If you actually believe that Trump or Bannon are actively encouraging any of this it says a lot more about you then it does about them.
The current leadership of the Democrat Party is more anti-Semetic than Trump or his administration will ever be. You might want to delve into the history of Keith Ellison (former supporter of Louis Farrakhan who was almost elected DNC chair and was appointed Deputy DNC Chair as soon as Perez was elected) as well as Linda Sarsour (an organizer of the Trump protests of 1/21/17 whose support for Palestinian mass murderers of Jews and open calls for Israel’s destruction have been ongoing for more than a decade) and Rasmea Yousef Odeh (a major organizer of next months Women's Strike who in 1970 participated in bombings in Israel, one of which resulted in the killing of two Israeli students). In 2004, she became a U.S. citizen after concealing her terrorist background, answering “No” to questions in the naturalization questionnaire regarding whether she had “EVER” been arrested, charged, convicted or imprisoned. In 2014, ten years after becoming a U.S. citizen based on false pretenses, she was convicted for unlawful procurement of naturalization. But of course in Obama World that didn't justify her expulsion from this country.
So spare me your fantasies about the anti-Semitism that is supposedly rife in the current administration and clean up your own house.
only made the local news? But now this type of activity is plastered across every national headline so dupes like you will fall for the leftist party line.
Oh, I see Thom. and Trump's close advisor Bannon from Breitbart isn't anti-semetic either. Hitler was nice guy as well.
No worries, daughter Ivanka will prepare a statement for her Daddy to read while giving a wink and nod to all of the White Supremacists he surrounds himself with.
East Coast gets all the best anti-semitic threats.
(Actually the Anti-defamation League SF Office was under a bomb threat last night resulting in Market Street getting shut down between 5th and 7th Streets....)
Wow that argument is so stupid I’m kind of speechless. Let’s see the reason it didn’t make the news was because it was an isolated incident not part of a wave of antisemitism that coincidentally started after a new President is elected who has not one, but two openly anti-Semitic people as top advisors. One of whom is the publisher of the leading anti-Semitic news outlet in the country.
Please don’t equate anti-Israel with antisemitism. It’s an old tired argument.
I know I’m not supposed to be condescending to Republicans when an arguing because it makes you fill all bad inside. So here is my deal. Stop voting in fucking idiots to run the country and I’ll stop being condescending. We barely survived the last one, and this one is going to ruin everything in eight months instead of eight years.
My family has an ancient cemetery out in the woods in GA. From time to time there is vandalism. Not nice but not a conspiracy from an organized hate group(s).
>> Stop voting in fucking idiots to run the country and I’ll stop being condescending.
Which Republican candidate did you prefer?
Romney, Bush I, McCain, Rubio, Tim Pawlenty, Jon Huntsman, Chris Christie, John Kaisich, Jeb Bush, George Pataki just to name a few, but they all had a fatal flaw. They aren't bat shit crazy
>>But now this type of activity is plastered across every national headline so dupes like you will fall for the leftist party line.<<
That is because it has happened multiple times, in multiple cities and towns, you dolt.
Thom it is because white nationalists feel emboldened by Trump's win and by the appointment of the mouthpiece for white nationalism, Steve Bannon, to the national security council.
Thom, will you finally comment about Bannon and his ties to white nationalism?
Or are you going to scurry away like a cockroach again?
I do believe that Bannon has never made a statement that could be considered anti-semetic. I know, it sucks to say, but it's true.
Guys like Bannon and Trump are just pro-America, to a fault. It leads to a progression: pro-America > nationalist > racist
Now, Bannon and Trump aren't proven racists, but the racists have latched on to their pro-America spiel and have taken it to the next level. Unless Trump takes a very direct and hard line against them, they will continue to be emboldened. You can't really blame Trump/Bannon for the acts ad thoughts of others, but they can be blamed for not standing up to it.
Bannon's wife has reported that when they were looking at private schools for their child he wanted to know what's with Hanukah books Hanukah books in the library and objected to a school with what he thought were too many Jews cause he doesn't like the way Jews raise their kids. Also, when you openly admit to being the empowering voice for neo-nazi america, maybe you have some responsibility to put the kibosh on those people who you may have empowered when they seem to be coordinating against jewish institutions. Same as threats against mosques, also on the rise but doesn't seem as coordinated. Although, currently, I think Islamophobia "trumps" anti-semitism in the white house at the moment, you can't raise a group of people to be "alt-right" and then just proceed to ignore white power activities. Unless of course you actually want to continue empowering them, which I think Bannon does, as part of his chaos and fear campaign.
