Declare Martial Law?

scratch a fascist, find a republican. everytime.

Freedom means never losing an election?

Putin must run an incredibly free country.

Martial law? I trust our military leaders will haul Trump out of the White House instead 

If nobody is above the law then there is nothing to worry about. 

I was told that SDNY will have him in handcuffs any day now. 

Michael Flynn is relevant how?

He's still the highly-esteemed General Flynn to a lot of fringe types.

bunch of crazy keeping the crazies crazy

After Trump is out of office, the Biden Justice Dept can still charge Flynn for treason. I don't think Trump's pardon can save him from crime he later commits. 

Trump has made a lot of changes at the Defense Dept very recently.

Anyone been following that? Very strange.

Mike Flynn back-in-jail over/under:  90 Days

Come on, boys, and wager . . .

i think judge sullivan is gonna shred his pardon, leaving flynn vulnerable to prosecute for other crimes.

a treason charge might be too tall of a mtn to climb given our current political climate.

he is a treasonous bastard tho

>>> Come on, boys, and wager . . . <<<
 

listening to right now on sirius, lol

He put a bunch of crazies in charge...I'm not going to reprint the entire article, -- see it for details --  but the facts are the facts, even from CNN

Multiple civilian and military officials working inside the Pentagon are raising the question of whether the departure of Esper and other officials will now clear the way for Trump in his final weeks in office to potentially again call for initiatives he wants to pursue that the Pentagon opposes.

One would be again raising the specter of using active duty forces under the Insurrection Act against any future protests. Another potential raised by officials is he would override the military advice he has been given and bring troops home from Afghanistan by Christmas.

US military officials have long stressed that the US withdrawal from Afghanistan is conditions based, with those conditions including the Taliban's breaking its ties to al Qaeda and making progress in peace talks with the Afghan government, two conditions that have yet to be met.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/pentagon-policy-official-resigns...

>Trump has made a lot of changes at the Defense Dept very recently.

Anyone been following that? Very strange<

Beldar Orange County Lumber Truck on Tuesday, November 10, 2020 – 09:01 am

This may very well be another move in his plan to steal the election. He has Barr telling the DOJ to investigate the imaginary fraud.  Trump's going to need a defense secretary who is willing to use active duty military to silence the anticipated protests. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XFFh7-9lD0

Martial Law

"Are you political, Lou?"

>>> If the president doesn’t declare martial law, the statement retweeted by Flynn warns, “we will also have no other choice but to take matters into our own hands and defend our rights on our own.”

(What does that mean?)  <<<

i believe it's a dog whistle to trailer-park militias and q's from their recently pardoned disgraced general.

I never like to wish bad on anyone, so I will wish for Uncle Scam to have a medical situation leading to a coma indefinitely.  This will not only help end this madness, but potentially avoid his upcoming assassination.  That would be terrible and lead  to martyrdom.  

Meh.  Trump martyrdom would be just as phony as Trump. 

Cleetus might send Don Jr. a money order but he ain't gonna strap on and blow up the Piggly-Wiggly.

Trailer park militias are as dangerous as fantasy football leagues. 

They are chanting Lock Him Up for Georgia Governor Kemp now. These Republican Senators who think they can thread the needle on this are in for a big surprise. Dictators save their worst punishment for those closest to them. It sends a message. 

The pro-Trump attorney Lin Wood proclaimed near the end of a “Stop The Steal” rally in Georgia Tuesday that he had seen the “real” results of the 2020 election. 

“He won over 410 electoral votes,” Wood said, referring to President Donald Trump. “He damn near won every state including California!”...Both attorneys on stage agreed that voters should not participate in the upcoming runoff elections for U.S. Senate in Georgia — at least, not on communist-controlled voting machines. That dynamic threatens the Republicans’ chances for both Senate seats. 

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/stop-the-steal-rallies-now-feature-lo...

Trump has raised over $150 million dollars playing this very dangerous game. He and those making millions off this scheme aren't about to tone it down anytime soon. 

^^^ only if wearing jimmy buffet apparel.

>>>>trailer park militias are as dangerous as fantasy football leagues. 

Tend to agree with you, but it only takes one or two fools to cause a lot of carnage like in Oklahoma City or the Tree of Life Synagogue.

>>> Trump has raised over $150 million dollars playing this very dangerous game. He and those making millions off this scheme aren't about to tone it down anytime soon. <<<

he's banking on the cult, while shopping for the best media deal.

rupert won't pay him as much as his cult will

> but it only takes one or two fools to cause a lot of carnage like in Oklahoma City or the Tree of Life Synagogue.

fools that are likely to receive a Trump pardon. I trust the  FBI is doing their work to prevent domestic terrorists from heeding Trump's calls. Biden's Secret Service better be on their toes  also. 

>>>>trailer park militias are as dangerous as fantasy football leagues. 

