I've never seen this before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3610&v=i0pUzBC-wAw
... and also from earlier in the same show (1986 - 03 - 21 Set 2):
https://youtu.be/i0pUzBC-wAw?t=875
(Have I gained more viva cyber currency or do I also need to harp more on slow tempos in all threads?)
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 01:38 pm
https://youtu.be/JA4lN0qvFfQ
https://youtu.be/JA4lN0qvFfQ?t=7444
The classic climbing Bobby clip, 11/20/85
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 02:47 pm
^ haven't seen that one
^ haven't seen that one either!
Both during Sunshine Daydream & within a few months of one another
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 03:43 pm
I was at that Oakland show.
I was at that Oakland show. That climbing the scaffold bit was all part of my Grateful Dead is jumping the shark era.
I wish the camera had taken a wider shot of the group during BobStar's little moment that night. As is often if not always the case, our personal impressions of what the players are thinking can be way off, but it's my recollection that Jerry, Billy & Phil all looked disgusted, and it was Jerry who cued the end of the song and walked right off the stage as Weir was climbing down.
It WAS1985, so maybe Bob thought, "Hey, if you can be a junkie I can be Mick Jagger."
Neither of those was a good thing.
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 04:30 pm
^Bono not Mick Jagger
^Bono not Mick Jagger
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 04:48 pm
It WAS 1985, it could have
It WAS 1985, it could have been Bon Jovi.
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 04:54 pm
Mess with my tempos, you get
Mess with my tempos, you deal with Bobby RockStar.
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 05:08 pm
6-25-85 Blossom music center
6-25-85 Blossom music center Bobby getting up on the Piano and dancing around followed by him crawling around the speaker scaffolding during Sugar Mag, followed by a touch of grey
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 05:38 pm
>>>Mess with my tempos, you
>>>Mess with my tempos, you deal with Bobby RockStar<<<
Good point, but I think it was the other way around.
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 06:03 pm
Bono 1982
Bono 1982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbkZEa-cfOE&feature=emb_logo
He did the same thing at the US Fest in 83 climbing all the way to the top and hanging out there for awhile. That vid is MIA on UTOOB now.
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 06:08 pm
Bob sounds better on a
Bob sounds better on a scaffold.
Cocaine is a helluva drug.
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 06:09 pm
Just a fool trying to impress
Just a fool trying to impress girls at the end of the show.
It was good he didn't kill himself in front of everyone.
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 06:58 pm
>>>Just a fool
>>>Just a fool
but he's our fool dag nabbit
be sure to fuel up before climbin' on the jungle gym kiddos
you might be saving the planet
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 07:20 pm
Remember how cool it was when
Remember how cool it was when Bob would rock out down in front of the monitors during the Estimated jam?
Me either.
*****************
You're probably right, Lance
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on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 – 08:19 pm
Rain forest Crisp. LOL.
Rain forest Crisp. LOL.
The start of every con company to save the earth. Pffft.
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on Thursday, December 24, 2020 – 04:27 pm
I remember seeing this type
I remember seeing this type of stuff a few times. My all time favorite though is Philly spring 1985 during the big crescendo back into the last verse of Estimated...he ran across the stage and fell flat on his ass. You can hear the wank when it happens on the recording. The band was laughing and so was the crowd down in front. Only time I've seen a big rock star stumble and fall in mid song.
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on Thursday, December 24, 2020 – 05:03 pm
>>> My all time favorite
>>> My all time favorite though is Philly spring 1985 during the big crescendo back into the last verse of Estimated...he ran across the stage and fell flat on his ass.
That one's on the YouTubes also: https://youtu.be/y5qjwcMJnqc?t=3221
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on Thursday, December 24, 2020 – 07:03 pm
>>>Only time I've seen a big
>>>Only time I've seen a big rock star stumble and fall in mid song<<<
We won't talk about the unfortunate Port Chester incident.
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on Thursday, December 24, 2020 – 07:35 pm
Pete Townshend knows how to
Pete Townshend knows how to fall and recover with grace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1WLAMvLn2w
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on Thursday, December 24, 2020 – 08:10 pm
Lance that's legend of course
Lance that's legend of course. This one in Philly in 1985 happened about 15' from where I was standing so the memory was burned into my mind for life.
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on Thursday, December 24, 2020 – 08:39 pm
The zone is freaking me out.
The zone is freaking me out. Zim I was 30ft away in the pit center that night.
The matrix is falling apart......
