Not peer reviewed and would tucker ever steer America wrong. Fits nicely into the gop/Putin propaganda, Trump is tough on china, Biden loves China, who makes trumps campaign items. Trump and Fox hopes this changes the current news cycle of trumps own words in woodwards book. I wonder why this lady wasn't on with Bret baker today
Tucker Carlson is so bad, his own mother hated him.
When she died, she left him $1, which is the ultimate Fuck You to someone.
People that do that are saying "I specificially dont want to give you one red cent"......but they designate $1 so the will cant be contested and the person cant claim they were forgotten.
Tucker Carlson spoke up after one of his top writers, Blake Neff, had posted racist and misogynist remarks over a long period on an online forum, AutoAdmit, That staffer resigned from Fox News, and the network’s top executives condemned his postings over the weekend. “We don’t endorse those words,” Carlson said. “They have no connection to the show. It is wrong to attack people for qualities they cannot control.” But he also chastised those who might take delight in the matter, criticizing “the ghouls now beating their chests” over “the destruction of a young man. When we pose as blameless in order to hurt other people, we are committing the gravest sin of all.”
Carlson has made disparaging remarks about immigrants and immigration. In August 2019 he stated that white supremacy wss a “hoax... actually not a real problem in America. It's a conspiracy theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power,". Tucker seems to enjoy making controversial statements. He said that Michael Vick should be "executed" for his mistreatment of dogs. He believes that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff is mentally ill. In December 2018, Carlson stated that immigrants would make this country "poorer and dirtier." He he wouldn't have voted to confirm Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan because he didn't find her attractive. He had also put forth the notion that women are "extremely primitive" and "just need to be quiet."
As for the effort to glorify his thoughts; while everyone knows he is both an adviser and supporter of the Don, is this the best team Don has to offer?
bry - are you talking about the interview with the chinese virologist claiming china made and intentionally released it? i cant tell what clips on youtube are from which broadcast dates. could be interesting, i doubt any of us have the knowledge to go over the study and make any kind of reasonable judgement...i tried for a bit, but no cigar, i am to dumb and im assuming all zoners are in the big dumb boat with me.
what seems almost more important right now, as it can be easily verified by folks without a phd, was the short piece he did on assange with left wing journalist and cofounder of the intercept glenn greenwald, because of the potentially dire consequences for freedom of the press involved in his prosecution.
kyle kulinski did a great piece dissecting the tucker/greenwald interview and listed all the ways in witch greenwald is attempting to speak directly to the president and appeal to his personal weaknesses in order to convince him to pardon both assange and snowden - greenwald references the "deep state" as an extension of the military industrial complex mentioned in eisenhowers farewell address, claims it is challenging the presidents power, and that it is this same "deep state" that wants to persecute assange and snowden for revealing negative things about them. mentions widespread public support for snowden and assange and claims the only folks who will be pissed about this are people like jim comey, james clapper and susan rice.
he knows trump often watches tucker, and watches hannity religiously, who comes of after tucker, and apparently the greenwald interview was the last piece on tuckers show that night before he handed it over to hannity.
for me watching tucker is a pretty confusing experience - one minute i will be 100% on board with what he is saying, cheering him on in my head, and literally minutes later im screaming at the tv calling him the dumbest fuck who ever lived.
his criticisms of the DNC are often pretty on point, as are some of his stuff on class issues and general populism.
id say i take him seriously about 60% of the time. do most folks here not have any conservative or libertarian friends or coworkers? sometimes in these threads it seems like they are all just treated as cartoonish boogeymen with nothing reasonable to say...well...newsflash! we need the right wing, we need the republicans...its the balance, or tug of war, between liberals and conservatives that allow society to progress, but not crumble into absurdity.
in the past couple months tho, tucker has lost alot of respect from me...it started with some of the covid stuff and once the george floyd protests started, tucker seemed to be in full crazy mode. i still find segments i like, such as the greenwald interview i posted above, but the common ground ive found with tucker has shrunk considerably over the past few months...same for ron paul. ive got alot of respect for ron paul but he went headfirst into the covid conspiracies from day 1 and i just can no longer bring myself to check in with him and the liberty report hardly at all anymore...i used to watch at least part of his broadcasts once or twice a week. his pieces on foreign policy are still pretty solid but its hard to take him seriously after he fully embraced the covid conspiracy stuff.