Has the administration expressed some concern with the "Get out of our country" ant-immigrant shooting in Kansas City?
President Donald Trump told Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro that bomb threats at Jewish Community Centers may have been from “the reverse” to try to “make others look bad,” Shapiro said today.
When a reporter asked Shapiro if he took this to mean that Trump was implying his supporters were being framed, he responded that he can’t be sure what the president meant but that “he used the word ‘reverse’ I would say two to three times in his comments.”
“I really don’t know what he means,” Shapiro said, “and I don’t know why he said that.”
>>>>our local JCC was threatened as well as about 20 around the country on the same day.
Rise of white power groups over the last several years. Just happens that Bannon was running a white power empowerment website during that time. All they needed was a little encouragement.
Hate groups are now empowered, and they believe that they are also mainstream.
Soon enough they will unknowingly but directly threaten Trump's grandkids, daughter, son in law and his family, who are Orthodox. We will then see what Trump is really made of. Will he even step to the plate for his own family? He won't do it for average citizens.
To be fair, I'm sure the Kushners are pretty unhappy about the threats and such and would like to discourage it. However, I'm sure Grima Wormtongue has made it clear to Trump that he shouldn't be seen as in any way having any responsibility for anything, much less this.
I think a case could be made that the fear comes from a change in political climate emboldening nitwits to act out more. You get that right Thom? Careful man, you are spiraling.
The more cowards and xenophobic broken souls that express their hatred in the form of illegal acts, the better stocked the private prison complex will become.
It's all part of the big plan. It looks bad when you build prisons without a need for them.
Hey Slack - It's grade school vandalism until it's your family's tombstones that have been knocked over. Right? How would YOU like to get the call that this happened to you. You get to explain it to your kids. Sounds like fun, don't it.
Grade school vandalism is throwing toilet paper in trees. Don't know the difference, do you?
And yeah, maybe you don't have kids, and your deceased relatives were all cremated and stuff, the message is still the same. And you don't get it.
Thompson’s page also expresses disdain for President Trump and white people generally. “White folk are trash,” he wrote in a tweet about the Oscars. He praised black women for their opposition to Trump “The only person to call Trump a fascist in the #dncdebate is a black woman,” he wrote. “Of course. Black women are the root of left mvmnts.”
So an anti-trump, anti-white, disgraced reporter was behind it? LOL.
I'm sure you guys will still blame Bannon/Trump somehow.
Officials have arrested a Israeli American teenager in connection with a string of bomb threats made to U.S. Jewish Community Centers and schools over the past several months.
...
Some in the U.S. have connected the threats to a perceived rise in hostility toward Jews during the 2016 election. The motivation behind crimes like this can be extremely difficult to prove, however, and Haaretz reports that the suspect arrested on Thursday is being accused of involvement in “hundreds of incidents involving threats to institutions around the world, including Israel, over a period of two or three years.”
Hysterical. Because a few incidents aren't the result of anti Semitism or carried out by the usual suspects we can just laugh off all the other Neo Nazi homegrown terrorist activities and deny that the incidents of hate crimes haven't increased dramatically because Trump aka Breitbart became President and sent a signal that this regime Supports the White Supremacists aka Alt Right Movement. yeah, no actual hate crimes to see here...
I dunno just because he is an Israeli American does not exclude him from being antisemitic. Even though the article states they think he is Jewish, people turn on their faiths all the time. Im not convinced he and his pops are out to set off a race war.(helter skelter?) by making it look like Jews are being attacked everywhere. Im thinking dude is just nutty. I'll be interested to see whats what.Glad he was caught.
<<<<Rise of white power groups over the last several years. Just happens that Bannon was running a white power empowerment website during that time. All they needed was a little encouragement
But haven't there been white power websites since the dawn of the Internet? I'd attribute it more to the rising tide of nationalism and race centrism that seems to be sweeping the globe currently.
Your point about not openly discouraging this trend more from those in power is well taken, though. The Trump junta needs to not only distance themselves from this shit, but actively speak out against it......but I have a feeling they don't want to lose those voters, so they let it simmer. It's all going to blow up in their face though.
SPLC and ACLU have all the facts and stats about the rise in hate crimes.
Nazi groups and white nationalists are targeting Muslims, Blacks, Latinos, Jews and other minorities in greater numbers as The Trump regime continues to embolden said hate groups while crafting discriminatory policies, and hiring people associated with the White Nationalist movement. Trump doesn't know David Duke like he doesn't knows Putin.
