Our good friends who grew up In the east bay and are living in El Cerrito currently just made a trek back east here on a scouting mission to get out of CA. They are over the traffic and type As and the insane housing market. they currently own, but are looking at coming this way for an upgrade in time, money and lifestyle.
>>>but are looking at coming this way for an upgrade in time, money and lifestyle.
2 out of three ain't bad, but I'll never see living in extreme heat/humidity as well as what I consider real cold as "upgrades" to my lifestyle, so I'm hoping I can continue to sustain my present situation.
They can "up" their lifestyle by leveraging what they currently have in CA, trading a small nondescript El Cerrito bungalow for a larger home with a yard walkable to a thriving downtown center. They were complaining about the heat a day before Easter!!! ha.
Wasnt making a value judgement on CA.
I have a big piece of my heart in your state and would live there in a hot minute if could afford it.
I hear that about the 'upgrades', Goodlight, it sometimes seems loco to stay here. And being from the South originally, I really miss a lot of the culture as well, but all these years in CA has made me soft... at this point I want to retire part time here and part time in Hawaii.lol
I live in SF.
I work for the city.
I own a home and pay a mortgage.
I pay an out of state tuition for my kid who's at college in Eugene.
My income is far from meeting my expenses.
It keeps me from regularly hanging at TXR.
We are, Ender. I'd also add that the police bust upwardly mobile professionals and down home hippie kids equally for smoking pot, too. That legalization shit is just a ruse to feed the hungry prison industrial complex. Y'all ever heard of Canyon City?
Come to Denver, go to jail forever. For real.
>>Mark, it's no use, the Bay Area hordes are on their way there as we speak
Sf/ Bay Area is one of the most beautiful cities and places in the world
but it's just incredible how expensive it is to live there. Gotta be making some serious bread. The gf was offered 73k/ year in Palo Alto for a teaching job. Had to turn it down. 2400/month rent anywhere with 45 mins from Pali alto for a decent one bedroom. Being that we live in NJ as well we had to decide against it. :(
I'm glad I had a few years in SF back in the 70's when it was cheap. My $230 two bedroom flat on Delmar Street probably goes for over $3,500 these days. At one time we had five musicians living in a house up on Crestmont Drive overlooking the entire Sunset District with beautiful views of the ocean. I can't imagine wheat that place would cost now.
in the late 80's/early 90's, you could buy a decent place here with less than a $30K down payment... and if you didn't refinance along the way to pay for toys (boats, rv's), or lose half in a divorce, you would have close to a million in equity by now.
So many of those who did buy in back then are fairly set now. The people who are really feeling the squeeze are those who got stuck renting all those years as well as the current crop of yoots who don't have the necessary degrees and/or skill sets to land the high paying jobs at places like Google and Apple... obviously it's those types of jobs along with an influx of foreign (Chinese) investors that have driven the housing market through the roof.
We get a lot of Bay Area refugees up here, which in turn, has driven up the local housing prices, but nothing like it is down there. There is a house across the street from us that went on the market yesterday. Its a small fixer, upper and is probably the only house under $300k for sale in our rapidly gentrified neighborhood of North Portland. There must have been 120 people or more coming by yesterday and am sure there are already multiple offers on the place after only one day on the market.
We also get a lot of folks who sold their modest homes in Palo Alto and the likes and are able to retire and purchase mansions in the West Hills up here.
I know numerous families that have moved up here to Portland because $1.5M gets you a hell of a lot more in this city than the Bay area. And I know a few that commute from Portland to the Bay Area for work. However, most of them had no idea how much it really rains up here over the winter, (we have had one of the wettest, rainiest winters on record). So I find it quite ironic when these recent California transplants complain about the weather. Go ahead and drive my property value up... just please learn to drive like a normal person. Damn.
The Bay Area, by far is one of the most expensive places to live in the country. My company is giving up most of its space in downtown SF on California Street and those jobs that will not move to Tempe, AZ will be based in the ever so slightly less expensive Clorox Building in downtown Oakland.
