Turtle Trivia

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For the Grateful Dead, the famous jamming turtles first appeared on the cover of their 1977 album "Terrapin Station". 

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Kelley and Mouse designed the cover, but the turtles are based off a drawing by Heinrich Kley. 

Kley was born in Karlsruhe, Germany, in 1863. He was formally trained as a painter and graduated from the art academy in 1885. He died in Munich on February 8, 1945. "He drew his wife standing nude in the middle of their apartment, picturing himself decorating her with flowers. He filled sketchbooks with grotesque drawings of anthropomorphized animals and satirical sketches of government officials and clergy. He drew bodily functions and Roman orgies and comic scenes with mythological characters."

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The Kley terrapins had already appeared on a 1966 poster for a concert by The Turtles at the Fillmore Auditorium. 

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https://societyillustrators.org/award-winners/heinrich-kley/

Never met him in 3d, but he seems like he's a family man, hard worker, has a great taste in music, and an all around good guy.

Steve Jobs once noted that Pablo PIcasso said "Lesser artists borrow; great artists steal," but Picasso himself might have lifted the idea from T. S. Eliot's observation that "Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal." Whatever the source, San Francisco poster artists seem to be very familiar with the concept.

Mouse and Kelly's Skull and Roses was lifted directly from a drawing by Edmund Joseph Sullivan for a 1913 printing of a 12th century book of Persian poetry the "Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam".

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Mouse and Kelly also borrowed heavily from those who came before them in their design for another Family Dog poster, which bears more than a passing resemblance to an ad for Job rolling papers produced by Alphonse Mucha in the late 1800s.

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But it wasn't just Mouse and Kelly. In fact, there was an exhibit at San Francisco Airport 9 years ago that looked at how a number of poster artists looked to works from the Art Nouveau movement about 100 years ago for inspiration.

https://www.kqed.org/arts/11361671/sfo-exhibit-shows-how-artists-adapted...

All from before becomes new once more. Remember: You heard it here first.

"He drew bodily functions and Roman orgies and comic scenes with mythological characters."

This would have been a great cover theme for Shakedown Street!

"The photo to the right shows the source of the design of the bear motif on Bear's Choice. It is a 36 point lead type-slug of a generic bear, a standardised figure from a printer's font of type, which particular font, I don't know. Bob Thomas gave this one to me and said it was the inspiration for the circle of little multi-coloured marching bears on the back cover of Bear's Choice.

I guess you may have realised by now that the bears on the album cover are not really "dancing". I don't know why people think they are, their positions are quite obviously those of a high-stepping march. You can also see what some people think are "bibs", are actually a sylization of the chest fur of the bear.

This generic design has been used in several commercial logos over the years. One of the best known is the ubiquitous American company, Bear Wheel Alignment, whose logo is almost an exact duplicate of this little type-character. Bob made significant changes in the basic design when he derived it for the album." - Owsley Stanley

http://www.thebear.org/bearstory.html

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Traditionally; the "best" (tonally speaking) guitar plectrums are made from the shell of the hawksbill sea turtle

this is the same material pickguards were originally made out of

those guys are mega endangered so now picks are made from all types of materials; 

wood, brass, steel, urethane, polyethylene, carbon fiber...

Garcia specifically played adams graphite picks, though I'm sure he went through a turtle shell pick phase at some point in his life

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I thought this was going to be about how many David Nelson Band shows Turtle has been to.

Turtles? Is it trivial that these may be tortoises?

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i love this thread so much

thanks Alan

turtles, tortoises, & terrapins of all kinds are beautiful

https://africageographic.com/stories/whats-the-difference-between-turtle...

ive always wanted to try eating turtle, but ive never really been sure of where to go to ensure im getting good quality, fresh meat. ive seen lots of youtube videos of sichuan people making various braised dishes that contain turtle, and they always take the shell and put it on top of the big pot of soup/stew like a lid, and as it simmers/steams the edges of the shell get all soft and gelatinous and they eat the outer rim of the shell that they call the "skirt", and always talk about it as the best/favorite part of the turtle. as far as i can tell southern US turtle eating traditions dont include the shell or skirt but im not sure if turtle shell is just to weird for american diets or if the turtles we eat here dont have edible shells. 

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On Naked and Afraid, whenever they eat turtle they almost always get sick.

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These two never see each other again 

>>>ive always wanted to try eating turtle......... the edges of the shell get all soft and gelatinous and they eat the outer rim<<<

Hmmm, I think I'll stick to those little chocolate things.

Chinese people eat some weird shit.

Turtle soup was popular in England and the US in the 1700 and 1800s. I used to go to a restaurant in Philadelphia called Bookbinders that had it on their menu in the 1980s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_soup

mexicans believe turtle eggs are good for virility 

please don't eat the turtles or commercial farmed shrimps.

in other turle news, they are here:

https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/green-sea-turtles-san-gabriel...

 

Pretty cool, but what happens when that river dries up? Pretty sure it does every yr.