>>>>Tend to agree with you, but it only takes one or two fools to cause a lot of carnage like in Oklahoma City or the Tree of Life Synagogue.<<<<
 

awesome ken 

thanks for the solid reminder

why?
 

Serial killers can kill multiple people with a knife and deranged people still have access to weapons but militias are just clubs for people who want to show off how they spent a months salary. They're not dangerous people. They just suck at everything else social. 

^ true

a cheerleader like flynn...

flynn the fluffer

^^^^^I can def. see Trump on the wing of Air Force One, holding on by his fingernails.

Noodler, your the best! :)

To change an amendment takes two thirds of the house and senate or two thirds of the state's legislatures as called on by a constitutional convention. 
 

Until then you will see regulated militia in the USA. That may not be such a bad thing if one day the federal government does obtain too much power and a dictator or king like president is trying to take over. Well regulated militia in that case is protected by law. Not that bad of an amendment, IMO.

If he pulls this bullshit

i will citizens arrest him

>>That may not be such a bad thing if one day the federal government does obtain too much power and a dictator or king like president is trying to take over.

What about if the militias act as vigilante police forces in support of a corrupt and power-hungry president?

In this day and age no militia can be a check and balance on a corrupt government. Our military could destroy them all in seconds. It's not 1776, when it was musket vs musket.

Since we are speaking in "what if's" I'll play, BK.

The police are also citizens just like the military and can join in a regulated militia so it could work either way.

And it really doesn't matter what year the constitution was written. In 2020, it takes two thirds of the house any senate to amend it or a constitutional convention in which two thirds of state legislatures approve it.

I thought you understood how our government works, BK?

Anybody know how big the largest regulated militia is? 

Yeah, I know it went over your head, but my "what if" is a current reality. You understand that, right? 

I'm well aware of the fact that we're not getting rid of the 2nd Amendment any time soon, and I understand why. I'm also aware that active police and military are also in "militias," whatever the fuck those are in the 21st century.

Jesus, you just want to make personal attacks. I responded to a point you made with nothing personal. I wasn't even putting down your point.

Go start your big Holiday thread.

It's not really a reality yet. 

Just because some guy tweets it on the internet doesn't make that reality.

What personal attack did I make, BK?

The same one you've now made a few times, chief.

I was just messing around, big guy. Can't we joke on this site anymore? Didn't mean any harm. 
 

Vaccine holiday thread coming later tonight. Have some popcorn ready

Bryen and some of  you fools might want a new flag.  Half confederate and half Nazi

god save the queen ( and the queer)

Though billed as a press conference, the event had the energy of a Trump rally, with tightly packed throngs of the president’s supporters — sporting significantly more MAGA hats than masks — waving flags and breaking into chants of “USA!” and “Lock him up!”

That slogan was directed at Georgia’s Republican governor, Brian Kemp, who was endorsed by Trump in 2018 and has been a strong supporter of the president, but has refused to intervene in the tabulating of results from his state’s election. The Republican secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, also a target of derision by Wood and Powell, has maintained that the state’s election was honest and fair.

But Wood — a personal-injury and libel lawyer who has never held elected office — exhorted the crowd that it may be “time to look beyond Republicans and Democrats.” He is not representing Trump or his campaign in court, and Powell, who had been part of the campaign’s legal team, no longer is. Wood insisted he isn’t trying to profit from his efforts for Trump, but an inadvertent clue to his plans might have slipped out when he solicited contributions to his “foundation,” a far-right organization that is helping to defend Kyle Rittenhouse, who is accused of killing two demonstrators at a protest in Kenosha, Wis., in August.

“You don’t have to vote for me,” Wood said, before correcting himself: “You don’t have to give me any money.”

The ad published by We the People Convention in Tuesday’s Washington Times highlights some of the extreme executive measures used by Abraham Lincoln at the start of the Civil War and suggests that Trump must take similarly drastic actions, arguing that “today, the current threat to the United States by the international and domestic socialist/communist left is much more serious than anything Lincoln or our nation has faced in its history — including the civil war.”

Later on, the letter returns to the divide over the election results and cites recent reports of record gun sales in the U.S., stating that, “without a fair vote, we fear, with good reason, the threat of a shooting civil war is imminent.”

Sidney Powell speaks at a “Stop the Steal” rally in Atlanta on Wednesday. (NTD via YouTube)

Though Wood and Powell also both promoted the call for martial law on their social media feeds, neither of them mentioned it directly at Wednesday’s rally. Still, they took the opportunity to regurgitate a host of unfounded conspiracy theories about the election and issued several less-than-subtle calls to action against a variety of figures they believe to be standing in the way of Trump’s second term, from state officials like Kemp and Raffensperger to FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General William Barr, who one day earlier become the latest (and most senior) administration official to dispute Trump’s baseless claims of election fraud. George Soros and the Chinese government also came in for some ritual nativist abuse.

