the medicinal benefits of cannabis..............................

............Right now, there are more than 110 clinical trials involving cannabis are underway in Israel, more than any other country, says Michael Dor, senior medical adviser at the Ministry of Health's medical cannabis unit......

Greens

Well then fuck me , MarkD. Not all the times I have been fucked but most I would like to think it has been a pleasurable experience on both parties or when I fucked my fist. 

I have seen modern medicine do wonders for cancer patients and I have realized pot will not save the earth and answer to all problems. I do not have a doctorate in any subject but I tremendous respect for those that do. Their input is way more valuable than mine or yours, Bro. 

I am not sorry if you are offended by my comments and really, fuck you? Please try a little harder or be more original.

Thank you Oakster for posting the link. I will check it out a little later when I get the time.

mark is a very passionate and opinionated man with lots of experience dealing with it on many close personal levels. i am not trying to speak for him here, but he can be short fused when it comes to something that hits close to home. 

sorry to all and their families. 

zoner russ could use some vibes too.

nobododys getttin' any younger.

peace.

Mark's and all others passion is deeply appreciated.

No sweat.

welcome back, T.

I don't think there is one among us who hasn't dealt with Cancer hitting close to home or worse. Yeah, people will do what they think is best. So many people are vulnerable when they're sick though and fall prey to junk science - or worse , OP had a very good point and it also made me laugh.

i got no patience for the antivaxxers and those pushing junk science over peer reviewed medical research though. 

Mark is a big boy, but it's sweet of you to come out of retirement to defend him. 

 heady vibes for all, especially those in the medical profession who are working on a cure. 

>>>Sorry Nancy, but intentionally putting mercury and other toxins into your system is not a good idea.

aaaaaaaand markd just lost any credibility on any subject ever. its like a flat earther coming into a conversation on astronomy or geology and trying to spew their crap. people who live in their own little world supported by unsubstantiated internet garbage that would not fool anybody with an ounce of sense in their heads, trying to break into a rational discussion.

are a flat earther markd?

please tell me you are a flat earther. that would make me so, so happy right now

>>>Sorry Nancy, but intentionally putting mercury and other toxins into your system is not a good idea.

Mercury Levels Still Dangerously High in Freshwater Fish

By New England Center for Investigative Reporting

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/new-england-center-for-investigative-repor...

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Study highlights mercury levels in fish

https://www.iol.co.za/mercury/world/study-highlights-mercury-levels-in-f...

First off all cancers are not alike . I had cancer and it may still be in there hiding .I had surgery and my brother had surgery and radiation .I take a cbd / thc combo chocolate every morning with Mds direction as a possible preventative . I told my docs at Stanford university off the record  .They told me off the record they are extremely interested but the powers that be are against it .Mark is passionate and has no ulterior motives a solid peaceful guy .  I know MD's that are also passionate and go to every medical conference they can on canabis . Ignorance of an emerging science is all I see from above comments .I have been  aware of the Israeli study's   .I 'm going on 12 months clear on the 15 of Sept. I believe there is something to the science time will tell . Medical Doctors and scientist's studying canabis are not the same as anti vaxers

>>>Medical Doctors and scientist's studying canabis are not the same as anti vaxers

not at all. i think there might be great potential in treating cancer with cannabis, there is some promising anecdotal evidence. i am eagerly awaiting studies and think anyone who has cancer should at least try using cannabis. if you are ok with the way it makes you feel, worst case is it helps a bit with some symptoms, makes you groggy and does nothing for the cancer. best case, it may have some effect on cancer and that would be great.

however, asserting that cannabis DOES cure cancer(not even specific kinds of cancer, just all cancer as a blanket term), and that the majority of oncologists are lying to people and poisoning them for profit, and the rest of them are just naive, while offering no evidence except claiming to have seen it and saying the words "endocannabinoid system" is the same as anti vaxers. 

pseudoscience is one of the hallmarks of the cannabis community and cannabis industry. every day, in the business you are surrounded by people who believe in the flat earth, homeopathy, anti-vax, sovereign citizen theory, astrology, magic crystals, literal interpretations of shamanism, alkaline water BS, etc etc etc. its all the same...the idea that anyone who offers evidence contrary to what you think sounds cool to believe in is somehow beholden to "the corporations" and is lying to you in some grand conspiracy.

the same kind of thinking as left wing college students protesting speakers whom they disagree with and attempting to silence other points of view. its the head in the sand, fingers in your ears "la la la i cant hear you" kinda bullshit.

I apologize to those I offended. Especially Jaz. That was totally un called for. I am ashamed of myself.

I have been dealing with this for 6 yrs now. Every day. I do a great deal of research.

I have a ridiculously short temper and Dan's post just set me off. No excuse.

I never said pot cures all cancers all the time. But to say that it never does is erroneous. I know that chemo and the western methods can and often do kill you. I know that big pharma is making unbelievable profits from chemo(in the billions).

I know that I am in the minority on this. For now.

I am aware of much of the work being done in Israel. They and Spain and I believe Portugal are far ahead of us in research and development. They are not controlled by big pharma.

Eat healthy and cut out refined sugar. Get regular exercise and avoid toxins whenever possible. 

Peace

Love you, Mark. Thanks.

All good. We all have bigger fish to fry in real world.

Right on man. Hope it didn't seem like I was piling on. And Im a pretty big believer in the powers of the herb.  Sometimes I wish we could pass one around in this place!

Well they may not have fully figured out how to cure cancer with it yet, but it does seem to prevent Alzheimer's:

https://www.sciencealert.com/marijuana-compound-removes-toxic-alzheimer-...