Speaking about appropriate language: The lady being interviewed on MSNBC about Wall Street scams just said "...blah blah blah thought that...screwed them over......"
Since "screwed them over" is short for "f*cked them over," is that really appropriate language for family hour?
I've got to admit that I've been using "Best," "Warmly," "I really appreciate your help," "Stay safe and healthy," and many other cheesy salutations.
It's my way of expressing true feelings of care and gratitude for the people I know who are doing their best to to get our community members through these tough times.
OK, I work with people who have developmental disabilities and the folks who support them. I know that everyone's going through a lot of crap, so I genuinely appreciate the efforts people make to be kind and work hard to help each other.
"Saturday's Voyeur" was a local theatre company's hilarious heathen send up of the mormon musical "Saturday's Warrior" that used to be produced every summer.
One year they had "PREC8YA" t-shirts they sold as fundraisers. I bought some for my mom and sister.
Just to be clear, I don't mind the sentiment...it's the abbreviated phrase itself, that is used in more and more out of context situations. You wait ... now that it's in your ear, you'll start hearing in all sorts of places. It's spreading like a linguistic virus. They can all stick with Have a Nice Day.
I used "Regards" for decades. Last year I was looking into the "best" phenomenon, and found some scholarly research into the psychology and response rates to sign offs. It turns out that "Regards" is the second least regarded one, just ahead of "Best." The most favorable and responded to are "Thanks" and "Thanks in advance." I changed mine and now use either of those, depending on the situation.
I guess it makes sense. "Thank you" is part of our normal speech, and it has meaning. "Best regards," or derivatives thereof, is really just a formal letter thing and is pretty meaningless.
I dunno but, yep, the first (and last) time I heard that little ditty was in UT. Hey Now, Slick, Saturday's Voyeur was typically fairly hilarious but that clip almost makes my skin crawl from the flashbacks to some very strange folks/run-ins over yonder.
>>What about "It's much appreciated" .... is this OK?
Anything is okay, as long as you're into it. I see it this way: "Best" bothers the shit out of a lot of people, so why use it? "Regards," which I always used, is like plain gelatin. It has almost no meaning. Variations of "thank you" are meaningful, as is "much/greatly appreciated," especially if you're asking for something.
Sorry, Strawbud. There's treatment for that that involves counseling and medication to make one forget. That's why it was such a great parody. So close to Utah's farcical reality.
The legislature is in session now and the bizarre is in full swing. The mormon taliban don't wear headscarves, but they DO have funny underwear.
>>What about "It's much appreciated" .... is this OK?
Anything is okay, as long as you're into it. I see it this way: "Best" bothers the shit out of a lot of people, so why use it? "Regards," which I always used, is like plain gelatin. It has almost no meaning. Variations of "thank you" are meaningful, as is "much/greatly appreciated," especially if you're asking for something<<<
I think I see what you're getting at. But unless there's multiple correspondences over time and within different contexts, how are we to know if someone's not being genuine, and is rather a serial casual user of letter closings that fall more on the intimate side of the spectrum?
An attorney I worked for back in the 90s signed all of his business letters "Very truly yours". I always thought that was odd, and for a lawyer especially.
In 2021, do we address an email as "Dear..." or "Hi"?
If it's a first correspondence I tend to go with "Dear," and after that it's "Hi." I can be different based on the required formality or informality. Almost nobody in professional dealings get a "Hey," unless it's internal or I know them well.
Back to closings: it's interesting to see how these have evolved over time. Read letters from those in the founding era & you'll quickly see that much care was often taken to find the most appropriate and not understep / overstep oneself
Best regards, With Kind Regards, - Sincere regards, -- I agree .. "Best" is idiotic. - - These days with me it's just plain old "Ciao Baby" -- or .. chow chow.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 07:57 pm
People who sign emails with
People who sign emails with "Best" need to be slapped.
Best what, motherfucker?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:10 pm
Speaking about appropriate
Speaking about appropriate language: The lady being interviewed on MSNBC about Wall Street scams just said "...blah blah blah thought that...screwed them over......"
Since "screwed them over" is short for "f*cked them over," is that really appropriate language for family hour?
Walter Cronkite was never that crude.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:16 pm
I appreciate where you're
I appreciate where you're going with this.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:17 pm
It comes from where all cool
It comes from where all cool white lingo comes from
black people
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Woz Paul_woz
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:27 pm
I appreciate where you're
I appreciate where you're going with this.
