"...Homeowners and real estate owners own all of it.
Sell everything and move..."
Interesting thought, but keep in mind you don't even "Own" your corpse. Houses and Real Estate need taxes paid to gov't 'OR ELSE'.
When you drop Dead, there's a Tax upon Death. Unless you go missing at Sea, or perish in an Earthquake.
The average cost of a funeral in the U.S. is $7,045 (according to the NFDA - National Association of Funeral Directors 2012), and this does not include any cemetery fees. This generally means that the full cost of a funeral can amount to nearer to $9,000 when cemetery fees are included. The cost for a traditional burial is largely dependent on the type of casket you select and the final cost of your cemetery plot and grave marker. The cost for a funeral can be broken down into several components – the funeral director’s professional service charges, casket, embalming, transportation and ancillary costs such as flowers, music, prayer cards, obituary etc.
Prices do vary between funeral services providers for the exact same service therefore It is recommended that you DO shop around and compare funeral prices. That way you can be sure that you have a “best value” funeral service.
All funeral homes in the Oregon area must have a general price list (GPL) that outlines their service charges and funeral merchandise prices. They must provide a copy of their GPL when they quote you a price according to the Federal Trade Commission’s ‘The Funeral Rule’.
How much does a cremation cost in Oregon?
A typical cremation funeral service will cost in the region of $3,000 (depending upon the ancillary services/products you select). This is the type of cremation service that replaces a full traditional funeral. It is possible to arrange a cremation for considerably less than this...."
Above is the aforementioned "Tax Upon Death" rules and regs, not including inheritance tax or such.
There is no "Tax Upon Death" in Oregon, D.Stu. I don't know if there is one anywhere else.
The figures you quote are not taxes, nor are they accurate. Your examples are limited in scope of what can take place.
OK, anyone can look up funeral Expenses, but there is a reasonable explanation above. Obviously you can find the best Price, if you like.
My view is that 'Feeding To The Sharks' or "Lost in Volcanic Activity" costs less than typical Funeral expenses. You figure out your favorite Encore, with minimal expense; let us know.
Also when a person drops Dead, there are Taxes upon the "Estate". The simplest way to explain it -- Jane Doe dies, has twenty Grand in the bank, then the State takes a percentage. Oregon is not the worst at that. NJ, Mass and CT states have a higher Death Tax than most.
Not even trying to be disingenuous here. When you drop Dead, there are still Taxes upon your Death and Estate. Even though you worked all your life and paid Taxes, then paid taxes on everything you bought, and the gasoline, and the Tolls...
There is still a Tax for your Death, actually Multiple Taxes.
First, as someone with experience in this matter, Stu, you are wrong. I am happy to explain it in another thread. Second, the reason I will explain it in another thread is that this is a loving and respectful thread in honor of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg and what you have posted seems to have no relevance.
F.O.M., I suspect the same. She was a formidable person, with enormous inner strength and focus. Pancreatic cancer is usually a very painful disease<<<
I can't even imagine the pain. I've never been one to say "RIP", but in this case I truly wish this to her and her spirit.
Along these lines, I don't believe it was a coincidence that John Adams and Thomas Jefferson died on the same day, July 4, 1826.
Perhaps their "work" was done and there weren't any "burdens" left, while I can only believe that RGB felt compelled to keep her form intact as long as possible as a finger in the dike.
As much as I wish she were are around if she were healthy, not only do I think would be selfish for us to wish she could've held out a little longer. It evades the responsibility we all share to do our part - however possible - to ensure this experiment has a fighting chance.
One can have certain land declared a cemetery by the County. I don't know all of the qualifications, but one of my closest friends did it for his wife's burial and he was subsequently buried there, too. The only requirement to be buried there once it was given cemetery status was that they have a toe tag in case identification is ever needed. As far as I know, there was no cost to have it declared a cemetery, just some paperwork.
In Eugene/Springfield cremation costs about $700 including a couple of long and short death certificates.
In Greg's case and what will be mine, too, there were no further expenses, taxes, payments to anyone of any sort. I'm posting this when I said I wouldn't because these small bits of info may clear up certain misconceptions.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 10:12 pm
This hurts, and is so sad.
This hurts, and is so sad. Damn.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 11:20 pm
Fuck every green party voter
RIP RBG
ps: green party voters own all of this shit since 2000.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 12:01 am
No they don't. They don't own
No they don't. They don't own shit. You own everything.
Homeowners and real estate owners own all of it.
Sell everything and move.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 12:19 am
"...Homeowners and real
"...Homeowners and real estate owners own all of it.
Sell everything and move..."
Interesting thought, but keep in mind you don't even "Own" your corpse. Houses and Real Estate need taxes paid to gov't 'OR ELSE'.
When you drop Dead, there's a Tax upon Death. Unless you go missing at Sea, or perish in an Earthquake.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 12:33 am
Tax upon death? I don't
Tax upon death? I don't remember that being the case, Stu. Please let me know what that is. Thanks.
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on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 12:46 am
I suspect the past year of
I suspect the past year of her life hurt her in unimaginable ways; likely willing herself to survive when her body was saying "no more".
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on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 12:52 am
F.O.M., I suspect the same.
F.O.M., I suspect the same. She was a formidable person, with enormous inner strength and focus. Pancreatic cancer is usually a very painful disease.