From my understanding, that Israeli American kid has a pretty large brain tumor that has kept him pretty much out of life because he is crazy. Let's see how that pans out. If it turns out that he's batshit nuts, and that was the cause of his actions, what the hell are you going to do. Crazy people do crazy things.
>> SPLC and ACLU have all the facts and stats about the rise in hate crimes.
I just went on the SPLC site. They track "hate incidents", not "hate crimes". The "hate incidents" are self reported submissions to the website.
They claim hundreds of incidents since the election, but don't track anything before it.
It's self serving propaganda. It's admitted to not be representative sample since it's self reported and not polled. It's also labelled "anecdotal" and not entirely vetted. "The SPLC made every effort to verify each report, but many included in the count remain anecdotal." The data is not the same value as say polling done by a reputable news agency or data collected by the government.
>>>> they claim hundreds of incidents since the election, but don't track anything before it.
>> Ender, that just isn't true.
Last week, shortly after Donald J. Trump was elected the country’s next president, the Southern Poverty Law Center put up a form on its website encouraging people to share details about potential hate crimes.
SPLC has tracked hate crime "incidents" for years. Used to be called Klanwatch when they started.
Probably because Morris Dees had recently won a case against United Klans of Alabama on behalf of the mother of a young man who was lynched in Mobile in...1981.
In 1994 they expanded into tracking militias and the "patriot" movement, now known as the Teaparty movement. And now we have alt-right racists advising the goddam president.
Any incident, which constitutes a criminal offence, perceived by the victim or any other person, as being motivated by prejudice or hate.
HATE INCIDENT
Any incident, which may or may not constitute a criminal offence, which is perceived by the victim or any other person, as being motivated by prejudice or hate.
A lot of people who are butthurt over the election are forwarding their racist cousins facebook post to the ACLU. Then you guys are misinterpretting that as an actual hate crime and somehow attributing it to Trump.
This is a fake news circle jerk. Come back with real data if you want to debate.
No one has to debate American racism. It is all too easy to see, signage at Trump and Teaparty rallies for example.
The fact that someone has a cousin making racist comments on Facebook, thousands in fact, should give you pause rather than motivating you to come up with weak sauce defending this criminal regime.
Go on over to al.com and read the comments. Reddit, 4chan, et fucking cetera.
>> rather than motivating you to come up with weak sauce defending this criminal regime.
Dude, I'm not defending the regime. If I had to guess, I'd guess that actual hate crimes are up since the election. But there has been no data presented to support that.
>> Go on over to al.com and read the comments. Reddit, 4chan, et fucking cetera.
That's anecdotal and not evidence. You've worked in academia, I'm sure you realize that's not the proper basis of an argument.
News sites and reddit tailor their content based on what you've read in the past and your stated preferences. You are literally not seeing the same news as other people. It's very easy to put yourself in a digital room full of mirrors and yes-men. That's why I prefer printed news.
Certainly Trump's rhetoric and vile brand of nationalism has got the haters all stirred up - probably just as much as having a black guy with a Muslim sounding name elected president - but it will be interesting to see how Bannon's Anti-Semitism meshes with Jared Kushner and the hard line, pro-Israeli wing of the administration.
And here's the FBI page for 2014, which makes the 2015 data more meaningful. It looks like about a 7% increase in hate crime offenses from 2014 to 2015.
>>>If you actually believe that Trump or Bannon are actively encouraging any of this it says a lot more about you then it does about them.
Are you fucking kidding Thom?
Are you this asleep? Trump encouraged this with so much of his rhetoric during the election as well as following it.
How can someone who presents themselves as a reasonably minded person in every non-political thread present themselves as someone like this is political threads?
Is this being loyal to somone? One of your parents--you dad maybe? Was he a big republican?
It's got to be something like that because otherwise, it's too fucked up.
I would always give more weight to a vetted, sourced data point.
However, race incidents, like rape prosecutions often begin with anecdotal accounts of things that happen to people. Oral histories like the ones put out by Studs Terkel are anecdotal but give insight into patterns of thought.
I am sure SPLC can provide some verification as they have been doing this work for many years.
A more sourced account of racial patterns can be found in the three volume King bio by Taylor Branch.
That said, one simply cannot dismiss the sexist and racist noise that is openly available to see. Trump has openly mined that vein and many of his followers are emboldened and act accordingly. Do I even have to mention breitbart?
You sometimes really don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
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West coast dates tba
West coast dates tba
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this has been going on far a
this has been going on far a few weeks now. couple of 100 so far.
What is the motive for 100's of false bomb threats.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
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If you actually believe that
If you actually believe that Trump or Bannon are actively encouraging any of this it says a lot more about you then it does about them.
