WOW Hall Shootings
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The WOW Hall has been home to lots of great shows over the years. Hope everyone survives.
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba
Was watching this on the
Was watching this on the Eugene 11pm news, and the anchors had no clue what the WOW hall was... considering i've been going there for over 40 years, that was a bit disappointing, but not as disappointed as hearing about the GSW's... (many great memories there, including hangin out w/ Steve Kimock after one of their early Zero tours 35 years ago or so).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D.
Saw this on the news, but
Saw this on the news, but what really happened?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba
Was a hip hop show, some guy
Was a hip hop show, some guy w/ a hoodie took a bunch ~ 10 shots at folks gathered around the back door, then ran away... that's all i've gotten so far....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
This is profoundly sad and
This is profoundly sad and upsetting. The WOW (Woodmen of the World) Hall has always been a place for community, for concerts, dancing, classes, gatherings. It's got a floating floor that's great for dancing. If there's ever been conflict, it's been the result of alcohol, and I've never heard of anyone using guns there. The world is a changing place.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD
Seen DNB there a couple times
Seen DNB there a couple times. I have a friend that works there, but they said staff are OK.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry
>>>The world is a changing
>>>The world is a changing place<<<
There's nothing new about guns & violence at rap shows.
I've been in the middle of the same type of thing more than once.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MeditateontheQ
Ugh. I saw this headline too.
Ugh. I saw this headline too... hope staff smudges the property inside and out before the next show, to refresh the good energy that's in those boards.
Kimock / Zero playing there on Feb.5!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D.
Come up for Zero in PDX on
Come up for Zero in PDX on Sunday Feb. 6.. Never miss a Sunday show.
Vibes to the victims. Just awful, especially at such a place usually associated with good vibes and dancing.
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
>>> There's nothing new about
>>> There's nothing new about guns & violence at rap shows.
I've been in the middle of the same type of thing more than once. <<<
That is new in Eugene, Lance, as far as I know. It's a shitty deal.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry
>>>That is new in Eugene<<<
>>>That is new in Eugene<<<
It's nothing new in hip hop/rap, and if it's new in Eugene, then welcome to the rap world Eugene.
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>>>>>then welcome to the rap
>>>>>then welcome to the rap world Eugene.
Thank you, no.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf
Tell us about the multiple
Tell us about the multiple mass shootings you have been in the middle of.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee
Signs of the times. We have
Signs of the times. We have more gun violence going on in King County now. The new Seattle mayor, Bruce Harrell is tasked with managing that now, as their police force diminishes. We're not the only place dealing with heightened sense of anarchy.
A few years ago, a hip-hop performance at Chop Suey (a Capitol Hill nightclub) was interrupted when a performer was shot and killed onstage by someone coming through the back door upset about a drug deal. I wasn't there that night, but I've been there since, and thought about how strange and frightening that must have been for everyone there.
For various reasons that would most likely be hotly debated, Hip Hop has had issues with gun violence nearly since it's inception. I guess this gets more taken for granted in bigger cities, but is surprising when it happens in Eugene.
Either way, hoping things chill down there, and that the wounded heal.
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Many wow memories
Many wow memories
people suck
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry
>>>Tell us about the multiple
>>>Tell us about the multiple mass shootings you have been in the middle of<<<
Mass shootings?
Maybe not, but rubber bullets into violent groups two different times, four times (at best recollection) hoards of "youths" crashing through gates, roaming through crowds & beating anyone in their path (I could be more graphically detailed, but blood & broken teeth & ripped flesh is such a downer) one backstage shooting death at a Wiz Kalifa show where I was maybe 100 feet away at the moment of the "action", seeing the shooting and watching a man die right in front of me, and more times than I can count being in the middle of groups of "fans" ready, willing and actively violent towards anyone/everyone in their way.
But that's just my experience.
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Love a good fear-mongering
Love a good fear-mongering thread.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry
Obviously, my personal
Obviously, the examples of my personal experience is not the majority of the live rap experience, it's not even the majority of my live rap experience, it's just a basic (and incomplete) list of examples of what I've experienced.
And I'm betting a buck it's more experience involving live rap shows than anyone else reading this has.
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It’s a pretty sweet list. Let
Sure, and its a pretty sweet list. Let’s do country pop concerts next. Or, better yet, Dead concerts!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry
Oh yeah, LOTS of fist fights
Oh yeah, LOTS of fist fights in my experience at country shows, some real shitshow experiences there for sure, and a crazy woman once bit me in the arm at a Rolling Stones show (25 years later I still have a scar) but never a shooting or the type of unfocused general violence that I routinely have witnessed at rap/hiphop shows.
As for the GD, lots of issues and trouble but very little overt violence (but still existing, in Shakedown mostly, and the gate crashers that scene spawned).
I realize I'm painting a bleak picture of what a rap show is like, or more what they were like when I was in the middle of the biggest rap shows in the world mostly 20 - 30 years ago, and to be fair, the Wiz Khalifa event in 2014 was totally chill in the crowd, the shooting was backstage, involving money & drugs, but especially being so close to it, it became just another notch in my hiphop belt.
Again, it's all just my personal experience, which is not close to the entirely of the experience. Just mine. Obviously, I'm a bit tainted.
Still, if I had teenage kids now who wanted to go to a rap/hiphop show, I would definitely let them go, I would just tell them to keep their eyes open, be aware of their surroundings and don't hang around outside the venue. Of course I'd say that about almost any show, but rap shows more for sure.
I've always felt that it's not really rock 'n roll if there isn't at least a touch of danger involved. Unfortunately, I've just personally seen way too much real danger at the rap shows I've been at.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough
Seen dozens of shows there,
Seen dozens of shows there, even Early moe. back in 1997. Always fun to lurk in the Basement and slurp a couple Beers on a chilly winter night, watch the Concert on TV.
The most threatened I've ever felt there is forgetting which side of the Bleachers I left my Coat, but it all worked out.
I was even at the Electric Apricot show, maybe I'm in some of the outtakes; I was out there on the Sidewalk when they were filming one of the actresses.
Where does one begin to draw that line in the sand ? Ban Rap / Thug culture shows from some venues ? Maybe do away with EDM shows ? It's really up to the venue.