San Francisco Considers Jerry Garcia as Namesake of Local School
From> https://jambands.com/news/2021/01/28/san-francisco-considers-jerry-garci...
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According to the San Francisco Chronicle, Jerry Garcia is among the individuals being considered in a new push to rename up to a third of the city’s schools.
After the measure was passed by the SF school board on Jan. 26, the city can move forward on renaming 44 institutions to “reconsider the country’s racist past and eliminate the name of slave owners and colonizers” from schools, including those currently named for former president (and slave-owner) Thomas Jefferson and former SF mayor (and segregationist) Adolph Sutro.
In addition to Garcia – who was born in San Francisco and famously formed the Grateful Dead in the city’s Haight-Ashbury neighborhood – former president Barack Obama and poet Maya Angelou are among those name-checked as potential school namesakes.
“This is an opportunity for our students to learn about the history of our school’s names, including the potential new ones,” said school board president Gabriela López in a press statement. “This resolution came to the school board in the wake of the attacks in Charlottesville, and we are working alongside the rest of the country to dismantle symbols of racism and white supremacy culture. I am excited about the ideas schools will come up with.”
Read the full story via the San Francisco Chronicle here.... https://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/The-next-challenge-for-S-F...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:21 pm
I think it should definitely
I think it should definitely be a HIGH school
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:27 pm
Very cool. I hope they don't
Very cool. I hope they don't disqualify him for being a junkie.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:36 pm
So, Abraham Lincoln bad,
So, Abraham Lincoln bad, Jerry Garcia good? The times they are a changin'.
If Jerry gets a high school named after him maybe Jimi Hendrix will finally get recognized by Seattle's Garfield High, which doesn't even put him on their "Wall Of Fame" since he never graduated.
Gram Parsons Prep, Lowell George Middle School and the Keith Richards Academy all seem reasonable.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:48 pm
Jerry would be a good
Jerry would be a good namesake for a Continuation High School or a Waifs home.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 09:59 pm
I always slept though history
I always slept though history class... what's the problem with Abraham Lincoln?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 10:09 pm
>>>>>So, Abraham Lincoln bad,
>>>>>So, Abraham Lincoln bad, Jerry Garcia good?
I didn't see mention of President Lincoln, at least in the SF Chron article.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 10:17 pm
I had heard that Lincoln High
I had heard that Lincoln High was on the list to be considered for name change.
People are goofy.
BTW, I'm all for naming something in SF after Jerry, but a school? Really?
That's a dumb idea.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 10:20 pm
^Plus, wasn't Jerry a
^Plus, wasn't Jerry a descendant of Conquistadors?
Or was that just some sort of bad acid trip...?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 10:20 pm
Feinstein lost her school.
Feinstein lost her school.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 11:24 pm
Final exams. Can you pass the
Final exams. Can you pass the acid test?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 11:52 pm
So many fun options for the
So many fun options for the mascot, other than the obvious like the Wolves, the Tigers or the Rosebuds.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dimethyllovebeam joe
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:16 am
<So many fun options for the
<So many fun options for the mascot>
Tamalpais Tabs?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 01:14 am
besides the dead started in
besides the dead started in palo alto
homer observation dana morgan music, billy and pig paly high
i had the same thought about junkie - also on the HOF thread re barry bonds
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline Localcountyline
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 02:22 am
LLTD of course in before me
LLTD in before me on where the band started. Fuck, at this point I'd expect the goddamn SF Chronicle to get it right....But no.
Of course, Garcia has said in more than one interview that he hated school but for a teacher or two; I imagine he'd scoff at this.
Just one example of a person who failed miserably at "school", but excelled at life.
Except for.......
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: (~)};)StealYourFace WALSTIB
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:29 am
Garcia/GD were practically
Garcia/GD were practically slave owners...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:41 am
Lincoln's stain is that he
Lincoln's stain is that he signed off on the mass hanging of 38 Dakota men in 1862:
From Wikipedia:
>>>>>
The Dakota War of 1862, also known as the Sioux Uprising, the Dakota Uprising, the Sioux Outbreak of 1862, the Dakota Conflict, the U.S.–Dakota War of 1862 or Little Crow's War, was an armed conflict between the United States and several bands of Dakota (also known as the eastern Sioux). It began on August 17, 1862, along the Minnesota River in southwest Minnesota, four years after its admission as a state. Throughout the late 1850s in the lead-up to the war, late annuity payments by Indian agents caused increasing hunger and hardship among the Dakota. During the war, the Dakota made extensive attacks on hundreds of settlers and immigrants, which resulted in settler deaths, and caused many to flee the area. This ended with soldiers capturing hundreds of Dakota men and interning their families. A military tribunal quickly tried the men, sentencing 303 to death for their crimes. President Abraham Lincoln would later commute the sentence of 264 of them. The mass hanging of 38 Dakota men was conducted on December 26, 1862, in Mankato, Minnesota; it was the largest mass execution in United States history.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:52 am
Go Dave, go! There were
Go Dave, go! There were actually two more chiefs who were executed in conjunction here, they had fled to Canada and were found early during the Johnson administration. So, Dakota 40. Some were actually found afterwards to have been executed in "error."