Best,
Paul
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:29 pm
I can't say I've run into
I can't say I've run into "appreciate you", but maybe that's because I've been bumping into so much "cringe" lately.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:31 pm
When the guy on Pickers said
When the guy on Pickers said it, you knew it was short for "I appreciate you selling me this piece of junk." But it still sounded weird and stilted.
Now it's just the Appreciate You used randomly as a See Ya, a Thank You, a Peace, a Cool, etc....
So much for sentences... I blame the text. Let's get dumber.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:34 pm
Mike, the East Coast gets all
Mike, the East Coast gets all the cool lingo.
Personally, I'm going to try and bring back "23skidoo."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline Localcountyline
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 08:53 pm
Agree, Alan, really fucking
Agree, Alan, really fucking annoying....right up there with "no worries."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 10:18 pm
I've got to admit that I've
I've got to admit that I've been using "Best," "Warmly," "I really appreciate your help," "Stay safe and healthy," and many other cheesy salutations.
It's my way of expressing true feelings of care and gratitude for the people I know who are doing their best to to get our community members through these tough times.
OK, I work with people who have developmental disabilities and the folks who support them. I know that everyone's going through a lot of crap, so I genuinely appreciate the efforts people make to be kind and work hard to help each other.
Whoa! did I just type all of that?!
With loving kindness,
John
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 10:23 pm
By far the worst manager I've
By far the worst manager I've ever worked for always said, "appreciate you".
But she really didn't.
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on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 10:23 pm
No worries - definitely white
No worries - definitely white slang, it reeks of lameness
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 11:02 pm
The mo's here in Utah I guess
The mo's here in Utah I guess say it. Swarmy. Sometimes folks say it to mock the mo's.
The folks who did the satire show "Saturday's Voyeur" have this 40 second video and listen to the ending. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_BI7ciLXiI Check out the characters.
"Saturday's Voyeur" was a local theatre company's hilarious heathen send up of the mormon musical "Saturday's Warrior" that used to be produced every summer.
One year they had "PREC8YA" t-shirts they sold as fundraisers.
I bought some for my mom and sister.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 11:07 pm
Just to be clear, I don't
Just to be clear, I don't mind the sentiment...it's the abbreviated phrase itself, that is used in more and more out of context situations. You wait ... now that it's in your ear, you'll start hearing in all sorts of places. It's spreading like a linguistic virus. They can all stick with Have a Nice Day.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, January 28, 2021 – 11:48 pm
I used "Regards" for decades.
I used "Regards" for decades. Last year I was looking into the "best" phenomenon, and found some scholarly research into the psychology and response rates to sign offs. It turns out that "Regards" is the second least regarded one, just ahead of "Best." The most favorable and responded to are "Thanks" and "Thanks in advance." I changed mine and now use either of those, depending on the situation.
I guess it makes sense. "Thank you" is part of our normal speech, and it has meaning. "Best regards," or derivatives thereof, is really just a formal letter thing and is pretty meaningless.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dimethyllovebeam joe
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:12 am
I remember the first time i
I remember the first time i saw "Best" in an email response from HR.
And I remember thinking....progress
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on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 06:28 am
"Best to you and yours"
"Best to you and yours"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Tim Wheres My Flashbacks
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 07:27 am
You just T-boned my car while
You just T-boned my car while you were texting
Oh....My Bad
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on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 07:57 am
Best what, dammit!
Best what, dammit!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:05 am
I dunno but, yep, the first
I dunno but, yep, the first (and last) time I heard that little ditty was in UT. Hey Now, Slick, Saturday's Voyeur was typically fairly hilarious but that clip almost makes my skin crawl from the flashbacks to some very strange folks/run-ins over yonder.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:08 am
What about "It's much
What about "It's much appreciated" .... is this OK?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:14 am
unless you are british,
unless you are british, cheers is also cheesy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:25 am
Farm house and fuckin"A"
Farm house and fuckin"A"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:26 am
>>What about "It's much
>>What about "It's much appreciated" .... is this OK?
Anything is okay, as long as you're into it. I see it this way: "Best" bothers the shit out of a lot of people, so why use it? "Regards," which I always used, is like plain gelatin. It has almost no meaning. Variations of "thank you" are meaningful, as is "much/greatly appreciated," especially if you're asking for something.
And I agree with Turts on "cheers."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:28 am
Sorry, Strawbud. There's
Sorry, Strawbud. There's treatment for that that involves counseling and medication to make one forget. That's why it was such a great parody. So close to Utah's farcical reality.
The legislature is in session now and the bizarre is in full swing. The mormon taliban don't wear headscarves, but they DO have funny underwear.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:48 am
>>What about "It's much
>>What about "It's much appreciated" .... is this OK?
