You have 2 months. In that time you can remove 6,000 American citizens, a lot of important stuff, a bunch of humvees, and some trucks. The other choice is to remove 120,000 people and most of the "high value" equipment, leaving behind a ton of vehicles of all sorts.
Because they helped the US, the 114,000 non Americans would be facing torture and death if you left them behind.
What would you do, save the trucks or save the people?
imo this kinda stuff really isnt on biden, its on george W, dick cheney, and the military-congressional-media industrial complex that has kept us in these absurd regime change wars for decades. we needed to leave, we never should have been there in the first place. tbh i really could care less if the taliban has a blackhawk or whatever. let em have it, gtfo
Soviets left all kinds of shit behind when they pulled out and left their puppet government to fend for itself, but most of it quickly became useless after it was seized by the Taliban because of a lack of spare parts and trained technicians.
Iran still has a sizable American built air force left over from the Shah days that was captured during the 1979 revolution.
Back to yet another unanswered question: What would you do, save the trucks or save the people?
As an FYI, when you start a thread, make completely false statements, and people call you out on it, that's not trolling. It's responding directly to your content. If you don't want negative responses, don't post stupid shit and definitely don't start threads.
I would have started it months ago when you knew we were leaving. Not in the last hour!
What completely false statements have I made in this thread Bri? But I'm not going to argue with you for infinity. You like Biden and foolishly think he's a good leader. I disagree and just leave it at that.
Dude, in a few months, under Biden, we moved almost 120,000 people out of Afghanistan, as well as tens of thousands of pieces of military equipment. Instead of recognizing that, you're focusing on the beat up crap we left behind.
You don't think Biden is a good leader, which is fine. However, every reason you've given for your opinion is based on faulty analyses and ignorance.
Like I said, if you're going to cry about people tooling on the stupid shit you post, stop posting stupid shit.
Doolittle, honestly, get a grip. I said that many Republicans were criticizing Biden for leaving behind our Afghan allies, but on the other hand saying that we don't want them here because it would lead to terrorism.
Olivia Troye, a former White House national security staffer during the Trump admin., sent this message as an email on behalf of the Republican Accountability Project:
"My heart breaks right now for the people of Afghanistan, and for our allies who are trapped in the country and surrounded by the Taliban. This was a disaster that never had to happen, and I hope they are evacuated quickly and safely.
I'm seeing Republicans claim that Trump would have handled the situation far better—and I know for a fact that's just not true. Until 2020, I was a national security staffer for the Trump administration, until I quit after seeing just how incompetent and cruel he was. Afghanistan was no exception.
I sat in cabinet meetings about getting Americans and our Afghan allies out of the country. In them, Stephen Miller would peddle his racist hysteria. He and his enablers across the government undermined anyone who worked on solving the issues in getting special immigrant visas (SIVs) for our Afghan allies by undermining the system at Homeland Security and the State Department.
I tracked this issue personally in my role at the White House. I met with many refugee advocate organizations who pleaded for help in getting U.S. allies through the process.
But we got nowhere because Trump and Miller had watchdogs in place at the Justice Department, Homeland Security, State and other agencies that made an already cumbersome SIV process even more challenging.
The system wouldn’t budge, no matter how much we argued in National Security Council meetings. The Pentagon weighed in, saying we needed to get these allies through the process. Mattis and others sent memos trying to help. We all knew the urgency, but we were blocked at every turn.
Good people within the Trump Administration tried to counter Miller's obstruction, but their fear of retaliation was palpable. Numerous closed door meetings were held, strategizing how to navigate this issue.
Trump had four years to develop a plan. We could have used that time to lay the groundwork to evacuate our Afghan allies. They were the lifelines for many of us who spent time in Afghanistan.
They’d been waiting a long time, all the while under the threat of death at the hands of the Taliban. The process slowed to a trickle for reviews and “other priorities.” Ultimately, they came to a halt.
I have one thing to say to Trump's defenders who are making blanket statements and pushing false narratives about Afghanistan: please, just stop. Some of you were actively involved in making it harder to get our Afghan allies to safety. Your comments are uninformed and hurtful. And we see right through you.
I’m grateful for everyone now advocating the urgency of getting our allies out of Afghanistan ASAP and those who are doing everything they can to help. This is a matter of national security.
