He broke the conditions of his release. Not being able to use the innerwebz is a pretty common condition, depending on the infraction. Why would that be an ACLU issue?
I don't practice criminal law, but its my understanding that prosecutors are given a generous amount of discretion in imposing conditions on release, for example not hanging out in bars, associating with felons, etc. Some of the Proud Boys around here accused of rioting and other crimes were later busted again for violating conditions of release prohibiting them from attending street demonstrations. As I understand it, the conditions were upheld as being a proper exercise of authority. I think the logic is that, in many cases, the accused is not entitled as a matter of right to a release from jail while awaiting trial, which gives the prosecutor flexibility to place conditions on the release that might otherwise seem draconian or improper.
Don't know one way or another if the ACLU will take up the guy's cause.
"At first glance, it sounds a bit Orwellian. A man sitting in his garage streaming the news over the internet... now the government wants to jail him," Jensen's lawyer Christopher Davis said.
"Orwellian aside," Davis continued, "he was wrong, and he's not denying that."
It's a mini-page out of Trump's playbook ... say something outrageous, then walk it back.
If this guy even thinks to contact the ACLU (guessing he probably thinks it's an evil organization), and the ACLU determines that one of his civil liberties as expressed in the Bill of Rights is being violated, his state affiliate might try to help if they have bandwidth.
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on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 09:54 pm
Long time listener first time
Long time listener first time caller. I'll hang up and listen . Thanks.
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on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 09:59 pm
He broke the conditions of
He broke the conditions of his release. Not being able to use the innerwebz is a pretty common condition, depending on the infraction. Why would that be an ACLU issue?
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on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 10:12 pm
I didn't realize political
Total edit.
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on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 10:16 pm
I didn't realize that
I didn't realize that punishment can be and is that common.
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on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 10:20 pm
An example of uncommon ACLU
An example of uncommon ACLU actions.
https://apnews.com/article/us-news-ap-top-news-american-civil-liberties-...
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on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 11:00 pm
I don't practice criminal law
I don't practice criminal law, but its my understanding that prosecutors are given a generous amount of discretion in imposing conditions on release, for example not hanging out in bars, associating with felons, etc. Some of the Proud Boys around here accused of rioting and other crimes were later busted again for violating conditions of release prohibiting them from attending street demonstrations. As I understand it, the conditions were upheld as being a proper exercise of authority. I think the logic is that, in many cases, the accused is not entitled as a matter of right to a release from jail while awaiting trial, which gives the prosecutor flexibility to place conditions on the release that might otherwise seem draconian or improper.
Don't know one way or another if the ACLU will take up the guy's cause.
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on Friday, September 3, 2021 – 09:42 am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3370422/Records-Hitler-enjoyed-...
It's been a couple years since I read the following, but want to say he also received pastries:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25903340-1924
... but back to the article:
"At first glance, it sounds a bit Orwellian. A man sitting in his garage streaming the news over the internet... now the government wants to jail him," Jensen's lawyer Christopher Davis said.
"Orwellian aside," Davis continued, "he was wrong, and he's not denying that."
It's a mini-page out of Trump's playbook ... say something outrageous, then walk it back.
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on Friday, September 3, 2021 – 09:48 am
If he's not denying it's
If he's not denying it's wrong, then why the puck does he bring up George Orwell???
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on Friday, September 3, 2021 – 10:37 am
Under the jail.
Under the jail.
Next to Rittenhouse.
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on Friday, September 3, 2021 – 12:52 pm
Thanks for the input. It is
Thanks for the input. It is valuable.
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on Friday, September 3, 2021 – 01:43 pm
If this guy even thinks to
If this guy even thinks to contact the ACLU (guessing he probably thinks it's an evil organization), and the ACLU determines that one of his civil liberties as expressed in the Bill of Rights is being violated, his state affiliate might try to help if they have bandwidth.
Here's ACLU's page on Prisoner's Rights: https://www.aclu.org/issues/prisoners-rights
The U.S. is the only country in the world without an independent authority that monitors prison conditions!