“It’s 1776 in America again, and you’re not gonna take our freedom. We’re gonna fight for our liberty,” Wood declared.

Around the same time, the White House released a 46-minute video of what Trump called “maybe the most important speech I’ve ever made,” in which he rehashed all his unproven or disproven theories about election fraud. He did not, however, echo the call for martial law. He has said he will leave office on Jan. 20 if he is the loser after all the “legal” votes have been counted.

More than anything, Wednesday’s event called attention to the chasm between the Americans, including a growing number of Republican officials who’ve accepted that Biden won the Nov. 3 presidential election, and those who, following Trump, cling to an alternate version of reality.

Though not mentioned explicitly, the QAnon conspiracy theory also was part of the context.

Wood, whose Twitter bio includes the QAnon mantra “#WWG1WGA,” or “Where we go one, we go all,” espoused the kind of rhetoric often used by proponents of the pro-Trump conspiracy movement.

“This is the battle between good and evil,” he said.

Throughout the rally, Wood made several references to Flynn, a retired general who served Trump briefly as national security adviser and whose own embrace of Q-related content has made him something of a hero among QAnon followers.

At one point, he even seemed to tease the crowd by suggesting that Flynn might be about to take the stage (though he never appeared to do so), and later elicited cheers and applause by floating the idea of “Sidney Powell and Mike Flynn in 2024.” Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI during the overlapping investigations of Russian influence on the 2016 election, but he was pardoned in November by Trump.

“We’re going to fight like Flynn and make America great again,” Wood proclaimed, a thought that was echoed by another speaker, Georgia State Rep. Vernon Jones, a Black Democrat who endorsed Trump for reelection. “Georgia has a history of going into battle,” said Jones, perhaps inadvertently reminding the audience that its military history includes participation in the Civil War.

Powell, who first emerged on the far-right scene as part of Flynn’s legal defense team, has also used her platform to promote QAnon-related content. In the wake of the election, she has become a QAnon savior in her own right, as one of the more public faces behind the quixotic legal battle to undo the results of the presidential election.

Though Wood said, “We’re not here for violence,” even likening the movement to Martin Luther King Jr.’s message of civil disobedience, as Georgia election officials have already reportedly been the targets of violent threats from Trump supporters. At a press conference on Tuesday, Gabriel Sterling, the state’s voting system implementation manager and a Republican, admonished the president for refusing to concede the election, arguing that the continued promotion of false voter fraud claims would likely ultimately lead to violence.

“Someone is going to get hurt, someone is going to get shot, someone is going to get killed,” said Sterling. “This has to stop.”

>>>>In this day and age no militia can be a check and balance on a corrupt government. Our military could destroy them all in seconds.

You have never seen "Red Dawn" have you?   In all seriousness, tribal militias over in Afghanistan have been able to give the US military a run for its money going on 20 years now. Urban militias of the IRA were also able to fight the British army into a bloody stalemate during the "Troubles."

But yeah, if those militia fools ever try to go head to head to against the real military in a conventional fight, it would be over in minutes.

Most likely if there were any kind of real declaration of revolt from states with the government then the military would end up being divided to some extent. 

That being said, just like any kind of situation where it might look impossible there's always a chance that guerilla warfare outlast and wins if their was real organization. Like any wars, they are fought with oil. Whoever has the best sources will most likely prevail. Again, I think the well regulated militia isn't that bad of an amendment. People take it out of context and such and try to equate it with political affiliation but it was put into place for a reason. 
 

Confederate>>>
 

Oh, you mean the Democrats?

>>You have never seen "Red Dawn" have you?

WOLVERINES!

"We have half a billion Chinese on our side." "I thought there were a billion Chinese."

On the upside, I don't see half the country being willing to risk their lives for Trump.

^Agreed. It's all just click bait and media hype. Just trying to reel in people with the fear as always. 

americans are too comfortable to do anything that might make them miss the superbowl

Is "Red Dawn" available to watch on any platforms like Netflix or Amazon? Looking for a movie to watch today. Thanks in advance 

I think you can rent it on Amazon. The original is worth $2.99. The remake sucked ass.

LOL unless those militias have militarized drones they are going to get their asses kicked in a week. Just ask Armenia how their latest war went.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2020/11/10/the-magic-bullet-d...

^Cool.

Well regulated cyber war militias, bradi

Well the current supreme court would probably interpret the 2nd amendment to include militarized drones so there is something to look forward to.

Don't take away my right to drone arms.

I may want to stick an Ar on a drone and fly it around

Freedom, bradi

The best part of Red Dawn was the South Park episode where they put all the people over 40(?) in a prison camp.  Randy screaming 'Avenge me!  Avenge me!!!'  is classic tv.