bryen - do you listen to bret weinstein or the darkhorse podcast at all? i feel like weinstein could be to you what tucker is, or maybe was, to me - someone who comes from the opposing political aisle, but sometimes makes points you agree with and overall seems like a sharp cookie that you could have a really fun conversation or debate with. bret is not 100% convinced that covid came from a lab, but he is very very suspicious that it may have, and he has done several podcasts exploring this possibility from his perspective as an evolutionary biologist...im expecting his next podcast to dive into the study discussed on tuckers show quite a bit, im pretty exited to hear his analysis, as weinstein is very firmly far outside of the big dumb boat i find myself in.
here is a pretty great piece from libertarian youtube channel/digital embodiment of john stossel's penis pump, reasontv called "can the republican party survive trump?" that compares our current situation to zachary taylor, the dissolution of the whig party, and the formation of the republican party that occoured in the mid 1800's, and the very end of the video takes a nice dive into weinstein and his unity 2020 proposal - the reason piece and weinsteins podcasts are pretty good stuff, i think you would enjoy them bry
Carlson: For four decades Phil Lesh has been playing music with Bob Weir and Bill Kreutzmann. For thirty of those years they were joined by Jerry Garcia in the Grateful Dead. It was one of the most innovative acts in American music. Evolving from Bay area acid rock to bluegrass and almost everything in between. As its bassist, Lesh may have been the band’s most musically adventurous member. I saw Phil Lesh play with the Dead more than 50 times, and when he came to Washington to talk about his memoir, Searching for the Sound, I interviewed him, unapologetically, as a fan.
For our viewers who aren’t as familiar with the Grateful Dead, one of the things that comes out in your really nicely written excellent book
Lesh: Thank you.
Carlson: Is how much you all toured.
Lesh: Yes.
Carlson: Give me an overview sense of the last 40 years.
Lesh: Well, we started out playing for dancers in the ballrooms of San Francisco in the late 1960’s, and that’s really what we’ve always thought of ourselves as, as a — essentially a dance band, a lot like the swing bands of the 1930’s and 1940’s. We always wanted to — we just wanted to play for more people. Because the way we thought of our music was as kind of a communion ritual, sort of we commune with each other and form what we thought of as a group mind. And that brings the music out and then we can transmit that to the audience and they send us energy back. And so that was the main reason we played music was to get that communion going and that sense of community.
Carlson: How would you describe Grateful Dead music? It seems to go all the way from acid rock to almost country. What is it?
Lesh: Well, it’s something that has — it’s a kind of music that has a wide range of influences in it. And so from the beginning, we wanted to try and blend and fuse, really, all of those influences. And so we consciously tried to look at the music as being texturally greater than the sum of the parts.
Carlson: Your early music was influenced by L.S.D. You have this amazing description of being at a show and somebody puts a bunch of acid in your orange juice and you get on stage. And you’re not sure what this device is in your hands.
It’s a bass, as it turns out, which you played.
Lesh: Yes.
Carlson: Did L.S.D. make the music better?
Lesh: It didn’t do that much to the music — it didn’t make anybody play better or worse. What it did was, fuse our minds together in a kind of telepathic manner that allowed us to — see the best part about making our kind of music is when the music is pretty much playing us and there’s no one there at all moving the fingers. That is to say we all subassume our identity in a sense in a greater whole. We call that — the group mind. That’s the tool that we use to open the valve to that pipeline which funnels that greater music down through us. Stravinski once said I am the vessel through which the music passes. In the case of the Grateful Dead, that’s also the case.
Carlson: The Grateful Dead, at least from the outside it appeared to be a libertarian spirit, a reluctance to tell other people what to do. It struck me as a kind of nonpolitical band at least from the outside. Other bands always lecturing you from the stage. No one from the Grateful Dead, the shows I went to, anyway, was lecturing you who to vote for. You’ve got this amazing line in the book, I want to read it to you, a show you played in 1966 in the panhandle of San Francisco, you said there was a Buddhist chant led by Alan Ginsburg. After that, poets read, bands played. We even had some leftist politicos ranting the only bring-down of the day.
Lesh: I’m referring to the human being there.
Carlson: Yeah. When all these bands became political, all the bands in your world, why did you all choose not to?