The current leadership of the Democrat Party is more anti-Semetic than Trump or his administration will ever be. You might want to delve into the history of Keith Ellison (former supporter of Louis Farrakhan who was almost elected DNC chair and was appointed Deputy DNC Chair as soon as Perez was elected) as well as Linda Sarsour (an organizer of the Trump protests of 1/21/17 whose support for Palestinian mass murderers of Jews and open calls for Israel’s destruction have been ongoing for more than a decade) and Rasmea Yousef Odeh (a major organizer of next months Women's Strike who in 1970 participated in bombings in Israel, one of which resulted in the killing of two Israeli students). In 2004, she became a U.S. citizen after concealing her terrorist background, answering “No” to questions in the naturalization questionnaire regarding whether she had “EVER” been arrested, charged, convicted or imprisoned. In 2014, ten years after becoming a U.S. citizen based on false pretenses, she was convicted for unlawful procurement of naturalization. But of course in Obama World that didn't justify her expulsion from this country.
So spare me your fantasies about the anti-Semitism that is supposedly rife in the current administration and clean up your own house.
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And explain to me why having
And explain to me why having 200 Jewish tomb stones overturned in Brooklyn in 2010
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/12/20/200-cemetery-headstones-toppled-i...
only made the local news? But now this type of activity is plastered across every national headline so dupes like you will fall for the leftist party line.
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Oh, I see Thom. and Breitbart
Oh, I see Thom. and Trump's close advisor Bannon from Breitbart isn't anti-semetic either. Hitler was nice guy as well.
No worries, daughter Ivanka will prepare a statement for her Daddy to read while giving a wink and nod to all of the White Supremacists he surrounds himself with.
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palo alto jcc yesterday as
palo alto jcc yesterday as well
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And Mango Faced Fucktard
And Mango Faced Fucktard remains silent about it.
East Coast gets all the best anti-semitic threats.
(Actually the Anti-defamation League SF Office was under a bomb threat last night resulting in Market Street getting shut down between 5th and 7th Streets....)
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Wow that argument is so
Wow that argument is so stupid I’m kind of speechless. Let’s see the reason it didn’t make the news was because it was an isolated incident not part of a wave of antisemitism that coincidentally started after a new President is elected who has not one, but two openly anti-Semitic people as top advisors. One of whom is the publisher of the leading anti-Semitic news outlet in the country.
Please don’t equate anti-Israel with antisemitism. It’s an old tired argument.
I know I’m not supposed to be condescending to Republicans when an arguing because it makes you fill all bad inside. So here is my deal. Stop voting in fucking idiots to run the country and I’ll stop being condescending. We barely survived the last one, and this one is going to ruin everything in eight months instead of eight years.
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Thom, have ever read
Thom, have you ever read breitbart?
My family has an ancient cemetery out in the woods in GA. From time to time there is vandalism. Not nice but not a conspiracy from an organized hate group(s).
"You will know them by their works".
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>> Stop voting in fucking
>> Stop voting in fucking idiots to run the country and I’ll stop being condescending.
Which Republican candidate did you prefer?
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>>>>>And explain to me why
>>>>>And explain to me why having 200 Jewish tomb stones overturned in Brooklyn in 2010
Because you get your news from TheNationalReview.com
lol
Just because you say nobody cared in 2010 doesn't make it so.
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The CGOTUS, Crotch Grabber of
The CGOTUS, Crotch Grabber of the United States, did say this on Holocaust Remembrance Day:
We've spent enough time talking about the Jews, other people also died...
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>> Stop voting in fucking
>> Stop voting in fucking idiots to run the country and I’ll stop being condescending.
Which Republican candidate did you prefer?
Romney, Bush I, McCain, Rubio, Tim Pawlenty, Jon Huntsman, Chris Christie, John Kaisich, Jeb Bush, George Pataki just to name a few, but they all had a fatal flaw. They aren't bat shit crazy
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>>But now this type of activity is plastered across every national headline so dupes like you will fall for the leftist party line.<<
That is because it has happened multiple times, in multiple cities and towns, you dolt.
Thom it is because white nationalists feel emboldened by Trump's win and by the appointment of the mouthpiece for white nationalism, Steve Bannon, to the national security council.
Thom, will you finally comment about Bannon and his ties to white nationalism?
Or are you going to scurry away like a cockroach again?
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Thom, stop tormenting the
Thom, stop tormenting the liberals, would you?
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>> Trump's close advisor
>> Trump's close advisor Bannon from Breitbart isn't anti-semetic either
As long as we're judging him be association:
Trump's daughter, Ivanka, is Jewish.