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on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 01:11 am
https://www.us-funerals.com
https://www.us-funerals.com/funeral-articles/funerals-and-cremations-in-...
"...What does an average funeral cost in Oregon?
The average cost of a funeral in the U.S. is $7,045 (according to the NFDA - National Association of Funeral Directors 2012), and this does not include any cemetery fees. This generally means that the full cost of a funeral can amount to nearer to $9,000 when cemetery fees are included. The cost for a traditional burial is largely dependent on the type of casket you select and the final cost of your cemetery plot and grave marker. The cost for a funeral can be broken down into several components – the funeral director’s professional service charges, casket, embalming, transportation and ancillary costs such as flowers, music, prayer cards, obituary etc.
Prices do vary between funeral services providers for the exact same service therefore It is recommended that you DO shop around and compare funeral prices. That way you can be sure that you have a “best value” funeral service.
All funeral homes in the Oregon area must have a general price list (GPL) that outlines their service charges and funeral merchandise prices. They must provide a copy of their GPL when they quote you a price according to the Federal Trade Commission’s ‘The Funeral Rule’.
How much does a cremation cost in Oregon?
A typical cremation funeral service will cost in the region of $3,000 (depending upon the ancillary services/products you select). This is the type of cremation service that replaces a full traditional funeral. It is possible to arrange a cremation for considerably less than this...."
Above is the aforementioned "Tax Upon Death" rules and regs, not including inheritance tax or such.
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on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 01:59 am
disco stu attempts to ruin
disco stu attempts to ruin another thread about politics. if i was admin he would be put in a 30 day and a required 1200 word written essay.
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on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 02:22 am
There is no "Tax Upon Death"
There is no "Tax Upon Death" in Oregon, D.Stu. I don't know if there is one anywhere else.
The figures you quote are not taxes, nor are they accurate. Your examples are limited in scope of what can take place.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 03:44 am
OK, anyone can look up
OK, anyone can look up funeral Expenses, but there is a reasonable explanation above. Obviously you can find the best Price, if you like.
My view is that 'Feeding To The Sharks' or "Lost in Volcanic Activity" costs less than typical Funeral expenses. You figure out your favorite Encore, with minimal expense; let us know.
Also when a person drops Dead, there are Taxes upon the "Estate". The simplest way to explain it -- Jane Doe dies, has twenty Grand in the bank, then the State takes a percentage. Oregon is not the worst at that. NJ, Mass and CT states have a higher Death Tax than most.
Not even trying to be disingenuous here. When you drop Dead, there are still Taxes upon your Death and Estate. Even though you worked all your life and paid Taxes, then paid taxes on everything you bought, and the gasoline, and the Tolls...
There is still a Tax for your Death, actually Multiple Taxes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 04:01 am
i will pray for you stu
i will pray for you
stu
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 04:05 am
First, as someone with
First, as someone with experience in this matter, Stu, you are wrong. I am happy to explain it in another thread. Second, the reason I will explain it in another thread is that this is a loving and respectful thread in honor of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg and what you have posted seems to have no relevance.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 04:20 am
https://www.everplans.com
https://www.everplans.com/articles/state-by-state-estate-and-inheritance...
There is some random article regarding the subject.
I don't know how accurate their story is.
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on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 08:45 am
<<<>>>ps: green party voters
<<<>>>ps: green party voters own all of this shit since 2000.
haha. this is awesome.
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on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 10:56 am
F.O.M., I suspect the same.
F.O.M., I suspect the same. She was a formidable person, with enormous inner strength and focus. Pancreatic cancer is usually a very painful disease<<<
I can't even imagine the pain. I've never been one to say "RIP", but in this case I truly wish this to her and her spirit.
Along these lines, I don't believe it was a coincidence that John Adams and Thomas Jefferson died on the same day, July 4, 1826.
Perhaps their "work" was done and there weren't any "burdens" left, while I can only believe that RGB felt compelled to keep her form intact as long as possible as a finger in the dike.
As much as I wish she were are around if she were healthy, not only do I think would be selfish for us to wish she could've held out a little longer. It evades the responsibility we all share to do our part - however possible - to ensure this experiment has a fighting chance.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 01:31 pm
Your face is now on earth FOM
Your face is now on earth FOM. well said
thank you Judit. Focus and respect.
I apologize on Stu's behalf, perhaps he can't help himself
RGB. Amazing, thank you for your sacrifice
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 04:15 pm
Estate tax in OR has a 1M
Estate tax in OR has a 1M threshold.
US estate tax kicks in at around 5 M.
Doubt you or I will ever have to worry about that.
Regarding funerals and such - folks can't be just planting the deceased anywhere they want, but cremations are usually available for a few hundred.
RIP Ruth.
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on Saturday, September 19, 2020 – 04:27 pm
One can have certain land
One can have certain land declared a cemetery by the County. I don't know all of the qualifications, but one of my closest friends did it for his wife's burial and he was subsequently buried there, too. The only requirement to be buried there once it was given cemetery status was that they have a toe tag in case identification is ever needed. As far as I know, there was no cost to have it declared a cemetery, just some paperwork.
In Eugene/Springfield cremation costs about $700 including a couple of long and short death certificates.
In Greg's case and what will be mine, too, there were no further expenses, taxes, payments to anyone of any sort. I'm posting this when I said I wouldn't because these small bits of info may clear up certain misconceptions.