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on Friday, December 25, 2020 – 12:24 am
blackrock ...you know what
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on Friday, December 25, 2020 – 10:31 am
>>> My all time favorite
>>> My all time favorite though is Philly spring 1985 during the big crescendo back into the last verse of Estimated...he ran across the stage and fell flat on his ass.
That one's on the YouTubes also: https://youtu.be/y5qjwcMJnqc?t=3221 <<<<
As an avid snowboarder who respects the artform in falling, I give Bobby a solid B+ / A- on this one!
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on Friday, December 25, 2020 – 10:31 am
The zone is freaking me out.
The zone is freaking me out. Zim I was 30ft away in the pit center that night.
The matrix is falling apart......<<<
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBY6pF42I-c
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on Friday, December 25, 2020 – 12:33 pm
^^^^Rowdy Rod! Nice
^^^^Rowdy Rod! Nice
only wwf event I attended he won a cage match against Jake The Snake
The matrix is falling apart......<<<
for instance Face on Mars I'll be having dinner with my friend whose mom was born in Ophir in 1920 something in the old post office building
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on Friday, December 25, 2020 – 01:22 pm
>>>Just a fool trying to
>>>Just a fool trying to impress girls at the end of the show.
More idiot savant
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on Friday, December 25, 2020 – 02:26 pm
^^^^Rowdy Rod! Nice
^^^^Rowdy Rod! Nice
only wwf event I attended he won a cage match against Jake The Snake
The matrix is falling apart......<<<
for instance Face on Mars I'll be having dinner with my friend whose mom was born in Ophir in 1920 something in the old post office building <<<<
That's really wild! You don't find too many people who can say that. Not sure where the old post office building is, but the current one (near the Ophir Loop) still has some very old PO Boxes and antique sort of mail box out front. Just came across this photo last week (old Ophir):
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on Friday, December 25, 2020 – 05:13 pm
They moved from Ophir in the
They moved from Ophir in the 30's My friend (who is one of us but never saw or cared to see Jerry) grew up in Telluride in that sweet spot and the right age to partake when the hippies showed up before the ski area "They hide up in Telluride" isn't just a lyric in a song
how lucky to have the party show up to your doorstep
4th of July parade is a big deal to their family
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on Friday, December 25, 2020 – 06:04 pm
fricken dead base. I forgot
fricken dead base. I forgot that the first set to that Philly 85 show was one of the most epic and complete sets of GD music ever recorded.
3rd Tons of Steel, maybe that's why it was so good, or the supplication after?
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 11:09 am
How long did your friend stay
How long did your friend stay in Telluride? Ophir has kind of still "hung on" to that old ethos (or period of time you mentioned) ... at least a derivation of it, but you got me doing some quick counting and I'd say out of the 200+ or so total residents I can think of a dozen that have been in the area for 50+ years ... then another dozen or so 35+ years ... I fall in the middle of the biggest chunk of 20-35 years ... there's probably about 30 of us. If you back kids out of the equation, it's probably 2/3 of the population who've been around the area for some time. If you look at Telluride proper, I think it's probably more like 10-20% and TMV < 5% if I had to take a wild guess. More people moving in with more money and it's hard to make a go of it. It's gotten really bad in recent times ... long term rental housing are like time bombs with people snatching up housing as investments or simply to move out of the cities. Old time residents often land in other outlying communities such downvalley, Ridgway, Rico, and further out to Montrose, Grand Junction, Cortez, Mancos, or Durango. I might find myself to be a casualty soon due to what might be health issues with altitude.
Not sure I'd say "hiding" is the best word, but it certainly hints at the dynamic. I know of several Vietnam Vets who lived in the area, and one who's a close neighbor ... he never wants to leave Ophir and is on oxygen - still making a go of it. He's never explicitly told me about stuff that happened in the war (other than he was a liuetenant who didn't lose anyone in his platoon), but he's clearly been "affected" & there's something about living up here that offers a balance to his psyche. Same could be said about the other vet I know who used to be my mechanic before he retired.
Yeah, 4th of July parade is still a big deal ... it's a traditional celebration with a bbq in town park & hokey games for kids, but I know at one point it had contests related to mining .... which was probably still going on when your friend was here
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 11:44 am
Blackrock... you are so right
Blackrock... you are so right about this show!... that first set ranks near the top of anything I ever saw. It was so crazy down in front that night! That whole set was cranking in a perfect and wild frenzied atmosphere that built all through the show. The Bobby wipeout was icing on the cake and the laughter and pointing at him was fun. He sort of pretended and believed that nobody had noticed. And yes it was all for the girls!