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I do believe that Bannon has
I do believe that Bannon has never made a statement that could be considered anti-semetic. I know, it sucks to say, but it's true.
Guys like Bannon and Trump are just pro-America, to a fault. It leads to a progression: pro-America > nationalist > racist
Now, Bannon and Trump aren't proven racists, but the racists have latched on to their pro-America spiel and have taken it to the next level. Unless Trump takes a very direct and hard line against them, they will continue to be emboldened. You can't really blame Trump/Bannon for the acts ad thoughts of others, but they can be blamed for not standing up to it.
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Thom's trolling this thread
Thom's trolling this thread with Trump talking points hits a new low, but I think he has what it takes to go even lower.
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^Brain, Bannon said that
^Brain, Bannon said that Breitbart was the platform for the Alt-right (white nationalists)
So Bannon is either a white nationalist, or he was willing to ride the ideology for profit and power.
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The latter.
The latter.
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You can add the Jewish
You can add the Jewish Community Center in Seattle. There was a bomb threat and evacuation yesterday.
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^^ There was a bomb threat
^^ There was a bomb threat and evacuation yesterday.
It has been reported that many of those calls came from overseas.
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On Jan 26 2016 our local JCC
On Jan 26 2016 our local JCC was threatened as well as about 20 around the country on the same day.
Obama's America?
And then on Jan 18 2017 it happened again.
Trubama's America?
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Also bomb threat at Anti
Also bomb threat at Anti Defamation League in San Francisco. Market St closed for several blocks in the middle of the day
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Bannon's wife has reported
Bannon's wife has reported that when they were looking at private schools for their child he wanted to know what's with Hanukah books Hanukah books in the library and objected to a school with what he thought were too many Jews cause he doesn't like the way Jews raise their kids. Also, when you openly admit to being the empowering voice for neo-nazi america, maybe you have some responsibility to put the kibosh on those people who you may have empowered when they seem to be coordinating against jewish institutions. Same as threats against mosques, also on the rise but doesn't seem as coordinated. Although, currently, I think Islamophobia "trumps" anti-semitism in the white house at the moment, you can't raise a group of people to be "alt-right" and then just proceed to ignore white power activities. Unless of course you actually want to continue empowering them, which I think Bannon does, as part of his chaos and fear campaign.
Has the administration expressed some concern with the "Get out of our country" ant-immigrant shooting in Kansas City?
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President Donald Trump told
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>>>>our local JCC was
>>>>our local JCC was threatened as well as about 20 around the country on the same day.
Rise of white power groups over the last several years. Just happens that Bannon was running a white power empowerment website during that time. All they needed was a little encouragement.
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Hate groups are now empowered
Hate groups are now empowered, and they believe that they are also mainstream.
Soon enough they will unknowingly but directly threaten Trump's grandkids, daughter, son in law and his family, who are Orthodox. We will then see what Trump is really made of. Will he even step to the plate for his own family? He won't do it for average citizens.
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Look at all the stuff I type
Look at all the stuff I type
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To be fair, I'm sure the
To be fair, I'm sure the Kushners are pretty unhappy about the threats and such and would like to discourage it. However, I'm sure Grima Wormtongue has made it clear to Trump that he shouldn't be seen as in any way having any responsibility for anything, much less this.
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if thom cannot intellectually
if thom cannot intellectually wrap his mind around the fact that having this proto-fascist in office does not embolden hate groups, he is way gone....
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I think a case could be made
I think a case could be made that the fear comes from a change in political climate emboldening nitwits to act out more. You get that right Thom? Careful man, you are spiraling.
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jinx! embolden!
jinx! embolden!
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I say bring out the dirty.
I say bring out the dirty.
The more cowards and xenophobic broken souls that express their hatred in the form of illegal acts, the better stocked the private prison complex will become.
It's all part of the big plan. It looks bad when you build prisons without a need for them.
It's an excellent plan....
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This is all pretty juvenile
This is all pretty juvenile stuff, right? Empty threats and grade school vandalism and shit?
If these guys start acting like Kansas dude, their movement will fall apart, right?
The terrorists have won and shit.
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David Duke: Jews are doing it
David Duke: Jews are doing it for sympathy.
Donald Trump: Sometimes.
I didn't even make that up
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Did he get any Jewish support
Did he get any Jewish support during the election?
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Some of the ultra Orthodox
Some of the ultra Orthodox Jews like the guy.
Mass desecration of cemeteries is hardly grade school stuff. Empty threats very quickly become actions.
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Why are they not blowing up
Why are they not blowing up anything?
