Yea, this thing is working great and doesn't need to be replaced....
Iowa may be without individual health plans if insurer pulls out
DES MOINES — Tens of thousands of individual health policy consumers in Iowa could be left with no health insurance options if the last carrier for most of the state stops selling such policies, as it suggested Wednesday.
Medica, a Minnesota-based health insurer, released a statement suggesting it was close to following two larger carriers in deciding not to sell such policies in Iowa for 2018, because of instability in the market.
“Without swift action by the state or Congress to provide stability to Iowa’s individual insurance market, Medica will not be able to serve the citizens of Iowa in the manner and breadth that we do today. We are examining the potential of limited offerings, but our ability to stay in the Iowa insurance market in any capacity is in question at this point,” the company’s statement said.
And a little reality check for the "pre existing conditions" crowd...
Prior to ObamaCare, 90% of people with a pre existing condition were already covered through a government or employer health care plan. The remaining 10% were people who were purchasing their own plans independently. There was a three year transition window as ObamaCare was phased in that allowed those people to use government subsidies to cover that expense during the transition period. Over that three year period less than 115,000 people applied for this funding, a miniscule number in the scheme of things. So the entire "pre existing condition" scare is just another straw man set up by the progressive left that wants a single payer system (which might actually work for basic coverage BTW, but that's not what the left will go for; they want it all) and will fight any changes to a system that is obviously failing miserably.
>>> Prior to ObamaCare, 90% of people with a pre existing condition were already covered through a government or employer health care plan. The remaining 10% were people who were purchasing their own plans independently.
100% were covered? I wonder where the "research Librarian" plagiarized that idiotic statistic from?
>>>>>>single payer system (which might actually work for basic coverage BTW, but that's not what the left will go for; they want it all) and will fight any changes to a system that is obviously failing miserably.
I'll be curious to see if this starts to gain some real traction over the next few months, years, etc.
FUCK YOU GOP.
There is a special place in hell for all these shit bags passing legislation without even reading it.
Trump clearly doesn't know how to read - he's so fuckin' stupid and so are you if you agree with this short-sited vote.
YAY! Let's get this Trumpcare going - and fast. Before the Mid term elections, please. Maybe when the Republican voters realize that they're getting screwed, they might vote for better representation?
They know it won't get through the Senate but they are able to claim that they succeeded in passing a repeal, and can blame the Democrats for killing it in the Senate.
It is opposed by virtually every patient advocacy group and everyone in the health care industry.
Congress is still exempted from the new rules that allow states to waive essential benefits.
It raises premiums dramatically for older people.
It removes Obamacare's protection against being turned down for a pre-existing condition.
It would steadily gut Medicaid spending for the very poorest.
It removes coverage from at least 24 million people, probably more.
It slashes taxes on the rich by about a trillion dollars over ten years.
-Kevin Drum
Trump entered the presidency with the only kind of power that matters. He didn't owe Wall Street a thing. He didn't owe anyone -- not donors, lobbyists nor any political party. What he had was the people, passionately on his side.
But as soon as he got into office, Trump started giving away his miraculous, unprecedented power. Hey, Wall Street! Even though you didn't give me any money, is it too late to be your friend?
I can't explain why the GOP does anything. I suspect they are celebrating because they finally got something passed in the House, even though it will die there and it will very likely cost them in the mid-term elections.
Democrats mocked Republicans from the House floor Thursday after GOP representatives voted to pass the American Health Care Act by chanting "na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye," at their counterparts.
The chant appeared to be in reference to Democrats' belief that a vote for the AHCA, the Republican proposal to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, would result in many of the Republican representatives being voted out of office next year.
Wasn't it just 3-4 weeks ago when Paul Ryan stepped to the podium and said "Unfortunately, Obamacare is the law of the land for the foreseeable future".
Did the Republicans basically just make a few changes to the initial bill and cram it through for another vote?
I admit I've been a little checked out on this topic as I'm fortunate enough to have great healthcare coverage though my employer. They pay 90% of my premium; leaving me with a $150 cost a month for health/dental for my daughter and I. Totally reasonable cost.
I did start paying more attention several months back and, I gotta say, I'm pretty appalled at how this thing is playing out. I think, in general, it speaks volumes to one's character how they treat the sick, weak and incapable.
You might think Obamacare would violate my generally conservative principles, but ...
If any European conservative party were to propose such a system, it would be pilloried as a far-right plot. And yet the Republican Party opposed it with a passion that became very hard for me to disentangle from hatred of Obama himself.