Not much less expensive is where we currently reside in Westchester County. Add in the high NY property taxes and you're not living the high life on easy street.
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What is it for Mississippi
What is it for Mississippi and New Mexico?
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and people are bailing...
and people are bailing...
"Movement of Bay Area residents to more affordable metro areas dominated the nation's migration patterns in the first quarter," the report states."
http://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/Bay-Area-housing-expensive-costs-migration-leaving-11098941.php
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I liked the good old days
I liked the good old days when we were DINKs (double income, no kids).
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Humble brag...
Humble brag.
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>> What is it for Mississippi
>> What is it for Mississippi and New Mexico?
It's by county, not state. The calculator is here:
https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/il/il2017/select_Geography.odn
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Sorry this is the link: https
Sorry this is the link: https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/fmr/fmrs/FY2017_code/select_Geog...
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Thanks.
Thanks.
$36,500 is considered the limit for "low income" for a family of four in Issaquena County, Mississippi.
$41,850 is considered the limit for "low income" for a family of four in McKinley County, New Mexico.
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Our good friends who grew up
Our good friends who grew up In the east bay and are living in El Cerrito currently just made a trek back east here on a scouting mission to get out of CA. They are over the traffic and type As and the insane housing market. they currently own, but are looking at coming this way for an upgrade in time, money and lifestyle.
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>>>but are looking at coming
>>>but are looking at coming this way for an upgrade in time, money and lifestyle.
2 out of three ain't bad, but I'll never see living in extreme heat/humidity as well as what I consider real cold as "upgrades" to my lifestyle, so I'm hoping I can continue to sustain my present situation.
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oh, I was speaking from their
oh, I was speaking from their perspective, Hall.
They can "up" their lifestyle by leveraging what they currently have in CA, trading a small nondescript El Cerrito bungalow for a larger home with a yard walkable to a thriving downtown center. They were complaining about the heat a day before Easter!!! ha.
Wasnt making a value judgement on CA.
I have a big piece of my heart in your state and would live there in a hot minute if could afford it.
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Denver is a crime ridden
Denver is a crime ridden shithole full of snow and random, senseless murder.
I just wanted to add that to the thread.
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We know
We know
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I hear that, Goodlight, and
I hear that about the 'upgrades', Goodlight, it sometimes seems loco to stay here. And being from the South originally, I really miss a lot of the culture as well, but all these years in CA has made me soft... at this point I want to retire part time here and part time in Hawaii.lol
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> I'll never see living in
> I'll never see living in extreme heat/humidity as well as what I consider real cold as "upgrades" to my lifestyle
I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that I would much rather be poor in CA.
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Tell me about it....
Tell me about it....
I live in SF.
I work for the city.
I own a home and pay a mortgage.
I pay an out of state tuition for my kid who's at college in Eugene.
My income is far from meeting my expenses.
It keeps me from regularly hanging at TXR.
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Mark, the Bay Area hordes are
Mark, it's no use, the Bay Area hordes are on their way there as we speak...
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A $ 20 Aint Worth CRAP Now
A $ 20 Aint Worth CRAP Now !!
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I clean pools :(
I clean pools :(
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Mark, you trying to keep the
Mark, you trying to keep the population of Denver down? If yes, well played.
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I visited Denver once. Your
I visited Denver once. Your yellow traffic lights change to red after 0.5 seconds. It's like you guys were trying to generate car accidents.
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We are, Ender. I'd also add
We are, Ender. I'd also add that the police bust upwardly mobile professionals and down home hippie kids equally for smoking pot, too. That legalization shit is just a ruse to feed the hungry prison industrial complex. Y'all ever heard of Canyon City?
Come to Denver, go to jail forever. For real.
>>Mark, it's no use, the Bay Area hordes are on their way there as we speak
I know, man. :(
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SF people are quickly fucking
SF people are quickly fucking up the housing market and culture of Sacto. Keep it janky.
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Locu$ts
LoCU$Ts
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the median hme value in my
the median home value in my town is like $860k.....
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^^^^ It's A Crime T !