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Why do some Orthodox like him
Why do some Orthodox like him?
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>>>>Why do some Orthodox like
>>>>Why do some Orthodox like him?
Flynn was a massive fan of settlements. Also, Kushner is Orthodox.
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Probably for many of the same
Probably for many of the same reasons that other people like him.
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Disgusting.
Disgusting. Trump and KKK/David Duke agree that the Jews are to blame:
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-anti-semitism-false-flag-david-duke-ee29...
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All of them? Even his
All of them? Even his supporters?
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just do it
just do it
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>> And Mango Faced Fucktard
>> And Mango Faced Fucktard remains silent about it.
He lead with it in his address yesterday, in case you missed it.
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thom supports white
thom supports white nationalism.
thom hates minorities.
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Hey Slack - It's grade school
Hey Slack - It's grade school vandalism until it's your family's tombstones that have been knocked over. Right? How would YOU like to get the call that this happened to you. You get to explain it to your kids. Sounds like fun, don't it.
Grade school vandalism is throwing toilet paper in trees. Don't know the difference, do you?
And yeah, maybe you don't have kids, and your deceased relatives were all cremated and stuff, the message is still the same. And you don't get it.
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It's vandalism carried out by
It's vandalism carried out by people with a grade school mentality.
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yeah Trump, maybe it's the
yeah Trump, maybe it's the folks in the gravestone industry drumming up business. people are living longer
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Former journalist arrested,
Former journalist arrested, charged with threats against Jewish facilities
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/03/03/missouri-m...
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Thompson’s page also
Thompson’s page also expresses disdain for President Trump and white people generally. “White folk are trash,” he wrote in a tweet about the Oscars. He praised black women for their opposition to Trump “The only person to call Trump a fascist in the #dncdebate is a black woman,” he wrote. “Of course. Black women are the root of left mvmnts.”
So an anti-trump, anti-white, disgraced reporter was behind it? LOL.
I'm sure you guys will still blame Bannon/Trump somehow.
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^ ender, did Thompson
^ ender, did Thompson vandalize the Jewish cemetery in Philly?
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Orange County Lumber Truck,
Orange County Lumber Truck,
I'm going to hold my comments for a bit on this thread to give everyone time to apologize to Thom.
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>>>>>So an anti-trump, anti
>>>>>So an anti-trump, anti-white, disgraced reporter was behind it? LOL.
8, of a few hundred. One scapegoat and there's no problem?
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>> One scapegoat and there's
>> One scapegoat and there's no problem?
I'm confused. I thought the scapegoat was Trump's administration?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
I stand by my comments
I stand by my comments regarding white nationalists feeling emboldened by Trump's victory and by Bannon's role in the administration.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Backroads Bill
Were these robo calls?
Were these robo calls?
Last year all the schools in our area were getting them multiple times.
I think they were traced to California but not sure.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough
So the perpetrator was some
So the perpetrator was some black guy fired from a former journalist job for faking (racist) stuff.
Rather than face charges, dude should become a politician.
S/he will garner many votes.
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>> Trump's (Bannon's) Amerika
>> Trump's (Bannon's) Amerika.
Officials have arrested a Israeli American teenager in connection with a string of bomb threats made to U.S. Jewish Community Centers and schools over the past several months.
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Some in the U.S. have connected the threats to a perceived rise in hostility toward Jews during the 2016 election. The motivation behind crimes like this can be extremely difficult to prove, however, and Haaretz reports that the suspect arrested on Thursday is being accused of involvement in “hundreds of incidents involving threats to institutions around the world, including Israel, over a period of two or three years.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/arrest-jcc-bomb-thr...
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I'm confused. I thought the
I'm confused. I thought the scapegoat was Trump's administration?
Then "confused" is an understatement.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jackstraw
Funny how these things play
Funny how these things play out!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face
Hysterical. Because a few
Hysterical. Because a few incidents aren't the result of anti Semitism or carried out by the usual suspects we can just laugh off all the other Neo Nazi homegrown terrorist activities and deny that the incidents of hate crimes haven't increased dramatically because Trump aka Breitbart became President and sent a signal that this regime Supports the White Supremacists aka Alt Right Movement. yeah, no actual hate crimes to see here...
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>> Because a few incidents
>> Because a few incidents aren't the result of anti Semitism
"accused of involvement in 'hundreds of incidents'"
And I do think it's anti-semitism even if he is a jew. It just has nothing to do with Trump.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff
Keep up the good fight Nancy.
Vindication for a few.
Keep up the good fight Nancy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day
>>>>>It just has nothing to
>>>>>It just has nothing to do with Trump.