The Trump GOP’s attempt to abolish it is therefore, to my mind, neither conservative nor decent. It’s reactionary and callous. Its effective abandonment of 95 percent of us with preexisting conditions will strike real terror in a lot of people’s hearts. Its gutting of Medicaid will force millions of the poor to lose health care almost altogether. It will bankrupt the struggling members of the working and middle classes who find themselves in a serious health crisis....
Zooey and Hoover, thanks, your latest posts had just what I needed.
Nor do they diagnose many (esp.chronic) diseases, shuffle. They refer after dealing with the acute situation, and the care that the uninsured get at some of the offices they end up at is sub-standard. The whole thing sucks.
I'll sum up the fact check. Under the current bill Congress passed that the Senate is throwing out, you may be denied coverage for preexisting conditions if that's what your State decides, and if your State does cover them you'll just pay way more.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond
Fuck Hillary! Fuck the
Fuck Hillary! Fuck the corrupt DNC! Amirite!?!?!?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D
Keep the calendar open for a
Keep the calendar open for a protest march?
I heard that the charter busses are waiting outside the capitol to take the Repubs out to party.
Congratulations Americans!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb
217 Republican
217 Republican representatives have voted for a bill that will never become a law just so they could kiss Trump's ass.
Ryan and McCarthy are a disgrace.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
Deja Vu
Deja Vu
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fountain Jam
^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^
Obamacare
"Passes in the House. Not a single Republican "Yea" vote. Ugly."
A few years back.
YAY Divided America! way to go Fauxbama!!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bluelight
Well put CB.
Well put CB.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq
Pigs.
Pigs.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius
"Not a single Democratic "Yea
"Not a single Democratic "Yea" vote. Ugly."
Yes, I well recall the outrage that not a single Republican voted for ObamaCare as well.
"Keep the calendar open for a protest march?"
Yea, that's working great. Keep up the effort.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water
https://twitter.com
https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/860162852614803456
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D
Thom, you gotta admit that
Thom, you gotta admit that many GOP Reps took a lot of shit at their townhall meetings over health care.
We'll have to see how some of those voters in red districts feel about this situation, come 2018.
If both Trump and Pence get impeached after the mid-terms, we may potentially have Nancy Pelosi as our next POTUS.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger
Seriously, what did
Seriously, what did protesting ever do for our country? Well put Thom
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb
They are keeping Obamacare
They are keeping Obamacare for themselves and their staffs.
They really suck.
https://thinkprogress.org/gop-lawmakers-exempt-trumpcare-hardships-8f7f8...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D
BTW: Protest Marches in the
BTW: Protest Marches in the Bay Area have been good fun. Kinda like a Dead Show, but no music and a hell of a lot cheaper.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water
https://twitter.com/davidfrum
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/860201152805298179
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water
Context for the Graham (R)
Context for the Graham (R) and Frum (R) tweets above:
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/860185724943052800
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb
Jeez, they're having a party
Jeez, they're having a party now in the rose garden.
Lots of white guys in suits.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius
Yea, this thing is working
Yea, this thing is working great and doesn't need to be replaced....
Iowa may be without individual health plans if insurer pulls out
DES MOINES — Tens of thousands of individual health policy consumers in Iowa could be left with no health insurance options if the last carrier for most of the state stops selling such policies, as it suggested Wednesday.
Medica, a Minnesota-based health insurer, released a statement suggesting it was close to following two larger carriers in deciding not to sell such policies in Iowa for 2018, because of instability in the market.
“Without swift action by the state or Congress to provide stability to Iowa’s individual insurance market, Medica will not be able to serve the citizens of Iowa in the manner and breadth that we do today. We are examining the potential of limited offerings, but our ability to stay in the Iowa insurance market in any capacity is in question at this point,” the company’s statement said.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/05/03/iowa-health-in...
And a little reality check for the "pre existing conditions" crowd...