Most importantly, it’s the least we can do for these individuals. The world is watching.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 08:51 pm
Yes kudos indeed! I think
Yes kudos indeed! I think some people think he should have been personally running security at the airport or something
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 09:13 pm
I bet Trump doesn't get a
I bet Trump doesn't get a Christmas card from the Kurds this year....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: whats that irratating buzz, must bfeedback
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 09:17 pm
Cant help but think something
Cant help but think something horrific is going to happen regarding said pillaged weapons...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 09:38 pm
You have 2 months. In that
You have 2 months. In that time you can remove 6,000 American citizens, a lot of important stuff, a bunch of humvees, and some trucks. The other choice is to remove 120,000 people and most of the "high value" equipment, leaving behind a ton of vehicles of all sorts.
Because they helped the US, the 114,000 non Americans would be facing torture and death if you left them behind.
What would you do, save the trucks or save the people?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 09:38 pm
I'm amazed that some
I'm amazed that some hillbilly terrorists hop into a helicopter and are able to fly like it's riding a bike.
The complete story is not being told.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 09:50 pm
Knowlittle.
Knowlittle.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Denny dbmu1977
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 09:51 pm
Once they start breaking down
Once they start breaking down, they won't be flying anymore. Who is going to fix 'em. Where are the going spare parts?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline Localcountyline
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 09:51 pm
Apparently If you can drive a
Apparently If you can drive a Toyota, you can fly a Blackhawk....
So Doolittle, we should have risked more US soldiers' lives to get all that shit out of there?
No fucking way. 20 years there was at least 10 too many.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 09:52 pm
Racket, who did you vote for
Racket, who did you vote for in the recall?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Denny dbmu1977
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 09:53 pm
If the other guy was still in
If the other guy was still in charge this would have been10x the shit show. He did such A fine job for the last four!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 09:57 pm
The white supremacist from
The white supremacist from south central.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 10:00 pm
I was born in South Central.
I was born in South Central.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 10:43 pm
imo this kinda stuff really
imo this kinda stuff really isnt on biden, its on george W, dick cheney, and the military-congressional-media industrial complex that has kept us in these absurd regime change wars for decades. we needed to leave, we never should have been there in the first place. tbh i really could care less if the taliban has a blackhawk or whatever. let em have it, gtfo
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 10:50 pm
Barbara Lee speaks for me...
Barbara Lee speaks for me...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 – 11:09 pm
Soviets left all kinds of
Soviets left all kinds of shit behind when they pulled out and left their puppet government to fend for itself, but most of it quickly became useless after it was seized by the Taliban because of a lack of spare parts and trained technicians.
Iran still has a sizable American built air force left over from the Shah days that was captured during the 1979 revolution.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 07:22 am
Well someone had to finish
Well someone had to finish all of Trumps campaign promises
end war in Afghanistan
re build the infrastructure
repeal and replace Obama Care with some thing better
Eliminate Isis
President Doolittle's biggest accomplishment is he played more rounds of golf than any past President
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: FlutterBy jlp
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 12:14 pm
20 years there was 20 too
20 years there was 20 too many
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 04:15 pm
Do
Do
Nothing
Please never get half a fucking clue we love you just the way you are
Everyone needs someone to laugh at
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 04:15 pm
And I wonder if you're
And I wonder if you're planning on joining the new confederate states of non-America
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 04:16 pm
When you jump off the cliff
When you jump off the cliff make sure you have a running start in a blindfold on
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 04:17 pm
And please don't reproduce as
And please don't reproduce as a lemming might
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 04:34 pm
Joel forever the burnout
Joel forever the burnout troll who's comments need deciphering as most of your post's are gibberish.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 04:41 pm
I am sorry that you are to
I am sorry that you are too limited to translate them into your P sized brain Mr. gibberish
https://www.facebook.com/290223704927728/photos/a.290268694923229/887173...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 04:42 pm
U are the troll. Btw
U are the troll. Btw
Keep on yelling into your mirror
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 04:45 pm
Am I drunk?
Am I drunk?
Did i smoke a bunch of pot today?
Burn out or intellectually gifted?
And / Or are you pyramid of hate yelling and confused...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 05:11 pm
If ignorance is bliss, why
If ignorance is bliss, why does doeslittle seem so unhappy all the time?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: FlutterBy jlp
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 05:17 pm
it's a new right winger thing
it's a new right winger thing
they know how wrong they are while also being all in
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 06:32 pm
Back to yet another
Back to yet another unanswered question: What would you do, save the trucks or save the people?
As an FYI, when you start a thread, make completely false statements, and people call you out on it, that's not trolling. It's responding directly to your content. If you don't want negative responses, don't post stupid shit and definitely don't start threads.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 08:00 pm
I would have started it
I would have started it months ago when you knew we were leaving. Not in the last hour!
What completely false statements have I made in this thread Bri? But I'm not going to argue with you for infinity. You like Biden and foolishly think he's a good leader. I disagree and just leave it at that.