Lesh: Because we felt that what we were doing was more — I hate to use that word because it’s almost a cliche — religious. What we were doing was religious in the sense of the word, which means to bind together. We were trying to create a community of spirit with the music and the political harang and — again, it was just like a cop trying to tell people what to do, legislate morality or legislate private behavior. It was just anathema to us.
Carlson: But you have these wide-eyed fans who love you. Isn’t it tempting to send a message?
Lesh: The metaphor of the band cooperating and collaborating and being one organism, that’s the message.
Carlson: If it’s a religious movement, you have all these religous followers, what did you think of the Dead Heads?
Lesh: God bless their little pea-picking hearts, as my mother used to say. I’m going around now and doing book signings. In the past I’ve done blood drives. It is just the most wonderful experience to meet these Dead Heads face to face, just like you and I right here and shake a hand and get a smile and all everybody wants to do is say thank you. Thank you for changing my life.
Carlson: So you never thought that there were people taking it too seriously, devoting their lives to going on tour, for instance?
Lesh: Well, there was — yeah, people were doing that and I saw that, and I think we all did as the last great American adventure. You can’t hitchhike or run away with the circus or ride the rails anymore. Going on tour with the band, any band, really, is an adventure. There’s a little uncertainty, a little danger. Generally it’s a safe environment and you can extend yourself. You can explore other realities and still come back and tell the tale the next day.
Carlson: I was amazed to read that for all the touring you guys did, 30 years, almost full time, a lot of the time it seems like.
Lesh: Yes.
Carlson: You weren’t making a huge amount of money. Why?
Lesh: We started out — it’s strange. Up to a certain point before we had our big record in 1987, we weren’t really making that much money. We were supporting ourselves and we put everything into the general kitty. And the band and everyone else drew salaries. And pretty much, you know, cost of living salaries. They’d go up from time to time. And the idea was to put everything back into equipment and, you know, to increase — to enhance, rather, the experience and the technology of presenting the music.
Carlson: Why couldn’t you ever capture your sound in the studio?
Lesh: We — you know, I don’t think any of us ever believed it could be done. Because there’s just so much — there was just so much range to it. Not necessarily only dynamic range or — but there’s just so much emotional range to it and we just — we found ourselves in the studio always trying to tone it down, which really isn’t what we do. We’re not about turning it down. We’re about opening it up.
Carlson: I was impressed and amazed that you let people tape your shows with high-tech equipment. You’re best known for live touring. Your albums don’t sell as well as your concerts. You’re giving away the product. How does that work, and why was that a good business decision?
Lesh: It was a good business decision because we didn’t think of it as a business decision. It was that libertarian spirit, I think, that prompted it. It just started happening rather spontaneously. We started noticing microphone stands in the audience. We thought, OK, they’re taping the shows. It was first cassettes and digital audience tape and mini disk, and now it’s hard drive, I guess. But management came to us and said, well, we can’t let them do that and Jerry just stood right up and said, listen, after we’ve played it, we’re done with it. They can have it. Let them do whatever they want with it. We did ask them not to sell it, you know, just trade it. Give it away. That’s what happened. People would copy their tapes and give the copy to a friend or to a sibling or to a parent, even. And it was the smartest thing we ever did. It just —
Carlson: Really? Because I never —
Lesh: It disseminated the music.
Carlson: Yeah, but I never bought your albums when I was little. I just got tapes for free.
Lesh: We didn’t care. We only made the albums because it was maybe what we were supposed to do. You know, you make records. It brought in a little money, you know. It was interesting to play in the studio and see what could be done with it. But that wasn’t why — that wasn’t why we were playing music, to make records.
Carlson: You have this description in the book of Jerry Garcia in his later years staying home and building model trains and teaching his cat to fetch.
Lesh: I saw it with my own eyes.
Carlson: Were you surprised when he died? When Jerry Garcia died?
Lesh: I wasn’t surprised. I was shocked and saddened and, in fact, devastated, but I wasn’t surprised. Really, we’d all been waiting for this a long time. He’d been really sick in 1986, again in 1992. And he couldn’t seem to shake the habit. But to his eternal credit, he was really trying to turn it around when he died. He’d gone to Betty Ford. That hadn’t worked out for him. But right after that he came back and he checked himself in to another facility. Which — for rehab. And he clearly hoped that that was going to help. So — but it was — it was really hard to make the decision to tour at all, for me, because after Jerry’s death I didn’t really want to do it. I didn’t think I wanted to play music with anybody but him. He was the reason I joined the band in the first place.