Prior to ObamaCare, 90% of people with a pre existing condition were already covered through a government or employer health care plan. The remaining 10% were people who were purchasing their own plans independently. There was a three year transition window as ObamaCare was phased in that allowed those people to use government subsidies to cover that expense during the transition period. Over that three year period less than 115,000 people applied for this funding, a miniscule number in the scheme of things. So the entire "pre existing condition" scare is just another straw man set up by the progressive left that wants a single payer system (which might actually work for basic coverage BTW, but that's not what the left will go for; they want it all) and will fight any changes to a system that is obviously failing miserably.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water
^^^ Trillion-dollar tax cut
^^^ Trillion-dollar tax cut for the 1% = party time! ^^^
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
^funny. I wonder if Trump
^funny. I wonder if Trump understands that it still needs to pass the Senate.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water
>>> Prior to ObamaCare, 90%
>>> Prior to ObamaCare, 90% of people with a pre existing condition were already covered through a government or employer health care plan. The remaining 10% were people who were purchasing their own plans independently.
100% were covered? I wonder where the "research Librarian" plagiarized that idiotic statistic from?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zzzzzz
>>>100% were covered?
>>>100% were covered?
Exactly. Everyone had healthcare. Life was good. lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune
do republicans have children
do republicans have children and families too?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond
Talk about ignorance.
Talk about ignorance.
It's astounding.
Fuck Hillary!! Amirite!?!?!?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day
>>>>Yea, this thing is
>>>>Yea, this thing is working great and doesn't need to be replaced....
Why aren't Republicans talking about the virtues of the awesome bill they just passed? All they're doing is talking shit about Obama are still.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune
just came up with something
just came up with something they "jotted down" last week.
hope your kids don't need medical attention thom.
jonas, take a xanax
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline
What alternate universe does
What alternate universe does Thom live in?
Oh, that's right. The warm fuzzy cocoon of academia, the kind
he likes to scorn liberals about.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D
>>>>>>single payer system
>>>>>>single payer system (which might actually work for basic coverage BTW, but that's not what the left will go for; they want it all) and will fight any changes to a system that is obviously failing miserably.
I'll be curious to see if this starts to gain some real traction over the next few months, years, etc.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond
>jonas, take a xanax
>jonas, take a xanax
I'm not a pill guy. Have at it.
But yeah. Good job. Trump's the best!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Painted Mandolin
FUCK YOU GOP.
FUCK YOU GOP.
There is a special place in hell for all these shit bags passing legislation without even reading it.
Trump clearly doesn't know how to read - he's so fuckin' stupid and so are you if you agree with this short-sited vote.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger
If God wanted us ALL to be
If God wanted us ALL to be healthy, He would have put "the pursuit of HEALTHINESS" in the constitution. Yet He did not.
There you go.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Painted Mandolin
The likelihood of this
The likelihood of this passing in the Senate is negligible.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/05/04/republican-senators-admit-republi...
NAME AND SHAME THE GOP DOUCHEBAGS that Voted for this:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/04/us/politics/house-vote-re...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smokestack
old folks and sick people are
old folks and sick people are fucked
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face
YAY! Let's get this Trumpcare
YAY! Let's get this Trumpcare going - and fast. Before the Mid term elections, please. Maybe when the Republican voters realize that they're getting screwed, they might vote for better representation?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Painted Mandolin
No one is fucked unless the
No one is fucked unless the Senate passes this utterly crappy bill....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face
Oh, we are all fucked.
Oh, we are all fucked.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ________
A friend of mine told me if
A friend of mine told me if you can't afford health care then you should die.
Fact
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face
Can you afford health care,
Can you afford health care, Heybro?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: The Sound of Steam and Caffeine
This bill is already DOA.
This bill is already DOA.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-gop-to-snub-house-obamacar...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face
So why are GOP celebrating at
So why are GOP celebrating at the White House?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ________
>So why are GOP celebrating
>So why are GOP celebrating at the White House?
because the media is fake
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face
Huh? Are you saying that the
Huh? What exactly is FAKE? Are you saying that the GOP didn't take buses over to the White House to pound beer and celebrate?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
>So why are GOP celebrating
>So why are GOP celebrating at the White House?
They know it won't get through the Senate but they are able to claim that they succeeded in passing a repeal, and can blame the Democrats for killing it in the Senate.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq
No score from the CBO, no one
No score from the CBO, no one knows what is in there or how much it costs.
Throwning 25 million off coverage, returning to preexisting conditions.
Part of funding the Trump tax cut for him and his billionaire friends.
Pigs.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino
There have been no public
-Kevin Drum
Trump entered the presidency with the only kind of power that matters. He didn't owe Wall Street a thing. He didn't owe anyone -- not donors, lobbyists nor any political party. What he had was the people, passionately on his side.
But as soon as he got into office, Trump started giving away his miraculous, unprecedented power. Hey, Wall Street! Even though you didn't give me any money, is it too late to be your friend?
