"... 5. SEVERAL OF THE FILM’S STARS WERE NOT ACTORS.
Following the production team’s decision to use Oregon State Hospital as its shooting location, the producers hit on the idea of casting facility superintendent Dr. Dean Brooks as Dr. John Spivey, the doctor charged with assessing R. P. McMurphy’s psychological health. Brooks agreed to play what turned out to be a sizable role, though it would be the only acting job he would ever take. He also helped secure employment for many of his hospital’s patients as extras and crew members during production.
Mel Lambert, another non-actor, was wrangled to play the harbormaster who protested McMurphy’s ad hoc fishing trip. What’s more, Lambert—a respected area businessman who had a strong relationship with the local Native American community—introduced the production team to Will Sampson, the 6-foot-5-inch-tall Muscogee painter who would make his acting debut as the major character Chief Bromden.
6. THE STARS LIVED ON THE WARD DURING PRODUCTION.
All of the actors who played patients actually lived on the Oregon State Hospital psychiatric ward throughout production. The men personalized their sleeping quarters, spent their days on campus “get[ting] a sense of what it was to be hospitalized” (as actor Vincent Schiavelli put it), and interacting with real psychiatric patients. ..."
I thought ratchet was underplayed in the movie. In the book she was the super villain. More tame in the movie. Both the movie and the book are among my favorites. Read and watched multiple times.
louise fletcher (a tv actress). played nurse ratchet to perfection. she is around 80 now. she played frank's mother on shameless a couple of seasons ago & she nailed that too.
I read Cuckoo's Nest in High School and was really taken by it. Dufus that I am, the symbolism of the fog (his mental illness) coming in and out was totally lost on me until some years later ...... and then I suddenly got it and the book became so much better
The movie was great but no movie could capture that book. Kesey did not write many, but the two of his books of his that I read were fucking great.
She was fifteen years old, going on thirty-five, Doc, and she told me she was eighteen, she was very willing, I practically had to take to sewing my pants shut. Between you and me, uh, she might have been fifteen, but when you get that little red beaver right up there in front of you, I don't think it's crazy at all and I don't think you do either. No man alive could resist that, and that's why I got into jail to begin with. And now they're telling me I'm crazy over here because I don't sit there like a goddamn vegetable. Don't make a bit of sense to me. If that's what being crazy is, then I'm senseless, out of it, gone-down-the-road, wacko. But no more, no less, that's it.
"The talk was planned to prepare us for war. It's going to get messy, everyone agrees. It's going to last for years and probably decades, everybody ruefully conceeds. Nothing will ever be the same, everybody eventually declares.
Then why does it all sound so familiar? So cozy and comfortable? Was it the row after row of dark blue suits, broken only by grim clusters of highranking uniforms all drizzling ribbons and medals? If everything has changed (as we all knew that it had on that first day) why does it all wear the same old outfits and say the same old words?
Because we are talking not just about war, this time, but about the war above the war: the Real War. This war has already been waged, and it's not between the US and the Taliban, or between the Moslems and the Isralies or any of the familiar forces, but between the ancient gutwrenching bonebreaking fleshslashing way things have always been and the timerous and fragile way things might begin to be. Could begin to be. Must begin to be, if our lives and our children's lives are ever, someday, in the upheaving future, to know honest peace.
True, the warriors on our side of this Real War seem few and flimsey, but we have a secret advantage: we don't fight our battle out of Hate. Anger, yes, if we have to, but anger is enough. Hate is the flag the other side battles beneath. It is the ancient flag of fire and blood and agony, and it waves over the graves of millions and millions.
Our side's flag is a thin, airlight blue, drifting almost unseen against the sky. Our military march is a meadowlark's song among the dandolions. And our Real War rally isn't given any space at the United States Congress. Where can you hear it?" -- Ken Kesey
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 01:16 pm
Saw a play last year at a
Saw a play last year at a local theater. Damn good too.
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 01:27 pm
Back on cable this month,
Back on cable this month, Cinemax added it, Christopher Lloyd also as a young actor.