Carlson: Phil Lesh. This is one of the best books I’ve read in a long time.
i would be open to tucker as part of an articles of unity type ticket where he runs with someone from the left as vp, or someone from the left runs w him as vp, dont think i could stomach straight up tucker
bry - do you even read the responses in the threads you post, or do you read them but are only interested in silently absorbing all the triggered insults? i thought you would be down to discuss tucker, libertarian shit and bret weinstein instead of just posting confusingly irrelevant tucker stuff
^ Some thoughts are best left unspoken. I hope that is some new concoction of cough syrup, DMT, menthol-benzene and fermented prosciutto that you've whipped up that is doin the talking
Well of course bry,, but who else here watches the filth that has divided this nation since its inception ? C'mon fess up,, I'll try not to name call,, just wana know who I'm dealing with. And would like to know if they realize they've chosen deception over reality.
All those talking heads that try to influence get on my nerve. I dont watch that primetime propaganda rhetorical fucking bullshit on the cable news channels.
I love how Cornell West got Tucker to agree with Democratic Socialism in about 45 seconds.
Pretty much the only time he has seemed reasonable in the last 5 years.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 08:45 pm
I’m sure you can come up with
I’m sure you can come up with one on your own
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mr. Sunshine State Earl
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 08:58 pm
Who's "our"?
Who's "our"?
I definitely don't qualify for "young".
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Denny dbmu1977
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 09:00 pm
https://www.thedailybeast.com
https://www.thedailybeast.com/steve-bannon-linked-groups-push-study-clai...?
Not peer reviewed and would tucker ever steer America wrong. Fits nicely into the gop/Putin propaganda, Trump is tough on china, Biden loves China, who makes trumps campaign items. Trump and Fox hopes this changes the current news cycle of trumps own words in woodwards book. I wonder why this lady wasn't on with Bret baker today
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 09:21 pm
...another significant broadcast
https://youtu.be/G6A72ufn3l4
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 09:26 pm
Tucker Carlson is so bad, his
Tucker Carlson is so bad, his own mother hated him.
When she died, she left him $1, which is the ultimate Fuck You to someone.
People that do that are saying "I specificially dont want to give you one red cent"......but they designate $1 so the will cant be contested and the person cant claim they were forgotten.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 09:32 pm
you definitely should dose
you definitely should dose him bry
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 10:16 pm
Viagra is a hell of a drug.
Viagra is a hell of a drug.
Can only imagine a cialas and Hannity posters on the wall.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 11:23 pm
https://youtu.be/TKAwPA14Ni4
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 11:38 pm
https://youtu.be/FJTg9hh-Z5c
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 11:42 pm
Tucker never recovered from
Tucker never recovered from getting buggered in a gang shower when he was in prep school.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 11:47 pm
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 01:13 am
When trees fall down,
When trees fall down,
after 18 months -
they become very dry.
No water flowing through.
They can explode.
The shitgibbon is like "Being There" on the brown acid.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dave Nycdave
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 01:50 am
Tucker Carlson spoke up after
Tucker Carlson spoke up after one of his top writers, Blake Neff, had posted racist and misogynist remarks over a long period on an online forum, AutoAdmit, That staffer resigned from Fox News, and the network’s top executives condemned his postings over the weekend. “We don’t endorse those words,” Carlson said. “They have no connection to the show. It is wrong to attack people for qualities they cannot control.” But he also chastised those who might take delight in the matter, criticizing “the ghouls now beating their chests” over “the destruction of a young man. When we pose as blameless in order to hurt other people, we are committing the gravest sin of all.”
Carlson has made disparaging remarks about immigrants and immigration. In August 2019 he stated that white supremacy wss a “hoax... actually not a real problem in America. It's a conspiracy theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power,". Tucker seems to enjoy making controversial statements. He said that Michael Vick should be "executed" for his mistreatment of dogs. He believes that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff is mentally ill. In December 2018, Carlson stated that immigrants would make this country "poorer and dirtier." He he wouldn't have voted to confirm Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan because he didn't find her attractive. He had also put forth the notion that women are "extremely primitive" and "just need to be quiet."
