Aaaaaand, ANOTHER Grateful Dead book!
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30 years after they're gone, and 50 years after the end of the main subject of this one, specifically about the Wall of Sound, and the books just keep coming. Absolutely amazing.
While I may or not end up reading it, my personal reaction to this isn't "corpse humping" or "cash grab" negativity, I think it's another valuable piece of historical documentation, and almost certainly better than yet another tired "That time Jerry & I were..." story.
The Grateful Dead have now become completely mainstream acceptable and are currently experiencing a massive tsunami of popularity so it's understandable that people are looking for any way to jump on the wave and squeeze out a dime, but at some point that huge interest will ebb, so I think it's great that 10/20/40 years from now there will be an extensive written history about the Grateful Dead that will be more than, "It was a great party! The music was great, everybody wore tie-dye and you could get wasted and buy cool stuff in the parking lot!"
And this one sounds like it could be one of those.
IMO, through their 30 year history, and most of the 30 years since, the GD have never gotten the credit they deserve for their music or maybe more importantly their overall impact on the live music industry, but right now everyone is listening, and I think that's far out.
LLTGD!!!!!
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philnweird
I've read Phil's, Billy K's,
I've read Phil's, Billy K's, Parish's, Selvin's and Scully's books. I think I'm done unless Weir joins the club.
I forgot McNally wrote a book. Is it any good? How about Sam Cutler? Thought about picking his up a couple years ago but never did. Wish he could've had a longer career with the band. From interviews I've heard he's a good storyteller.
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McNally's book and Blair
McNally's book and Blair Jackson's Garcia book are the two must reads.
Is another tale about the Wall of Sound really needed? That period has been covered more closely than the Zapruder film.
In part that is what I liked about Dell'Amico's recent book. At least the focus was on '80-'95 and not the same ole' lore.
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JP - McNally has a new book.
JP - McNally has a new book. The beatnik to hippie transition.....
I'm holding off until my next cross country flight, when I really need a print book or two with me.
Thanks for the DellAmico info -- I was wondering about that one.
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I liked Skully's book the
I liked Skully's book the best. It's by far the trashiest and probably only 50% true.
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This was my first. I don't
This was my first. I don't think there was any thing else around in the 80's.
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> I don't think there was any
> I don't think there was any thing else around in the 80's.
There were a few. Paul Grushkin's The Book of the Deadheads and Blair Jackson's The Music Never Stopped were published in 1983, and David Gans' Playing in the Band came out in 1985.
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Joel Selvin's "Fare Thee Well
Joel Selvin's "Fare Thee Well" was the first book to focus on the post-Jerry years so I enjoyed it for that aspect. He wasn't a fan of Jill though!
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JP - McNally has a new book.
JP - McNally has a new book. The beatnik to hippie transition.....<<<
Cool, thanks. I'm going to pick that up. His last one (Highway 61 - Music Race and Cultural Freedom) was very good, despite being a bit clinical at times.
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There are some excellent
There are some excellent books of photos, too, by Rosie McGee, Bob Minkin, Jim Marshall, Jay Blakesburg, and others.
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Really liked the Rosie McGee
Really liked the Rosie McGee book. She had a great and unique take on Altamont.
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Candace Brightman's sister Carol's 1999 book Sweet Chaos is worth seeking out.
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There's a new edition of
There's a new edition of Rosie's Dancing with the Dead with the same stories/memories and pics with a few additions. She also did a beautiful "coffee table" book of photos that's now out of print called 'My Grateful Dead Photos and How I Came to Take Them'. She was in the right places at the right times.
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Rock Scully's book is
Rock Scully's book is seediest.
Phil's book seemed too sanitized.
Bill's book was a little over dramatic.
Parish's book was the best I have read. Good stories throughout, non-sanitized, but not overly dramatic or unnecessarily seedy.
>>>>How about Sam Cutler? Thought about picking his up a couple years ago but never did.
Yeah, I read that one too. It's mostly about his time with the Stones and the 1969 American tour. Some interesting stories and its really wild how he literally got left holding the bag after Altamont. The Dead took him in as sort of an orphan after he was exiled by the Stones and left in California.
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Cutler always said his short
Cutler always said his short stint with the Dead was the best time of his life. Wonder why he walked away? I thought he was fired in 74 but a Google search says he left on his own.
I'm glad he stayed somewhat in the scene and was embraced by the core four before he died. He was hanging around at DeadCo shows. Sounds like he didn't have much money as he got older. Was apparently living in a van in Australia.
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If I recall correctly, Cutler
If I recall correctly, Cutler said in his book that there wasn't any one incident or big blowup, just an overall shift in management (too many managers). He was also a "road manager" and 1974 was just before the GD stopped touring for a while.
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Yeah I wondered if the
Yeah I wondered if the upcoming hiatus had anything to do with it. From what I've read he had a lot more on his plate with the Dead than he did the Stones. And the Dead had tons of hanger-ons which probably irritated him.
Here's an AMA he did on Reddit several years ago. Some good stuff in it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldead/comments/6kbrm2/im_sam_cutler_form...
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>>>"Good luck," and walked
>>>"Good luck," and walked out of the room<<<
Biggest mistake he ever made. I wonder how many times over the years he calculated 5% of what the band was earning later in their career?
>>>Rock Scully's book is seediest<<<
That's the reason why I like that one the best. Whether all the stories are true or not, there is little doubt that behind the curtain the truth is that it was a seedy scene. While reading that one I got the closest sense of what it was really like.
Scully was there from the very beginning and in many ways he was more "in" the band than the band members. Professional touring musicians live in a bubble, protected, pampered and told how wonderful they are at every turn.
The artists don't book the flights and hotels, they don't arrange tour & travel plans, they don't make sure all the musicians are at the venue on time, they don't fight with the promoters over every penny, they don't fight with venue managers about the incorrect dimensions of the stage or the type of piano provided, they don't deal with who gets backstage and who doesn't, etc. The artists show up, perform, be worshipped and then scream at their manager because the sushi isn't exactly perfect.
Scully was chin deep in every way from the start, he saw it ALL, but not with the glory and adulation that comes from the bright lights of the stage. His performance was all behind the curtain, and I think he tried to show us what it was really like behind the curtain.
Not surprisingly, many fans didn't like that and neither did the band. I think the general response from them was that almost none of it was true, but given the "seedy" nature of the stories that's what I would expect them to say.
Anyway, as Hunter Thompson said, "The best fiction is far more true than any kind of journalism."
I haven't read Skully's book in a long time, but now that I spent this time jabbering about it I think I'll dig it out and read it again.