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 01:53 pm
The guy who wrote that was a
The guy who wrote that was a great amateur wrestler who would have been in the Olympics if not for an injury.
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 01:54 pm
^RAndall McMurphy JK.
^RAndall McMurphy JK.
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 02:03 pm
I read this book in 7th grade
I read this book in 7th grade and it washed over my fairly innocent soul like a tsunamis.
It was a movie I also really liked, despite loving the book, which is something that never happens.
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 02:41 pm
btw: One Flew Over the
btw: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1962) is a novel written by Ken Kesey.
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 02:45 pm
It's just a brilliant story
It's just a brilliant story on many levels.
I've always thought Nurse Ratched is one of the great movie villains of all time.
That actress absolutely nailed that character.
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 02:48 pm
"Hold it between your knees."
"Hold it between your knees."
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 03:12 pm
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 10:43 pm
Kesey never saw the movie cuz
Kesey never saw the movie cuz he was pissed they changed the narrative from Chief Broome's perspective to McMurphy's.
I have a signed copy of the book.
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 11:16 pm
Interesting stuff from one
Interesting stuff from one site:
http://mentalfloss.com/article/63639/15-things-you-might-not-know-about-...
"... 5. SEVERAL OF THE FILM’S STARS WERE NOT ACTORS.
Following the production team’s decision to use Oregon State Hospital as its shooting location, the producers hit on the idea of casting facility superintendent Dr. Dean Brooks as Dr. John Spivey, the doctor charged with assessing R. P. McMurphy’s psychological health. Brooks agreed to play what turned out to be a sizable role, though it would be the only acting job he would ever take. He also helped secure employment for many of his hospital’s patients as extras and crew members during production.
Mel Lambert, another non-actor, was wrangled to play the harbormaster who protested McMurphy’s ad hoc fishing trip. What’s more, Lambert—a respected area businessman who had a strong relationship with the local Native American community—introduced the production team to Will Sampson, the 6-foot-5-inch-tall Muscogee painter who would make his acting debut as the major character Chief Bromden.
6. THE STARS LIVED ON THE WARD DURING PRODUCTION.
All of the actors who played patients actually lived on the Oregon State Hospital psychiatric ward throughout production. The men personalized their sleeping quarters, spent their days on campus “get[ting] a sense of what it was to be hospitalized” (as actor Vincent Schiavelli put it), and interacting with real psychiatric patients. ..."
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on Monday, February 13, 2017 – 11:19 pm
I thought ratchet was
I thought ratchet was underplayed in the movie. In the book she was the super villain. More tame in the movie. Both the movie and the book are among my favorites. Read and watched multiple times.
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on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 – 12:00 am
louise fletcher (a tv actress
louise fletcher (a tv actress). played nurse ratchet to perfection. she is around 80 now. she played frank's mother on shameless a couple of seasons ago & she nailed that too.
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on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 – 10:43 am
Some of Jack's best work with
Some of Jack's best work with the best supporting cast of characters ever.
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on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 – 01:32 pm
I bet a nickel
I bet a nickel
God there were a ton of great quotes in this movie
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on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 – 01:54 pm
Kesey hated the movie
Kesey hated the movie
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on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 – 06:09 pm
arguably the best book i've
arguably the best book i've ever read.
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on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 – 09:06 pm
I read Cuckoo's Nest in High
I read Cuckoo's Nest in High School and was really taken by it. Dufus that I am, the symbolism of the fog (his mental illness) coming in and out was totally lost on me until some years later ...... and then I suddenly got it and the book became so much better
The movie was great but no movie could capture that book. Kesey did not write many, but the two of his books of his that I read were fucking great.
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on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 – 09:06 pm
Martini, Tabor, Chief, Bibbit
Martini, Tabor, Chief, Bibbit, RP McMurphy, All the creation of Ken Kesey.
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on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 – 09:21 pm
Great book.
Great book.
Sometimes a Great Notion - better book.