As for the effort to glorify his thoughts; while everyone knows he is both an adviser and supporter of the Don, is this the best team Don has to offer?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline Localcountyline
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 02:16 am
"Bryen" sure seems to think
"Bryen" sure seems to think so, Dave.
But now I'm convinced he really is just a sock puppet Russian troll, no one could be that gullible...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 02:20 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdGKTT7Oie8
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 03:54 am
You defiantly should dose
You defiantly should dose yourself. Fly Bry
you are amaze balls
Im a racist pig
Hating democrats the goal
Nothing else matters
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 03:56 am
Blow my mind. Blow me
Blow my mind. Blow me
down
~~~~~~~
The constitution
Debt death hate does not matter
Proud republicans
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 03:58 am
You sir are a moron
You sir are a moron
moron perhaps just evil. Or sick? Mentally insane
~~~~~~~
Only money counts
Health welfare subordinate
God bless GOP
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 03:59 am
Fools gold
Fools gold
for fools
~~~~~~
Science is for fools
Trump is smarter than all else
Republican curse
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on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 04:00 am
Take a long walk
Take a long walk
~~~~~
Climate change not real
money matters over all else
Vote your conscience
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 04:01 am
Off a VERY short pier
Off a VERY short pier
~~~~~
Climate Change a hoax
Russia Epstein rape as well
I am Donald trump
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 04:04 am
Into the penalty box for 6
Into the penalty box for 6 weeks
(is there a mental care facility nearby?)
~~~~~
Gangster leadership
Civil rights are not a right
Screw the little man
~. Would you give Putin a blow job too bye Bry?
Do you dream about a double header?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 07:06 am
Apologize for being a dick,
Apologize for being a dick, post a music thread no one replies to, post silly political nonsense that no one agrees with...
Rinse and repeat.
Yawn... maybe time to take a few months off the Zone to write your autobiography...your posts are boring.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 07:22 am
Hey look! Bry has his first
Hey look! Bry has his first job since swinging bunk doses on the Dead Co lot... he's gotta do something since tour shut down:
Pro-Trump youth group enlists teens in secretive campaign likened to a ‘troll farm,’ prompting rebuke by Facebook and Twitter
The Washington Post
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 12:40 pm
bry - are you talking about
bry - are you talking about the interview with the chinese virologist claiming china made and intentionally released it? i cant tell what clips on youtube are from which broadcast dates. could be interesting, i doubt any of us have the knowledge to go over the study and make any kind of reasonable judgement...i tried for a bit, but no cigar, i am to dumb and im assuming all zoners are in the big dumb boat with me.
what seems almost more important right now, as it can be easily verified by folks without a phd, was the short piece he did on assange with left wing journalist and cofounder of the intercept glenn greenwald, because of the potentially dire consequences for freedom of the press involved in his prosecution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrYN3e4sq8I
kyle kulinski did a great piece dissecting the tucker/greenwald interview and listed all the ways in witch greenwald is attempting to speak directly to the president and appeal to his personal weaknesses in order to convince him to pardon both assange and snowden - greenwald references the "deep state" as an extension of the military industrial complex mentioned in eisenhowers farewell address, claims it is challenging the presidents power, and that it is this same "deep state" that wants to persecute assange and snowden for revealing negative things about them. mentions widespread public support for snowden and assange and claims the only folks who will be pissed about this are people like jim comey, james clapper and susan rice.
he knows trump often watches tucker, and watches hannity religiously, who comes of after tucker, and apparently the greenwald interview was the last piece on tuckers show that night before he handed it over to hannity.
pretty good piece, i hope trump can be convinced
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 12:44 pm
(((((the big dumb boat)))))
(((((the big dumb boat)))))
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sigmund SeaMonster
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 01:01 pm
Fuckin climate denier !
Fuckin climate denier !
Fuckin pandemic denier !
Fuckin white nationalists !
