So I love Zero but never saw them live during their heyday, only post-2006 or so (including my only times seeing Donna Jean, RIP). Now my kid is asking me what shows he should check out and I want to turn him (and me) onto some good classic SBD Zero bootlegs. Any suggestions?
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 09:10 am
The video's low-res, but the
The video's low-res, but the audio is pretty crisp. I wish I could say the same about my memories of this day in the high desert.
Ranch Rock 86: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA318qwf8E8
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 09:22 am
Well, there is a lot to chose
Well, there is a lot to chose from. And there are various "eras," all revolving around the two main players, Kimock and Anton starting in late 84/ early 85. There are a ton of personnel changes throughout their history, which probably peaked around 1999/2000 (when Kimock started his own full time ensembles) yet lingers until this day.
One of the most notable splits in their timeline is the "instrumental" version (which occasionally had vocals) and then, around 1992, they got a full time vocalist (who sang a bunch of notable tunes written by Robert Hunter).
Within that instrumental era you had the John Cipollina version, until he passed away in 89.
I would say the best way to tackle their catalog is to follow their Bay area venue history -- they started in small bars (Last Day Saloon, Chi Chi Club) and progressed to ever bigger places (Great American Music Hall, The Fillmore, and Maritime Hall).
Any shows in any of those aforementioned venues would be representative of their sound at the time.
Plus, whenever they were on the road in their attempt at finally "making it" on the East Coast or MidWest, you can count on a decent performance.
So, put on zero underwear, chut up, and listen to it all - you have a chance in a million to discover one of the wellsprings of jamband music before there was such a word.
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 09:37 am
Dunno what's available, but
Dunno what's available, but the 8 or so shows I attended at the WOW Hall in Eugene in the 90s were all great, IMO.
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 10:09 am
I'm particular to the mid-90'
I'm particular to the mid-90''s as that's when I was knocking down their shows, particularly some of those epic nights at the Great American.
It was also the only time I saw Hunter out in the wild. He was maybe 50 feet down O'Farrell Street, hanging in the dark shadows of an apartment building, scribbling something (lyrics one would assume) on a crusty old note pad. After a bit he seemed to get what he wanted and confidently marched up through the GAMH entrance. It's always stuck in my mind like it was yesterday.
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 10:11 am
> they started in small bars
> they started in small bars
Seeing them at Sweetwater in the summer of 86 is one of my all-time favorite shows.
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 10:14 am
Golden Gate Park band shell
Golden Gate Park band shell in 1988 with Jerry.
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 10:19 am
here's one song of an early
here's one song of an early vid that captures some of the instrumental era with John -- Tear Tags Off Mattresses ZERO 6.17.87
Steve Kimock John Cipollina Banana Martin Fierro Bobby Vega Greg Anton --- Empire Rock Club Philadelphia Pennsylvania
It's a little raw quality-wise since it ws only recorded with consumer grade camera for personal use by their manager:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxHwXmzfdtw&list=RDuxHwXmzfdtw&start_rad...
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 10:39 am
95 era -
95 era -
ZERO 10-19-1995 Pits Of Thunder Arbutus Town Hall Baltimore MD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNaeoZAOhy0&list=RDsNaeoZAOhy0&start_rad...
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 11:11 am
I've spent enough time with
I've spent enough time with their catalog to follow the changes in personnel and venues more or less, but I'm looking for that *one* magical holy grail crispy '90's SBD that would best represent their work... Or I'm just looking to start a good-spirited fight on a DBMB about what the *best* show was, which is always fun.
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 11:47 am
Keep listening
Keep listening
you'll find it
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 11:57 am
Great summary of the eras,
Great summary of the eras, Alan. I was lucky enough to have caught on very early and see shows with Cipollina (and plenty of late nights at the Chi Chi Club). I lean toward the instrumental years, especially watching Kimock take over as the de facto lead after Chip's passing. Although I can't seem to find a date, I'd include the addition of Bobzilla on bass as another high point for the band. He's both an outstanding addition to the band and ended the era of rotating bass players,
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 12:12 pm
> Golden Gate Park band shell
> Golden Gate Park band shell in 1988 with Jerry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD9T0qQt0_A
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 12:29 pm
Not a zero show but this is
Not a zero show but this is my favorite Kimock I was actually at
SKB with a stripped down 4 piece lineup and no vox
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dPrTT74mqOE
https://archive.org/details/skb2000-02-20-c61.shnf/skb00-2-20d3t5.shn
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 12:44 pm
> favorite Kimock I was
> favorite Kimock I was actually at
SKB at The Edge in Santa Barbara on May 18, 2001.
https://archive.org/details/skb2001-05-18
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 02:04 pm
The best show depended on the
The best show depended on the drugs you were on and the women in your dance space.
Here's a classic (one of three shows taped when they were recording an album, do yourself a favor and check out the whole run):
Zero Live at Great American Music Hall on 1992-10-16
https://archive.org/details/zero1992-10-16.s2.151968.sbd.jeanlerondarchi...
or
https://archive.org/details/zero1992-10-16
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on Thursday, November 6, 2025 – 02:36 pm
This one has always been one
This one has always been one of my favorites...
https://archive.org/details/zero1997-09-27.shnf
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on Saturday, November 8, 2025 – 05:15 pm
Thanks for these links!
Thanks for these links!
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on Saturday, November 8, 2025 – 07:19 pm
You sparked my memory. I
You sparked my memory. I plugged into the board at the hog farm with my D6 Sony deck. I have to go dig through my tapes and see if I can find it. Likewise, I had a broken scapula and could only kinda stand at the board and record. I have a lot of good music from that day. Rod Deal and The Ideals were my friends and let me patch into the board. All the other bands sound guys just left me alone, I kept a low profile Dead Head Style and just kept taping. I remember Pele JuJu and Rod Zero I can't remember what else, must go pull my briefcases out of the closet......Also, some great nights on clement in the city with zero upstairs from the main bar, can't remember the name either this old brain is full of too much worthless information getting old is a bitch
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on Saturday, November 8, 2025 – 09:41 pm
I've always loved this little
I've always loved this little clip of John Cipollina's solo during The Core:
https://youtu.be/dMzL2JVeZNc
I sure miss him! There's more of this show on YouTube if you search for "Zero 3/2/87"
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on Saturday, November 8, 2025 – 09:55 pm
lso, some great nights on
lso, some great nights on clement in the city with zero upstairs from the main bar, can't remember the name either
That would be the Last Day Saloon.
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on Sunday, November 9, 2025 – 01:00 am
This was likely my fave!
This was likely my fave! Oregon Country Fair mainstage on Friday night, 2 sets, one for the public, and one after the "doors" close with Barry Sless and Mookie Siegal. During sound check Barry Sless and Steve Kimock were trading ethnic scales and other guitar wizardry's that aren't normally played w/ their bands. They were both grinning, and so were we!!!
https://archive.org/details/Zero1999-07-09.akg.shnf
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on Sunday, November 9, 2025 – 08:28 am
haloweenie Mill Valley , the
haloweenie Mill Valley , the old Sweetwater ohhh chut up 88,89,90,91? it's all a blur favorite reprise "the core"....