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on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 – 10:55 pm
^^^^It's still sitting on my
^^^^It's still sitting on my coffee table, as yet unread, and I'm still reading "Sound and the Fury."
I'm either going to read "Sometimes a Great Notion" or Hemingway's "Farewell to Arms" next.
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on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 – 11:32 pm
Sometimes a good great notion
Sometimes a good great notion is not better and an insanely challenging read
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on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 – 12:17 am
i loved notion very trippy
i loved notion
very trippy
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on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 – 02:00 am
I accepted the "Notion"
I accepted the "Notion" challenge.
It works for me, but I like Kesey, too.
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on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 – 02:53 am
>>>still reading "Sound and
>>>still reading "Sound and the Fury."
That's my jam.
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on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 – 03:50 am
Notion is gloomy.
Notion is gloomy.
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on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 – 06:07 am
I liked Sometimes A Great
I liked Sometimes A Great Notion.
The movie version never got the recognition as Nest but I really liked the film.
The scene when Hank Stamper is helping Joe Ben after the tree falls on him is great.
Paul Newman directs the movie and stars as Hank Stamper
Henry Fonda plays Henry
Then you also have Lee Remick,Michael Sarrazin,and Richard Jaeckel
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on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 – 07:17 am
My mother was my nurse
My mother was my nurse ratchet to me, once i saw the movie. She'd be called that, or "mommie dearest," depending on the sitch. Good times!
I'm intrigued by *once a great notion*
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on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 – 07:57 am
You know why we can't get in
You know why we can't get in any trouble? We're nuts!!
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on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 – 10:59 am
McMurphy:
McMurphy:
She was fifteen years old, going on thirty-five, Doc, and she told me she was eighteen, she was very willing, I practically had to take to sewing my pants shut. Between you and me, uh, she might have been fifteen, but when you get that little red beaver right up there in front of you, I don't think it's crazy at all and I don't think you do either. No man alive could resist that, and that's why I got into jail to begin with. And now they're telling me I'm crazy over here because I don't sit there like a goddamn vegetable. Don't make a bit of sense to me. If that's what being crazy is, then I'm senseless, out of it, gone-down-the-road, wacko. But no more, no less, that's it.
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on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 – 10:55 pm
The Real War
The Real War
"The talk was planned to prepare us for war. It's going to get messy, everyone agrees. It's going to last for years and probably decades, everybody ruefully conceeds. Nothing will ever be the same, everybody eventually declares.
Then why does it all sound so familiar? So cozy and comfortable? Was it the row after row of dark blue suits, broken only by grim clusters of highranking uniforms all drizzling ribbons and medals? If everything has changed (as we all knew that it had on that first day) why does it all wear the same old outfits and say the same old words?
Because we are talking not just about war, this time, but about the war above the war: the Real War. This war has already been waged, and it's not between the US and the Taliban, or between the Moslems and the Isralies or any of the familiar forces, but between the ancient gutwrenching bonebreaking fleshslashing way things have always been and the timerous and fragile way things might begin to be. Could begin to be. Must begin to be, if our lives and our children's lives are ever, someday, in the upheaving future, to know honest peace.
True, the warriors on our side of this Real War seem few and flimsey, but we have a secret advantage: we don't fight our battle out of Hate. Anger, yes, if we have to, but anger is enough. Hate is the flag the other side battles beneath. It is the ancient flag of fire and blood and agony, and it waves over the graves of millions and millions.
Our side's flag is a thin, airlight blue, drifting almost unseen against the sky. Our military march is a meadowlark's song among the dandolions. And our Real War rally isn't given any space at the United States Congress. Where can you hear it?" -- Ken Kesey
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3339003
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on Thursday, February 16, 2017 – 10:47 am
Loved the book - I should
Loved the book - I should reread it now because I'm sure much of it flew right over my preadolescent head.
The movie is too intense for me. Most movies are too intense for me really, but OFOTCN is like 8.5/10 intensity level. Or maybe more.
It was a decent vehicle with which to enrich Kesey's financial holdings, leading to > > > > and more....