Go on Bry-Bot
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on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 01:02 pm
subject line containing
subject line containing tucker carlson is an obvious troll hit job. even you can do better, bryen.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 01:31 pm
I can't take anyone seriously
I can't take anyone seriously who takes Tucker Carlson seriously.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 02:45 pm
for me watching tucker is a
for me watching tucker is a pretty confusing experience - one minute i will be 100% on board with what he is saying, cheering him on in my head, and literally minutes later im screaming at the tv calling him the dumbest fuck who ever lived.
his criticisms of the DNC are often pretty on point, as are some of his stuff on class issues and general populism.
id say i take him seriously about 60% of the time. do most folks here not have any conservative or libertarian friends or coworkers? sometimes in these threads it seems like they are all just treated as cartoonish boogeymen with nothing reasonable to say...well...newsflash! we need the right wing, we need the republicans...its the balance, or tug of war, between liberals and conservatives that allow society to progress, but not crumble into absurdity.
in the past couple months tho, tucker has lost alot of respect from me...it started with some of the covid stuff and once the george floyd protests started, tucker seemed to be in full crazy mode. i still find segments i like, such as the greenwald interview i posted above, but the common ground ive found with tucker has shrunk considerably over the past few months...same for ron paul. ive got alot of respect for ron paul but he went headfirst into the covid conspiracies from day 1 and i just can no longer bring myself to check in with him and the liberty report hardly at all anymore...i used to watch at least part of his broadcasts once or twice a week. his pieces on foreign policy are still pretty solid but its hard to take him seriously after he fully embraced the covid conspiracy stuff.
bryen - do you listen to bret weinstein or the darkhorse podcast at all? i feel like weinstein could be to you what tucker is, or maybe was, to me - someone who comes from the opposing political aisle, but sometimes makes points you agree with and overall seems like a sharp cookie that you could have a really fun conversation or debate with. bret is not 100% convinced that covid came from a lab, but he is very very suspicious that it may have, and he has done several podcasts exploring this possibility from his perspective as an evolutionary biologist...im expecting his next podcast to dive into the study discussed on tuckers show quite a bit, im pretty exited to hear his analysis, as weinstein is very firmly far outside of the big dumb boat i find myself in.
here is a pretty great piece from libertarian youtube channel/digital embodiment of john stossel's penis pump, reasontv called "can the republican party survive trump?" that compares our current situation to zachary taylor, the dissolution of the whig party, and the formation of the republican party that occoured in the mid 1800's, and the very end of the video takes a nice dive into weinstein and his unity 2020 proposal - the reason piece and weinsteins podcasts are pretty good stuff, i think you would enjoy them bry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19g95qtDc0Y
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, September 17, 2020 – 08:23 pm
What are we saying is the
What are we saying is the origin today? Was tucker duped?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: gypsy tailwind T.O.D.
on Thursday, September 17, 2020 – 09:31 pm
I'm not clicking that youtube
I'm not clicking that youtube shit
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Thursday, September 17, 2020 – 10:44 pm
whats wrong w youtube
whats wrong w youtube
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 12:29 am
Carlson: For four decades Phil Lesh has been playing music with Bob Weir and Bill Kreutzmann. For thirty of those years they were joined by Jerry Garcia in the Grateful Dead. It was one of the most innovative acts in American music. Evolving from Bay area acid rock to bluegrass and almost everything in between. As its bassist, Lesh may have been the band’s most musically adventurous member. I saw Phil Lesh play with the Dead more than 50 times, and when he came to Washington to talk about his memoir, Searching for the Sound, I interviewed him, unapologetically, as a fan.
For our viewers who aren’t as familiar with the Grateful Dead, one of the things that comes out in your really nicely written excellent book
Lesh: Thank you.
Carlson: Is how much you all toured.
Lesh: Yes.
Carlson: Give me an overview sense of the last 40 years.
Lesh: Well, we started out playing for dancers in the ballrooms of San Francisco in the late 1960’s, and that’s really what we’ve always thought of ourselves as, as a — essentially a dance band, a lot like the swing bands of the 1930’s and 1940’s. We always wanted to — we just wanted to play for more people. Because the way we thought of our music was as kind of a communion ritual, sort of we commune with each other and form what we thought of as a group mind. And that brings the music out and then we can transmit that to the audience and they send us energy back. And so that was the main reason we played music was to get that communion going and that sense of community.
Carlson: How would you describe Grateful Dead music? It seems to go all the way from acid rock to almost country. What is it?
Lesh: Well, it’s something that has — it’s a kind of music that has a wide range of influences in it. And so from the beginning, we wanted to try and blend and fuse, really, all of those influences. And so we consciously tried to look at the music as being texturally greater than the sum of the parts.