And Joel, LMAO!
Your right
PHIL IS GOD
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 08:04 pm
And JLP did your Tarot cards
And JLP did your Tarot cards tell me I'm a right winger!? LOL
You don;t know shit about me!
I don't like booby Biden so I must be a Trumpster. Simple minds!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 08:39 pm
Dude, in a few months, under
Dude, in a few months, under Biden, we moved almost 120,000 people out of Afghanistan, as well as tens of thousands of pieces of military equipment. Instead of recognizing that, you're focusing on the beat up crap we left behind.
You don't think Biden is a good leader, which is fine. However, every reason you've given for your opinion is based on faulty analyses and ignorance.
Like I said, if you're going to cry about people tooling on the stupid shit you post, stop posting stupid shit.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 – 08:41 pm
Didn't you say WE DON'T WANT
Didn't you say WE DON'T WANT AFGANIS HERE ???
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Saturday, September 4, 2021 – 04:28 am
Texans
Texans
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, September 4, 2021 – 07:23 am
Doolittle, honestly, get a
Doolittle, honestly, get a grip. I said that many Republicans were criticizing Biden for leaving behind our Afghan allies, but on the other hand saying that we don't want them here because it would lead to terrorism.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Saturday, September 4, 2021 – 02:16 pm
Get a Grip.
Get a Grip.
Sorry if I missed that but please show me where you said that!?
I doubt it!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Saturday, September 4, 2021 – 02:20 pm
Do
Do
or don't read this opinion piece as you choose
https://apple.news/AKcVFd0MWTrSvoP3aVGJOig
may add some context to views expressed. ( Or parroted)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Saturday, September 4, 2021 – 02:51 pm
I love you Joel!
I love you Joel!
Difference of opinions!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ltk173 Hank Moody
on Saturday, September 4, 2021 – 03:03 pm
China is most likely already
China is most likely already in country tearing down all the equipment to steal the technology.
Most of what they have they've stolen.
That's why it was left/given.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Monday, September 6, 2021 – 11:43 pm
David Fisk
David Fisk
August 24 at 12:32 PM ·
Olivia Troye, a former White House national security staffer during the Trump admin., sent this message as an email on behalf of the Republican Accountability Project:
"My heart breaks right now for the people of Afghanistan, and for our allies who are trapped in the country and surrounded by the Taliban. This was a disaster that never had to happen, and I hope they are evacuated quickly and safely.
I'm seeing Republicans claim that Trump would have handled the situation far better—and I know for a fact that's just not true. Until 2020, I was a national security staffer for the Trump administration, until I quit after seeing just how incompetent and cruel he was. Afghanistan was no exception.
I sat in cabinet meetings about getting Americans and our Afghan allies out of the country. In them, Stephen Miller would peddle his racist hysteria. He and his enablers across the government undermined anyone who worked on solving the issues in getting special immigrant visas (SIVs) for our Afghan allies by undermining the system at Homeland Security and the State Department.
I tracked this issue personally in my role at the White House. I met with many refugee advocate organizations who pleaded for help in getting U.S. allies through the process.
But we got nowhere because Trump and Miller had watchdogs in place at the Justice Department, Homeland Security, State and other agencies that made an already cumbersome SIV process even more challenging.
The system wouldn’t budge, no matter how much we argued in National Security Council meetings. The Pentagon weighed in, saying we needed to get these allies through the process. Mattis and others sent memos trying to help. We all knew the urgency, but we were blocked at every turn.
Good people within the Trump Administration tried to counter Miller's obstruction, but their fear of retaliation was palpable. Numerous closed door meetings were held, strategizing how to navigate this issue.
Trump had four years to develop a plan. We could have used that time to lay the groundwork to evacuate our Afghan allies. They were the lifelines for many of us who spent time in Afghanistan.
They’d been waiting a long time, all the while under the threat of death at the hands of the Taliban. The process slowed to a trickle for reviews and “other priorities.” Ultimately, they came to a halt.
I have one thing to say to Trump's defenders who are making blanket statements and pushing false narratives about Afghanistan: please, just stop. Some of you were actively involved in making it harder to get our Afghan allies to safety. Your comments are uninformed and hurtful. And we see right through you.
I’m grateful for everyone now advocating the urgency of getting our allies out of Afghanistan ASAP and those who are doing everything they can to help. This is a matter of national security.
Most importantly, it’s the least we can do for these individuals. The world is watching.
Olivia Troye
Director, Republican Accountability Project"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Tuesday, September 7, 2021 – 12:11 am
Ty noodle
Ty noodle