>>>As the men took their assigned places on the scaffold, they sang a Dakota song as white muslin coverings were pulled over their faces. Drumbeats signalled the start of the execution. The men grasped each others’ hands. With a single blow from an ax, the rope that held the platform was cut. Capt. William Duley, who had lost several members of his family in the attack on the Lake Shetek settlement, cut the rope.<<<
https://www.nativesunnews.today/articles/remembering-the-dakota-38-2/
All of the U.S. Soldiers who participated were awarded the Medal of Honor.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:56 am
Not sure about naming a
Not sure about naming a school after him, but I think the Jerome Garcia band and instrument room has a nice ring to it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mr. Sunshine State Earl
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:02 pm
Maybe an art or music school,
Maybe an art or music school, but a public shool doesn't feel quite right to me, given his lifestyle.
Of course, never start a search for a perfect person...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:08 pm
they should name it "Farts
they should name it "Farts Don't Stink High"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lord Kalvert Lloyd_Klondike
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:21 pm
Jerry went to Balboa - so
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:44 pm
I grew up one mile from Mount
I grew up one mile from Mount Vernon, had my first job there, and went to Mount Vernon High School. As the most visited home in the U.S. it is already an excellent workshop for teaching how things were in the Colonial era. The slave cabins are part of the tour. Washington is considered the original leader of the country. How can you not share his story? He freed his slaves at his death. It's better to use his example to teach, instead of to forget/ignore/cancel it.
While they already have changed the Confederate-linked names of Robert E. Lee High School and Jeb Stuart High School in Northern Virginia, they haven't gone after any of the slave-owning Founding Fathers yet (Washington, Jefferson, Madison).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:54 pm
There is still a Robert E.
There is still a Robert E. Lee High School in Jacksonville, Florida. Its where the Skynyrd guys were tormented by coach Leonard Skinner.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq aiq
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:57 pm
Names change all the time.
Names change all the time.
Around these parts the public schools are named after prominent educators who worked in the system.
Also, ZFG.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 01:03 pm
Our local elementary school
Our local elementary school is named after a brook, which was named by the guy who mapped it in 1710. He was from CT and came to Vermont twice, to survey.
Turns out the guy owned a few slaves (5). He also let a few of them go. Now there's a big discussion about changing the name of the school. I see both sides and haven't yet formed an opinion. My question is, where does it stop?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq aiq
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 01:16 pm
They don't involve me in the
They don't involve me in the focus group but I make a differentiation between someone who owned a slave and someone who went to war to keep that slave in naming conventions. Also, don't care if the folks in that community make a case for changing the name. I never thought I would see it but here the Admiral Semmes statue was removed from public display last summer and will be moved to a museum. Semmes was the confederate who lost the Battle of Mobile Bay to "Damn the torpedoes " Adm Farregaut
The history is pretty damn horrible regardless .
In the many colonies there were slaves called indentured servants. Often the white ones, many Irish, did their time and went on with life. The black ones were often sued by the indenture holder for some kind of ginned up violation of terms and the courts extended the " indenture".
One famous case Mr. Charlie knocked up a black female indentured servant and then sued her for " immoral conduct" and she never got away.
Sorry for referencing non-patriotic curriculum.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq aiq
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 02:24 pm
*Farragut*
*Farragut*
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 04:54 pm
It seems that changing
It seems that changing/updating the history books & curriculum makes better sense than changing the names of schools.
It's easy to get fed up with "cancel culture", but in certain cases it's a fine line. IMO anyone who waged war against the USA should not be honored by the USA, so Robert E. Lee should not have a public school named after him, and no confederate business should be celebrated or held on high by any government institutions, but suddenly making guys like Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, etc. out to be villains is way out in the weeds, and makes it easy to negate the whole idea of trying to set the record straight on history.
Still, name changes only bother older people, and if they change Washington High to Garcia High (and who wouldn't get a chuckle out of that) no one will remember or care 10 - 20 years from now.
I remember my father having a corinary when SF changed the name of Army Street to Ceasar Chavez Street 25 years ago. For me personally, I had to look up what the street was called before they changed it. I couldn't remember and I couldn't care less now.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline Localcountyline
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 07:27 pm
Jerry Garcia High. Right.
Jerry Garcia High.
Right.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 09:33 pm
Berkeley already has Malcolm
Berkeley already has Malcolm X Elementary (and Malcolm X holiday).
So, it seems that they could still keep my kids' alma mater, Washington Elementary and maintain some sort of historic balance...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: r n terrapin1977
on Saturday, January 30, 2021 – 02:46 pm
The Dark Stars
The Dark Stars
The Wharf Rats
The China Cat Sunflowers
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Probable Cosby dickyb
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 03:47 pm
how about "Our Lady with a
how about "Our Lady with a Fan" High School?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: r n terrapin1977
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 03:53 pm
The Dark Stars wear all black
The Dark Stars wear all black uniforms and the numbers can be seen only under a black light
The Wharf Rats have uniforms from the goodwill and no two match - the coaches are in and out of rehab
The China Cats are dayglo and everyone is named Aomomoxoa
The Wharf Rats are down
way down
down by the docks of the city down
it's 45-0 at half
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Woz Paul_woz
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 04:18 pm
how about "Our Lady with a
how about "Our Lady with a Fan" High School?
Good one!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 06:00 pm
The Jerry Garcia Home For
The Jerry Garcia Home For Wayward Children