-Ann Coulter
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People need to vote fact
People need to vote
fact
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: The Sound of Steam and Caffeine
I can't explain why the GOP
I can't explain why the GOP does anything. I suspect they are celebrating because they finally got something passed in the House, even though it will die there and it will very likely cost them in the mid-term elections.
Pigs. Idiots, too.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: The Sound of Steam and Caffeine
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-chant-hey-hey-hey-goodb...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face
Just so long as they didn't
Just so long as they didn't laugh at the GOP. Jeff Sessions has zero tolerance for laughter.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq
...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq
People with pre-existing
People with pre-existing mental health conditions have access to firearms but not healthcare.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: The Sound of Steam and Caffeine
Video of the na-na-na-na ...
Video of the na-na-na-na ... goodbye
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/05/04/every-repub...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Highnote
I'm so tired of all the
I'm so tired of all the winning.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zzzzzz
Blech. politics are awful.
Blech. politics are awful. both parties should be embarrassed.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay
A simple question:
A simple question:
Wasn't it just 3-4 weeks ago when Paul Ryan stepped to the podium and said "Unfortunately, Obamacare is the law of the land for the foreseeable future".
Did the Republicans basically just make a few changes to the initial bill and cram it through for another vote?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High
Yeah, they made it a little
Yeah, they made it a little worse.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay
>.<
>.<
I admit I've been a little checked out on this topic as I'm fortunate enough to have great healthcare coverage though my employer. They pay 90% of my premium; leaving me with a $150 cost a month for health/dental for my daughter and I. Totally reasonable cost.
I did start paying more attention several months back and, I gotta say, I'm pretty appalled at how this thing is playing out. I think, in general, it speaks volumes to one's character how they treat the sick, weak and incapable.
::Shakes head, repeatedly shamey fingering::
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High
>>>>>as I'm fortunate enough
>>>>>as I'm fortunate enough to have great healthcare coverage though my employer
The bill allows employers to stop offering insurance.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay
>>>The bill allows employers
>>>The bill allows employers to stop offering insurance.
That's fucked.
I don't think the Senate will go for it, though. Hopefully Senate shuts it down.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine
Ayn Rand took aid when she
Ayn Rand took aid when she needed it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay
Atlas Shrugged
Atlas Shrugged
::Shrugs shoulders::
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _
>> The bill allows employers
>> The bill allows employers to stop offering insurance.
So did ACA???
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Painted Mandolin
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water
Andrew Sullivan: http:/
Andrew Sullivan: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/trumpcare-destroys-notion-that-gop-gives-a-damn.html
...
You might think Obamacare would violate my generally conservative principles, but ...
If any European conservative party were to propose such a system, it would be pilloried as a far-right plot. And yet the Republican Party opposed it with a passion that became very hard for me to disentangle from hatred of Obama himself.
The Trump GOP’s attempt to abolish it is therefore, to my mind, neither conservative nor decent. It’s reactionary and callous. Its effective abandonment of 95 percent of us with preexisting conditions will strike real terror in a lot of people’s hearts. Its gutting of Medicaid will force millions of the poor to lose health care almost altogether. It will bankrupt the struggling members of the working and middle classes who find themselves in a serious health crisis....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq
Make them pay on election day
Make them pay on election day.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: The Sound of Steam and Caffeine
This is great:
This is great:
https://medium.com/@kendralubalin/troubled-wisconsin-man-goes-on-50-stat...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day
The replacement is www
The replacement is www.gofundme.com
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb
Nobody dies because they don
Nobody dies because they don't have access to healthcare.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/article149013339.html
Last I heard they don't treat cancer in the ER.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
Zooey and Hoover, thanks, I
Zooey and Hoover, thanks, your latest posts had just what I needed.
Nor do they diagnose many (esp.chronic) diseases, shuffle. They refer after dealing with the acute situation, and the care that the uninsured get at some of the offices they end up at is sub-standard. The whole thing sucks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: RIK
https://www.factcheck.org
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/05/preexisting-conditions-debate/
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day
I'll sum up the fact check.
I'll sum up the fact check. Under the current bill Congress passed that the Senate is throwing out, you may be denied coverage for preexisting conditions if that's what your State decides, and if your State does cover them you'll just pay way more.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
And to add to that: it cots
And to add to that: it cots $250,000,000,000 in Medicare funding, which allows a massive tax cut for the top 1%.