Let's Talk "Little Red Rooster"
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There seems to be a disconnect that I don't understand. Whenever I hear a crisp matrix Rooster from the 80s the crowd roars. I have [vague] memories of crowd roars when I was there and they played it. Yet, it's one of those tunes that innerwebz Heads love to hate. What's up with that?
Same goes for LLR. 99.5% of people loved it live, and 99.5% of innerwebz Heads hate on it.
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Tim
Always enjoyed LLR live or
Always enjoyed LRR live or tape excluding the one in Chicago FTW shows
Sounded like absolute shit
Anyone else onto that
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: JP (J Bomb)
Deadheads cheered for just
Deadheads cheered for just about anything. Bobby could have played Mel Torme songs on the xylophone and the crowd would have eaten it up.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call"
The internet made more music
The internet made more music snobs that put boomer blues and soul at the top and laugh at anything simple and fun like Bob Weir and Ace Frehley riffs.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf
proper
proper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2VR0VZWkiw
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Must have been the doses.
Must have been the doses.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline
LLR>LRR
LLR>LRR
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Scott Schaffer
I've heard some pretty
I've heard some pretty expressive, emotive Looks Like Rain's on tape, especially the final verse when Bobby beging to riff off the cuff and Jerry's solos take off. But I agree, in person, I don't recall the song being that special.
Rooster was always a bathroom break as well. Just MHO.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino
There is a vast gulf between
There is a vast gulf between people who discuss the dead online and the majority of people who just enjoy going to see them play and have no idea that there are controversies about anything surrounding the music.
Personally preferred LLR over Roster but only because Roster was overplayed and that whole slide guitar debacle.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mr _C
I enjoyed LLR more when it
I enjoyed LLR more when it was played in the 1st set, which kinda stopped in 89 or so. I also enjoyed it when Jerry and Phil would get loud after starting from a whisper.
LRR, I used to try and time a pee break when Bob started his slide solo and be back for when Jerry would look over at him as if to say...
let me show you how to run that thing...
more often then not, I'm usually impressed by the tune. YMMV!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dan
You just made me want to take
You just made me want to take a piss break...
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> take a piss break
> take a piss break
Kinda similar sounding, but not to be confused with take a step back.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
>>Bobby could have played Mel
>>Bobby could have played Mel Torme songs on the xylophone and the crowd would have eaten it up.
I'm not buying that, at all. First off, at most shows the vast majority of the people there weren't Deadheads, they were casual fans. Second, there's a difference between perfunctory cheering and those roars I'm talking about. People were moved by the music.
As for LLR, there were some in 87 particularly that Jerry went nuts on.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry
I very much liked Rooster
I very much liked Rooster when they first started playing it in the early '80s (at least that's when I first noticed it). It's a fun little song, and Jerry could do some very cool things with the slide technique, which IMO he didn't use nearly enough in general.
I think the things that became an issue with that song for folks, and with me to an extent, were that they played it all the time, it always sounded pretty much the same, and of course it featured a Weir slide solo, which have always been almost universally dreaded in any song (oh, those early Stagger Lee's... OUCH!).
Because of those issues it did become rote for me over time, I always preferred CC Rider, but when they played the songs I wasn't excited about (Tennessee Jed is another that always was basically the same for me) I would just lock into Phil, and damn if even the most predictable or non-favorite songs would be entertaining.
I swear to god, Phil Lesh could make a Mel Torme song played on the xylophone sound good. (And just for the record, Mel Torme was great, and the xylophone is a beautiful instrument).
Oh, and Knotseau, there have ALWAYS been dead head critics. The interwebs just gave us all a bigger outlet to preach our "knowledge", but trust me, dead head snobbery has always been a very prevalent thing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
They did play it too much and
They did play it too much and preferred a different song but now I appreciate it more than before. Some great jamming was done on that song.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1990/03/30/little-red-rooster?source=...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
Those 89-90 Roosters, with
Those 89-90 Roosters, with Brent taking over, were hot as shit.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
Lot's of good ones out there.
Lot's of good ones out there.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1982/07/17/little-red-rooster?source=...
Post some good ones
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: JP (J Bomb)
On the positive side, it was
On the positive side, it was markedly better than Walkin' Blues. Both poster children for modern Grateful Dead complacency. There is really no other way to frame it. I mean sure Garcia beat a few dead horses of his own but nothing that approaches these two basic blues numbers.
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Here's what I'm talking about
Here's what I'm talking about with Brent:: https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/07/07/little-red-rooster?source=...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: krab
Hey there, little red rooster
Hey there, little red rooster
You ain't shit to me
You think you're a stud, boy
Well I doubt, I doubt you'll ever be
While you're away, I'm gonna fuck with your hen house
I'm just being neighborly
Taper friends would write Gooster>Hen House>Gooster
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
there are controversies<<<
there are controversies<<<
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune
brent ripped the shit outta
brent ripped the shit outta it.
walkin' blues is my day job. it was played at 98% of the shows i saw, i think...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq
The Howling Wolf.