Carlson: Your early music was influenced by L.S.D. You have this amazing description of being at a show and somebody puts a bunch of acid in your orange juice and you get on stage. And you’re not sure what this device is in your hands.
It’s a bass, as it turns out, which you played.
Lesh: Yes.
Carlson: Did L.S.D. make the music better?
Lesh: It didn’t do that much to the music — it didn’t make anybody play better or worse. What it did was, fuse our minds together in a kind of telepathic manner that allowed us to — see the best part about making our kind of music is when the music is pretty much playing us and there’s no one there at all moving the fingers. That is to say we all subassume our identity in a sense in a greater whole. We call that — the group mind. That’s the tool that we use to open the valve to that pipeline which funnels that greater music down through us. Stravinski once said I am the vessel through which the music passes. In the case of the Grateful Dead, that’s also the case.
Carlson: The Grateful Dead, at least from the outside it appeared to be a libertarian spirit, a reluctance to tell other people what to do. It struck me as a kind of nonpolitical band at least from the outside. Other bands always lecturing you from the stage. No one from the Grateful Dead, the shows I went to, anyway, was lecturing you who to vote for. You’ve got this amazing line in the book, I want to read it to you, a show you played in 1966 in the panhandle of San Francisco, you said there was a Buddhist chant led by Alan Ginsburg. After that, poets read, bands played. We even had some leftist politicos ranting the only bring-down of the day.
Lesh: I’m referring to the human being there.
Carlson: Yeah. When all these bands became political, all the bands in your world, why did you all choose not to?
Lesh: Because we felt that what we were doing was more — I hate to use that word because it’s almost a cliche — religious. What we were doing was religious in the sense of the word, which means to bind together. We were trying to create a community of spirit with the music and the political harang and — again, it was just like a cop trying to tell people what to do, legislate morality or legislate private behavior. It was just anathema to us.
Carlson: But you have these wide-eyed fans who love you. Isn’t it tempting to send a message?
Lesh: The metaphor of the band cooperating and collaborating and being one organism, that’s the message.
Carlson: If it’s a religious movement, you have all these religous followers, what did you think of the Dead Heads?
Lesh: God bless their little pea-picking hearts, as my mother used to say. I’m going around now and doing book signings. In the past I’ve done blood drives. It is just the most wonderful experience to meet these Dead Heads face to face, just like you and I right here and shake a hand and get a smile and all everybody wants to do is say thank you. Thank you for changing my life.
Carlson: So you never thought that there were people taking it too seriously, devoting their lives to going on tour, for instance?
Lesh: Well, there was — yeah, people were doing that and I saw that, and I think we all did as the last great American adventure. You can’t hitchhike or run away with the circus or ride the rails anymore. Going on tour with the band, any band, really, is an adventure. There’s a little uncertainty, a little danger. Generally it’s a safe environment and you can extend yourself. You can explore other realities and still come back and tell the tale the next day.
Carlson: I was amazed to read that for all the touring you guys did, 30 years, almost full time, a lot of the time it seems like.
Lesh: Yes.
Carlson: You weren’t making a huge amount of money. Why?
Lesh: We started out — it’s strange. Up to a certain point before we had our big record in 1987, we weren’t really making that much money. We were supporting ourselves and we put everything into the general kitty. And the band and everyone else drew salaries. And pretty much, you know, cost of living salaries. They’d go up from time to time. And the idea was to put everything back into equipment and, you know, to increase — to enhance, rather, the experience and the technology of presenting the music.
Carlson: Why couldn’t you ever capture your sound in the studio?
Lesh: We — you know, I don’t think any of us ever believed it could be done. Because there’s just so much — there was just so much range to it. Not necessarily only dynamic range or — but there’s just so much emotional range to it and we just — we found ourselves in the studio always trying to tone it down, which really isn’t what we do. We’re not about turning it down. We’re about opening it up.
Carlson: I was impressed and amazed that you let people tape your shows with high-tech equipment. You’re best known for live touring. Your albums don’t sell as well as your concerts. You’re giving away the product. How does that work, and why was that a good business decision?