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 12:34 pm
When they left Ophir they
When they left Ophir grand ma moved into the brick house on the left on Colorado between N.Davis and N.Townshend. In Telluride. Then mom moved into her own place on S.Townsend to raise her children(my friend)
Relatives came from Northern Italy to work the mine in 1910 something
She has some cool specimens that her uncles mined in the 20's trough 50's
I think grand ma ran a saloon in the 30's and 40's Then mom became a hairdresser in the 50's and 60's I think they cashed out in the mid-late 70's and spread out to the towns you mentioned above.
Her cousin is a local author and historian you probably heard of.
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 12:36 pm
>>>>you are so right about
>>>>you are so right about this show!
I was lucky to get quality audience tapes of all 3 spectrums within a couple weeks after these shows.
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 12:38 pm
FOM do you know my old friend
FOM do you know my old friend Fritz?
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 02:13 pm
I forgot that the first set
I forgot that the first set to that Philly 85 show was one of the most epic and complete sets of GD music ever recorded>>>
3rd show opened with a trip back in time to 1970: Midnight Hr>Walking the Dog>Big Boss Uncle>Cumberland.
The 2nd set the night before also qualifies as complete & epic, "Hi ya,hi ya, hi ya kids"
GA shows with no chairs on the floor are always a blast, took seats right behind Harry Popick about 10 rows up, sound & view of the stage were prime.
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 02:14 pm
As much as this most recent
As much as this most recent wave of "newcomers" makes me raise an eyebrow every now and again, I can't imagine what it was like for your friend and family to actually see the arrival of the "hippies"! There was a marshal (Everett Morrow) who was notorious for clashing with the newcomers. There's a cool local documentary called "YX Factor" that goes into this (but from the perspective of the hippies) ... just found it online:
https://wilkinson.marmot.org/Archive/wilkinson%3A241/Video?searchId=1021...
I imagine there wasn't much of a call for a hairdresser after a lot of the remnants of mining families left.
Perhaps her cousin has some material at the library's "Telluride Room" -- which has a lot of historical works, including a pretty extensive volume of oral history that was put together on recordings as part of a project. I find it all fascinating to read about and it's hard to miss with all kinds of old decaying remnants in the backcountry. I find it interesting to hear about how the town was segregated according to where people's families came from and how they often kept to themselves. Not sure if it was still that way when you friend was growing up?
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 02:16 pm
FOM do you know my old friend
FOM do you know my old friend Fritz?<<<
If it's the same Fritz who kinda looks like Michael Travis (SCI) with long hair, then I just know who he is ... but don't really know him.
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 02:20 pm
Used to have lomg scraggly
Used to have lomg scraggly pony tail. From Alabama. I think he ended up buying in to the Buck (Silbver Dollar). He's been in town 30+ years.
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 02:31 pm
Is he an electrician by
Might be the same person I'm thinking of ... unless you meant the bar OB's and he's an electrician?
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 06:16 pm
https://www.gocomics.com
https://www.gocomics.com/fminus/2020/12/26
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on Saturday, December 26, 2020 – 07:04 pm
>>>seats right behind Harry
>>>seats right behind Harry Popick
sometime in the late 90's took my dog and my girl at the time(miss that dog) to Scott's Creek beach. They looked for abalone shells on the beach while I tried to surf.
A family of three, Mom, Dad and a kindergarten ish kid? park their car and start heading toward us. I was just paddling in for the day. Our dog needed "space" at that point in his life so we choose isolated beaches to go to. Well this kid is out running his parents towards me in the water and my girl and a big off leash dog. As they get closer I try to lock eyes with the kid and then the dad.
"Hey, we have a big dog off leash here you might wanna control your baby" is what I was thinking. but I had the broad smile on my face that happens after a sesh of catching some stoke
The kid could care less about the dog and the dog the same. Whew, The kid was running to me coming out of the water in my wetsuit. His dad yelled from behind him.
"He's infatuated with surfers!"
As dad approached I first noticed the logo on his fleece hoodie. Grateful Dead wear but certainly not the schwag in the parking lot. Even the official merch didn't measure up to what this kid's father was wearing.
I asked him "That's a nice hoodie where'd you get that?"
"Well, I used to work for the Band"
Me, Bulldog, Stef, Harry Poppick, his wife, and kid alone on a beach in California
Blubbering in front of fame I asked why was Bobby yelling at you at that one show I was at....
Kidding, I think I asked what he was working on and it was something interesting but I can't recall
maybe a Jackson Browne project
He was on his way north after taking his kid to Disneyland when his kid saw me surfing and yelled pull over.