The Howling Wolf.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: onthehillside
The crowd response may have
The crowd response may have been a reflection of how it was almost always played earlier in the first set. People were energetic and excited. I never liked it and have always hated Weir’s slide playing. To me it is by far the worst sound that the band has ever produced. Even worse that the Donna after the jams on Playin and Greatest Story.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino
>>>People were energetic and
>>>People were energetic and excited.
I was going to say the same thing and add people were tripping balls and Roster usually came out of a break in the music. There was a lot of white knuckle holding onto the guardrails at that point of the show and everyone was just happy to have the music back to take their minds off of silently standing in the dark with 20,000 strangers.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: DEDHED
When it was working, I loved
When it was working, I loved the slinky gritty grungy feel to it... Brent's B-3 really enhanced the feel of this song. When it wasnt working it was really bad... Inevitably the biggest crowd response was the beginning of Garcia's guitar solo after Weir's superfluous screeching and off key slide solo. When Jerry launched into the solo it was pure energy. I love Garcia's solo on the Dead Set version, even though the song was cut from 10 minutes to 4-1/2 for the album.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lord Kalvert
9-4-83 Best I saw ....and
9-4-83 Best I saw ....and they really killed it ...MAN.
https://archive.org/details/gd83-09-04.sbd.clugston.2193.sbeok.shnf/gd83...
( insert smiley)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
>>> When it was working, I
>>> When it was working, I loved the slinky gritty grungy feel to it... <<<
When it was woriking, it was very sexy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur
Little Red Rooster will
Little Red Rooster will always have a very special place in my heart. Not a Grateful Dead version, although they got it right most of the time. Not a Rolling Stones version, although they got it right almost all of the time. Not even a Willie Dixon version. The one that I keep close is the version that Furthur did in Boca Raton back in 2011 when Al Schnier of moe. and Clarence Clemons of The E Street Band sat in. It was the last time that Clemons performed for a public audience. Two months later, he died.
Furthur w/ Al Schnier & Clarence Clemons "Little Red Rooster" Mizner Park Boca Raton, FL 04-06-2011
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: r n
Walkin Blues and C.C. Rider
Walkin Blues and C.C. Rider
two real low points
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff
I haven't listened to Phil
I haven't listened to Phil Lesh in 5 years and may never again. Some of our musical tastes have become more refined over time and don't rely on how an old song made us feel from a concert 40 years ago. Case in point is this thread by Brian K.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
JR, consider closing your
JR, please. Coming on here to just drop a little personal Zoner criticism is untoward and sucks. How 'bout joining in talking about Red Rooster without the personal jab.
This thread is an OG Philzone kind of thread, isn't it, starting a discussion about a song (with links and footnotes)? You seem to believe you're too mature for us, you're not.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
This thread was prompted by a
This thread was prompted by a show I was listening to that had a ripping Rooster. Although the show was 37 years ago, my listening pleasure was minutes before I started the thread.
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I won't ask you how you like
I won't ask you how you like your eggs, BK, but I will ask how you like your rooster.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff
Don't you think sending me a
Don't you think sending me a personal admin warning went a little too far Judit? It's okay to admit so. Most of the time when i react from an emotional place its irrational and regretful.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
I didn't send you a warning,
I didn't send you a warning, JR. I sent you an email reminding you that dropping in to drop turds, trolling to your way of thinking, is not okay on Viva.
>>> Most of the time when i react from an emotional place its irrational and regretful. <<<
I don't know what this refers to, but wish you well.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry
JR must be emotional quite
JR must be emotional quite often.
Likely because he's now entering the low-T period of his life.
It's OK JR, that's a difficult transition for many, one that often leads to emotional instability and denial. But we got your back buddy, you'll be alright.
Still Judit, his post WAS just a weak little attempt at trolling. I'm surprised you bit so easily.
We must have patience and empathy for JR in this difficult transitional time.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
You're right that his post
You're right that his post was weak, Lance, and it's appropriate that we have a little empathy for JR at this time in his life, but I have very little patience for someone who only comes to Viva to troll. I'll see if I can give him a little tiny bit of latitude given that he's struggling.
You may be much more generous than I am about trolling. You are very kind, Lance.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: onthehillside
Just to bring it back around.
Just to bring it back around. This thread was reasonably decent, until someone came by and dropped what can be compared to a Weir slide solo?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High
Let loose like a deuce.
Let loose like a deuce.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
a Weir slide solo?<<<
a Weir slide solo?<<<
Does "trolling" come in strawberry, chocolate, vanilla, etc?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Probable Cosby
LLC=looks like chocolate
LLC=looks like chocolate
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary
<< a Weir slide solo
<< a Weir slide solo
Few things in life are as cringeworthy. Mercifully Jerrys slide work in Rooster more than makes up for that ear discomfort.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Roarshock
They started playing it when
They started playing it when I put on my red overalls. Weir was teasing me. Of course, back then I had regular telepathic communications with the band.
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> when Jerry would look over
> when Jerry would look over at him as if to say...let me show you how to run that thing...
> the beginning of Garcia's guitar solo after Weir's superfluous screeching and off key slide solo. When Jerry launched into the solo it was pure energy.
Jerry to the rescue! And that's what really made Rooster for me. Step aside, kid. I'll show you how it's done.