Lesh: It was a good business decision because we didn’t think of it as a business decision. It was that libertarian spirit, I think, that prompted it. It just started happening rather spontaneously. We started noticing microphone stands in the audience. We thought, OK, they’re taping the shows. It was first cassettes and digital audience tape and mini disk, and now it’s hard drive, I guess. But management came to us and said, well, we can’t let them do that and Jerry just stood right up and said, listen, after we’ve played it, we’re done with it. They can have it. Let them do whatever they want with it. We did ask them not to sell it, you know, just trade it. Give it away. That’s what happened. People would copy their tapes and give the copy to a friend or to a sibling or to a parent, even. And it was the smartest thing we ever did. It just —
Carlson: Really? Because I never —
Lesh: It disseminated the music.
Carlson: Yeah, but I never bought your albums when I was little. I just got tapes for free.
Lesh: We didn’t care. We only made the albums because it was maybe what we were supposed to do. You know, you make records. It brought in a little money, you know. It was interesting to play in the studio and see what could be done with it. But that wasn’t why — that wasn’t why we were playing music, to make records.
Carlson: You have this description in the book of Jerry Garcia in his later years staying home and building model trains and teaching his cat to fetch.
Lesh: I saw it with my own eyes.
Carlson: Were you surprised when he died? When Jerry Garcia died?
Lesh: I wasn’t surprised. I was shocked and saddened and, in fact, devastated, but I wasn’t surprised. Really, we’d all been waiting for this a long time. He’d been really sick in 1986, again in 1992. And he couldn’t seem to shake the habit. But to his eternal credit, he was really trying to turn it around when he died. He’d gone to Betty Ford. That hadn’t worked out for him. But right after that he came back and he checked himself in to another facility. Which — for rehab. And he clearly hoped that that was going to help. So — but it was — it was really hard to make the decision to tour at all, for me, because after Jerry’s death I didn’t really want to do it. I didn’t think I wanted to play music with anybody but him. He was the reason I joined the band in the first place.
Carlson: Phil Lesh. This is one of the best books I’ve read in a long time.
Lesh: Thank you.
Carlson: Searching for the Sound.
Lesh: Thank you. Good to be here.
Tucker Carlson: Unfiltered - Season 1
Aired Friday, 9:30 PM, May 06, 2005 on PBS.
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 12:43 am
[Edit] Lesh: I’m referring to
[Edit] Lesh: I’m referring to the human "be-in" there.
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 12:43 am
classic
classic
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 12:48 am
http://carlson2024.com/
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 01:05 am
Bryen supports the forced
Bryen supports the forced sterilization of immigrant women
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 01:08 am
i would be open to tucker as
i would be open to tucker as part of an articles of unity type ticket where he runs with someone from the left as vp, or someone from the left runs w him as vp, dont think i could stomach straight up tucker
bry - do you even read the responses in the threads you post, or do you read them but are only interested in silently absorbing all the triggered insults? i thought you would be down to discuss tucker, libertarian shit and bret weinstein instead of just posting confusingly irrelevant tucker stuff
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 01:10 am
id let bryen remove my uterus
id let bryen remove my uterus, just the thought of it has me wetter than ben shapiro's wife's p-word
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 08:38 am
^ Some thoughts are best left
^ Some thoughts are best left unspoken. I hope that is some new concoction of cough syrup, DMT, menthol-benzene and fermented prosciutto that you've whipped up that is doin the talking
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 09:20 am
Well of course bry,, but who
Well of course bry,, but who else here watches the filth that has divided this nation since its inception ? C'mon fess up,, I'll try not to name call,, just wana know who I'm dealing with. And would like to know if they realize they've chosen deception over reality.
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 09:25 am
^^^even Fox is reporting now
^^^even Fox is reporting now that it’s origin has a likely scientifically explained pinpoint
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/health/where-coronavirus-or...
cool story bry
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 09:58 am
<<<>>>I can't take anyone
<<<>>>I can't take anyone seriously who takes Tucker Carlson seriously.
what about maddow?
same, right?
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 10:22 am
I think we have a very strong
I think we have a very strong candidate for post of the year here:
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 10:36 am
All those talking heads that
All those talking heads that try to influence get on my nerve. I dont watch that primetime propaganda rhetorical fucking bullshit on the cable news channels.
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on Friday, September 18, 2020 – 10:51 am
I love how Cornell West got