Anything is okay, as long as you're into it. I see it this way: "Best" bothers the shit out of a lot of people, so why use it? "Regards," which I always used, is like plain gelatin. It has almost no meaning. Variations of "thank you" are meaningful, as is "much/greatly appreciated," especially if you're asking for something<<<
I think I see what you're getting at. But unless there's multiple correspondences over time and within different contexts, how are we to know if someone's not being genuine, and is rather a serial casual user of letter closings that fall more on the intimate side of the spectrum?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: BlackPeter ose25
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:54 am
If you have manners always. I
If you have manners always. I picked it up from American Pickers
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:58 am
>>how are we to know if
>>how are we to know if someone's not being genuine
I just assume that 90% of the time they are not being genuine. After all, it's often a preset signature that is automatically added in Outlook.
Maybe we should all start using "Be best."
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on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 11:59 am
I appreciate your time and
I appreciate your time and consideration.
With kind regards,
Respectfully,
Sincerely,
Lazy, shortened, dumbed down versions of these sentiments read exactly as such.
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on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:05 pm
Stay safe
Stay safe
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:06 pm
An attorney I worked for back
An attorney I worked for back in the 90s signed all of his business letters "Very truly yours". I always thought that was odd, and for a lawyer especially.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:09 pm
Agree, mike. It's redundant.
Agree, mike. It's redundant.
Love,
bss
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:14 pm
In 2021, do we address an
In 2021, do we address an email as "Dear..." or "Hi"?
If it's a first correspondence I tend to go with "Dear," and after that it's "Hi." I can be different based on the required formality or informality. Almost nobody in professional dealings get a "Hey," unless it's internal or I know them well.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:19 pm
In 2021, do we address an
In 2021, do we address an email as "Dear..." or "Hi"?<<<
I usually go with "Hello Jerry" on first correspondence or after not having corresponded for a while, then just first name.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:19 pm
Dear Jill and Joe,
Dear Jill and Joe,
Hope you like what we did with the place. Don't let your dog shit in the Rose Garden!
Be Best,
Melania
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:21 pm
Back to closings: it's
Back to closings: it's interesting to see how these have evolved over time. Read letters from those in the founding era & you'll quickly see that much care was often taken to find the most appropriate and not understep / overstep oneself
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:27 pm
> In 2021, do we address an
> In 2021, do we address an email as "Dear..." or "Hi"?
I usually just use the first name of the recipient, unless they have a title, like Doctor or Professor.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:34 pm
Greetings Brian;
Greetings Brian;
Happy Friday Dave;
Hello, face;
Dr. Mike;
"dear" always seemed so contrived to me.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:36 pm
It's simple economics; the
It's simple economics; the overuse of "Dear" devalues the word.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:47 pm
Top of the mornin' to you,
Top of the mornin' to you, Bss and all.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq aiq
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:52 pm
Which vegtable emoji means
Which vegetable emoji means appreciate?
I need to cut to the chase.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:52 pm
It's afternoon here, Dear
It's afternoon here, Dear Dave!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:53 pm
>>Which vegetable emoji
>>Which vegetable emoji means appreciate?
Definitely the eggplant. Most definitely.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 12:59 pm
My bad, Brocifer.
My bad, Brocifer.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 01:55 pm
Howdy Herbal Dave
Howdy Herbal Dave
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 02:07 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN6cJ_wGmsk
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Friday, January 29, 2021 – 02:20 pm
Where I work, "I appreciate
Where I work, "I appreciate you" kinda means "You're not a fuckwit who can't follow directions" (Usually said within earshot of someone who is.).
The WFH equivalent is the Skype text: "WTF is wrong with people?"
"Regards" is the go-to email sign-off. But, then, the Firm is British, innit?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: BlackPeter ose25
on Saturday, January 30, 2021 – 12:10 pm
It’s in a commercial now with
It’s in a commercial now with a rapper
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Randy Salvador Vagrante
on Saturday, January 30, 2021 – 01:55 pm
Marshawn Lynch is a retired
Marshawn Lynch is a retired NFL player...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Saturday, January 30, 2021 – 02:49 pm
"I love you too"
"I love you too"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline Localcountyline
on Saturday, January 30, 2021 – 03:17 pm
"Stay Healthy."
"Stay Healthy."
There you go making assumptions....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Probable Cosby dickyb
on Friday, February 5, 2021 – 11:55 am
Kind regards
Kind regards
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lord Kalvert Lloyd_Klondike
on Friday, February 5, 2021 – 12:05 pm
Best regards, With Kind