It might. Might not. Have they given any motive yet?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call"
More settlements.
More settlements.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly
I dunn.o just because he is
I dunno just because he is an Israeli American does not exclude him from being antisemitic. Even though the article states they think he is Jewish, people turn on their faiths all the time. Im not convinced he and his pops are out to set off a race war.(helter skelter?) by making it look like Jews are being attacked everywhere. Im thinking dude is just nutty. I'll be interested to see whats what.Glad he was caught.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley
<<<< just because he is an
<<<< just because he is an Israeli American does not exclude him from being antisemitic.
Reminds me of Clayton Bigsby.
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<<<<Rise of white power
<<<<Rise of white power groups over the last several years. Just happens that Bannon was running a white power empowerment website during that time. All they needed was a little encouragement
But haven't there been white power websites since the dawn of the Internet? I'd attribute it more to the rising tide of nationalism and race centrism that seems to be sweeping the globe currently.
Your point about not openly discouraging this trend more from those in power is well taken, though. The Trump junta needs to not only distance themselves from this shit, but actively speak out against it......but I have a feeling they don't want to lose those voters, so they let it simmer. It's all going to blow up in their face though.
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It looks like they caught the
It looks like they caught the guy who made the threats.
He is an Israeli!
For those who can read Hebrew ...
http://www.msn.com/he-il/news/other/אנונימייזר-ואנטנה-בחלון-כך-גרם-ההאקר-מאשקלון-לנחיתת-חירום-בניו-יורק/ar-BByDZRL?li=BBqrXX3
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well, this sure is odd.
well, this sure is odd.
"Jewish man accused of spray-painting swastikas on own home
A local Rabbi said Andrew King is not welcome at his orthodox synagogue"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jewish-man-andrew-king-...
unless he hates himself a la Clayton Bigsby, why would someone do this?
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Keeping score in this thread,
Keeping score in this thread, we have one Israeli, and American jew and an African american cited as being responsible for some of this stuff.
We democrats have been heavy on narrative, light on facts lately.
And we wonder why "fake news" persists.
Now, that's not to dismiss the real possibility that hate groups feel emboldened by Trump's nationalism, but you really need the facts.
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They're calling from inside
They're calling from inside the house!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face
SPLC and ACLU have all the
SPLC and ACLU have all the facts and stats about the rise in hate crimes.
Nazi groups and white nationalists are targeting Muslims, Blacks, Latinos, Jews and other minorities in greater numbers as The Trump regime continues to embolden said hate groups while crafting discriminatory policies, and hiring people associated with the White Nationalist movement. Trump doesn't know David Duke like he doesn't knows Putin.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough
So Nancy, Tell us all how you
So Nancy, Tell us all how you convinced the jilted Black Guy and the teenage Israeli - US citizen to enlist in your hallucinatory Nazi - Trump armada.
It will surely be a fascinating tale, full of international intrique and dramamine.
Once you got them in, how did you make them send threats, topple gravestones, and be on the cover of the NY Post ???
What is your relationship with Putin and Lenin ??
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
From my understanding, that
From my understanding, that Israeli American kid has a pretty large brain tumor that has kept him pretty much out of life because he is crazy. Let's see how that pans out. If it turns out that he's batshit nuts, and that was the cause of his actions, what the hell are you going to do. Crazy people do crazy things.
I haven't read all of these, nor have I checked for truthiness, but it seems a good starting point. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch
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>> SPLC and ACLU have all the
>> SPLC and ACLU have all the facts and stats about the rise in hate crimes.
I just went on the SPLC site. They track "hate incidents", not "hate crimes". The "hate incidents" are self reported submissions to the website.
They claim hundreds of incidents since the election, but don't track anything before it.
It's self serving propaganda. It's admitted to not be representative sample since it's self reported and not polled. It's also labelled "anecdotal" and not entirely vetted. "The SPLC made every effort to verify each report, but many included in the count remain anecdotal." The data is not the same value as say polling done by a reputable news agency or data collected by the government.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/12/16/update-1094-bias-related-...
If you want real data on hate crimes, maybe cite the FBI data.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face
> they claim hundreds of
> they claim hundreds of incidents since the election, but don't track anything before it.
Ender, that just isn't true.
https://www.splcenter.org/news/2016/11/29/new-splc-reports-reveal-alarmi...
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>>>> they claim hundreds of
>>>> they claim hundreds of incidents since the election, but don't track anything before it.
>> Ender, that just isn't true.
