License, registration, proof of insurance

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Last night, I took my daughter and her friend to see Mitski in Philly.  Good show, but I've never before heard such hysterical screaming. 

Driving home I was pulled over on route 70, a two lane, tree-lined road. State trooper approached my car and asked for my license, registration and proof of insurance. I hand the documents to the officer, explaining that I don't have my current insurance card, but my insurance is valid.  He looks at my documents and points out that my registration is also expired. I explain that it's current, just hadn't remembered to put it in the car.  He asked where we were coming from, and then said, "Your license is expired too."  I was not aware of that. I blurt out  "Oh no, really?"  

The trooper handed me my expired documents and said, "Be careful, watch out for dear." 

 

No arrest, no ticket, just be careful. 

 

I could be wrong, but I think that encounter would have been different if I was not a middle aged white guy. 

 

 

Think of it as good karma for taking your kid to the show and enduring the hormonal teen screaming assault, but yeah, white privilege has it's privileges.

They ask for those documents knowing full well already if your license or registration are expired 

 

Registration is not expired, just didn't have the current registration in the vehicle. 

My license is expired, the others are current, just didn't have valid documentation. 

Does a trooper have discretion when it comes to driving with an expired license? 

 

I think that not having a valid license would be an issue, especially if the info is entered into a law enforcement computer system.

 

Oh, i neglected to mention why i was pulled over...

"You were moving back and forth, around, in your lane. Just wanted to make sure you were ok."

I didn't cross the double yellow or drive on the shoulder.

 

 

 

"Your papers, sir."

"Sorry, man, all I got is this glassie."

>>>>I think that encounter would have been different if I was not a middle aged white guy. 

You think?

 

I know, Ken, but the guy didn't go back to his car, just expired, expired, expired, watch out for deer.  The entire encounter lasted about 2 minutes. 

 Plus, it was so different from past experiences, when i was significantly younger. 

 

They aren't looking for You.

deer 

> I didn't cross the double yellow or drive on the shoulder.

White privilege is a problem, but we shouldn't forget that cops who can stop anybody for doing nothing wrong are a major problem too.

 

Thanks Frank. I'm a bit shot today. 

 

You got that right, Mike. That was the only familiar part of the process 

 

 

He should have given you three tickets, then you wouldn't feel your white guilt.  LMAO.

 

I feel no guilt,  asshole.

Just surprised. One doesn't need to feel guilty to understand white privilege.

One ticket. The other documents are current. 

 

 

 

if you are feeling guilt, donate to the southern poverty law center or something? 

Everyone should have white privilege.

You were moving back and forth, around, in your lane >>>>>>>>

I pay taxes so I wanted to utilize my entire lane............Sir

>> White privilege is a problem, but we shouldn't forget that cops who can stop anybody for doing nothing wrong are a major problem too.

The second problem is exacerbated by the first problem

 

You are correct, sam.

I'm actually happy I was informed that my license expired, i didn't know.

 

>They aren't looking for you <

 

In a general sense, no. More specifically, they could have been looking for someone particular, who was possibly traveling in a similar vehicle. But it's probably the old white guy thing 

 

 

 

Back in the day I knew some people on tour who did an entire east coast run in what they affectionately called the No Car. No license, No Registration, No Insurance, and No Windshield Wipers. They did have string tied to them so the passengers could pull back and forth. 

The traveling drug circus was only allowed because we were almost all white. 

Very nice cop, not wanting to embarrass you further in front of your daughter. Knowing full well how embarrassed you already were having attended that concert.

Your encounter was all about getting the youngsters home safe. You were just a minor irritant afterthought.

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I hate Illinois Nazis!

 

Not embarrassed about attending a concert with my kid.  hell, I've seen twisted sister, twice... opening act both times. 

I definitely would have been given $300 ticket for the license, if not for the kids.

 

 

My licence expired during the pandemic. I found out trying to pick up my wife's meds and had to show my licence. The tech wouldn't give me the me

The DMV was behind the eight ball because they were working from home. They also give  6 month grace period cause their was only one DMV open in NY that had a drive thru.

And yes, you got the white people discount, me too last time I got pulled over. It pays to not drink and drive