^^^^ It's A Crime T !
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According to Zillow, the
According to Zillow, the median home price where I live is $3,040.800.
I think in reality it's about 1.5 million. Out of control.
No, I don't own a home here.
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>> piece of my heart in your
>> piece of my heart in your state and would live there in a hot minute if could afford it.
And there it is. Oldest story around.
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Stock market is up 3 trillion
Stock market is up 3 trillion in 100 days
pool cleaners make the same they did last year
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Sf/ Bay Area is one of the
Sf/ Bay Area is one of the most beautiful cities and places in the world
but it's just incredible how expensive it is to live there. Gotta be making some serious bread. The gf was offered 73k/ year in Palo Alto for a teaching job. Had to turn it down. 2400/month rent anywhere with 45 mins from Pali alto for a decent one bedroom. Being that we live in NJ as well we had to decide against it. :(
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I'm glad I had a few years in
I'm glad I had a few years in SF back in the 70's when it was cheap. My $230 two bedroom flat on Delmar Street probably goes for over $3,500 these days. At one time we had five musicians living in a house up on Crestmont Drive overlooking the entire Sunset District with beautiful views of the ocean. I can't imagine wheat that place would cost now.
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six figures a year now
Six figures a year now considered low income...in California.
Heat and humidity are just awful - but $750,000 for a starter home is fine and dandy. lol
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^yeah really. fucking insane.
^yeah really. fucking insane.
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that's it. state closed.
that's it. state closed. everyone go home.
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^jersey already has too many
^jersey already has too many people man.
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If you make 6 figures in Dane
If you make 6 figures in Dane County, WI, you're a millionaire. So there's that.
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in the late 80's/early 90's,
in the late 80's/early 90's, you could buy a decent place here with less than a $30K down payment... and if you didn't refinance along the way to pay for toys (boats, rv's), or lose half in a divorce, you would have close to a million in equity by now.
So many of those who did buy in back then are fairly set now. The people who are really feeling the squeeze are those who got stuck renting all those years as well as the current crop of yoots who don't have the necessary degrees and/or skill sets to land the high paying jobs at places like Google and Apple... obviously it's those types of jobs along with an influx of foreign (Chinese) investors that have driven the housing market through the roof.
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Alexandra Pelosi has a pretty
Alexandra Pelosi has a pretty good newish little documentary called San Francisco 2.0 addressing exactly that stuff, Hall.
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We get a lot of Bay Area
We get a lot of Bay Area refugees up here, which in turn, has driven up the local housing prices, but nothing like it is down there. There is a house across the street from us that went on the market yesterday. Its a small fixer, upper and is probably the only house under $300k for sale in our rapidly gentrified neighborhood of North Portland. There must have been 120 people or more coming by yesterday and am sure there are already multiple offers on the place after only one day on the market.
We also get a lot of folks who sold their modest homes in Palo Alto and the likes and are able to retire and purchase mansions in the West Hills up here.
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Thanks, 73, I'll check that
Thanks, 73, I'll check that out.
>>>rapidly gentrified neighborhood of North Portland
Baring a world wide financial meltdown or some other "disaster", I see prices getting out of control all up and down the West Coast.
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I know numerous families that
I know numerous families that have moved up here to Portland because $1.5M gets you a hell of a lot more in this city than the Bay area. And I know a few that commute from Portland to the Bay Area for work. However, most of them had no idea how much it really rains up here over the winter, (we have had one of the wettest, rainiest winters on record). So I find it quite ironic when these recent California transplants complain about the weather. Go ahead and drive my property value up... just please learn to drive like a normal person. Damn.
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#immigrationissues
#immigrationissues
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The Bay Area, by far is one
The Bay Area, by far is one of the most expensive places to live in the country. My company is giving up most of its space in downtown SF on California Street and those jobs that will not move to Tempe, AZ will be based in the ever so slightly less expensive Clorox Building in downtown Oakland.
Not much less expensive is where we currently reside in Westchester County. Add in the high NY property taxes and you're not living the high life on easy street.