Last week, shortly after Donald J. Trump was elected the country’s next president, the Southern Poverty Law Center put up a form on its website encouraging people to share details about potential hate crimes.
https://www.propublica.org/article/hate-crimes-are-up-but-the-government...
If I'm wrong, link me to the data that shows hate crimes are up.
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SPLC has tracked hate crime
SPLC has tracked hate crime "incidents" for years. Used to be called Klanwatch when they started.
Probably because Morris Dees had recently won a case against United Klans of Alabama on behalf of the mother of a young man who was lynched in Mobile in...1981.
https://www.splcenter.org/seeking-justice/case-docket/donald-v-united-kl...
In 1994 they expanded into tracking militias and the "patriot" movement, now known as the Teaparty movement. And now we have alt-right racists advising the goddam president.
http://www.davekopel.com/2A/EncyGunsInAmerSociety/Klanwatch-Project.htm
Those with eyes to see...
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HATE CRIME
HATE CRIME
Any incident, which constitutes a criminal offence, perceived by the victim or any other person, as being motivated by prejudice or hate.
HATE INCIDENT
Any incident, which may or may not constitute a criminal offence, which is perceived by the victim or any other person, as being motivated by prejudice or hate.
http://lgbt.foundation/information-advice/hate-crime/the-difference-betw...
When you submit a "hate incident" to SPLC, you can cite a tweet or facebook post as evidence.
A lot of people who are butthurt over the election are forwarding their racist cousins facebook post to the ACLU. Then you guys are misinterpretting that as an actual hate crime and somehow attributing it to Trump.
This is a fake news circle jerk. Come back with real data if you want to debate.
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Here's the FBI page for 2015,
Here's the FBI page for 2015, real numbers: https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015/tables-and-data-declarations/1tabled...
2016 data has not yet been published.
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No one has to debate American
No one has to debate American racism. It is all too easy to see, signage at Trump and Teaparty rallies for example.
The fact that someone has a cousin making racist comments on Facebook, thousands in fact, should give you pause rather than motivating you to come up with weak sauce defending this criminal regime.
Go on over to al.com and read the comments. Reddit, 4chan, et fucking cetera.
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>> rather than motivating
>> rather than motivating you to come up with weak sauce defending this criminal regime.
Dude, I'm not defending the regime. If I had to guess, I'd guess that actual hate crimes are up since the election. But there has been no data presented to support that.
>> Go on over to al.com and read the comments. Reddit, 4chan, et fucking cetera.
That's anecdotal and not evidence. You've worked in academia, I'm sure you realize that's not the proper basis of an argument.
News sites and reddit tailor their content based on what you've read in the past and your stated preferences. You are literally not seeing the same news as other people. It's very easy to put yourself in a digital room full of mirrors and yes-men. That's why I prefer printed news.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark
You guys remember that time
You guys remember that time John Mayer compared his penis to David Duke?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D.
Certainly Trump's rhetoric
Certainly Trump's rhetoric and vile brand of nationalism has got the haters all stirred up - probably just as much as having a black guy with a Muslim sounding name elected president - but it will be interesting to see how Bannon's Anti-Semitism meshes with Jared Kushner and the hard line, pro-Israeli wing of the administration.
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They are more pro-rapture
They are more pro-rapture than they are pro-Israel.
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> Here's the FBI page for
> Here's the FBI page for 2015
And here's the FBI page for 2014, which makes the 2015 data more meaningful. It looks like about a 7% increase in hate crime offenses from 2014 to 2015.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2014/tables/table-1
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>>>If you actually believe
>>>If you actually believe that Trump or Bannon are actively encouraging any of this it says a lot more about you then it does about them.
Are you fucking kidding Thom?
Are you this asleep? Trump encouraged this with so much of his rhetoric during the election as well as following it.
How can someone who presents themselves as a reasonably minded person in every non-political thread present themselves as someone like this is political threads?
Is this being loyal to somone? One of your parents--you dad maybe? Was he a big republican?
It's got to be something like that because otherwise, it's too fucked up.
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I would always give more
I would always give more weight to a vetted, sourced data point.
However, race incidents, like rape prosecutions often begin with anecdotal accounts of things that happen to people. Oral histories like the ones put out by Studs Terkel are anecdotal but give insight into patterns of thought.
I am sure SPLC can provide some verification as they have been doing this work for many years.
A more sourced account of racial patterns can be found in the three volume King bio by Taylor Branch.
That said, one simply cannot dismiss the sexist and racist noise that is openly available to see. Trump has openly mined that vein and many of his followers are emboldened and act accordingly. Do I even have to mention breitbart?
You sometimes really don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.