Jonathan Turley’s Stating of the Obvious [Russia Scam Update 7.27.2020

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     I'm curious to what might be the sincere and thoughtful reactions to these truths by the collective that was once thought of as the best & brightest of the psychedelic revolution...please & thank you.

 

     

 

 

July 25, 2020 

 

BY JONATHAN TURLEY

More willful blindness by the media on spying by Obama administration

The Washington press corps seems engaged in a collective demonstration of the legal concept of willful blindness, or deliberately ignoring the facts, following the release of yet another declassified document which directly refutes prior statements about the investigation into Russia collusion. The document shows that FBI officials used a national security briefing of then candidate Donald Trump and his top aides to gather possible evidence for Crossfire Hurricane, its code name for the Russia investigation.

It is astonishing that the media refuses to see what is one of the biggest stories in decades. The Obama administration targeted the campaign of the opposing party based on false evidence. The media covered Obama administration officials ridiculing the suggestions of spying on the Trump campaign and of improper conduct with the Russia investigation. When Attorney General William Barr told the Senate last year that he believed spying did occur, he was lambasted in the media, including by James Comey and others involved in that investigation. The mocking “wow” response of the fired FBI director received extensive coverage.

The new document shows that, in summer 2016, FBI agent Joe Pientka briefed Trump campaign advisers Michael Flynn and Chris Christie over national security issues, standard practice ahead of the election. It had a discussion of Russian interference. But this was different. The document detailing the questions asked by Trump and his aides and their reactions was filed several days after that meeting under Crossfire Hurricane and Crossfire Razor, the FBI investigation of Flynn. The two FBI officials listed who approved the report are Kevin Clinesmith and Peter Strzok.

Clinesmith is the former FBI lawyer responsible for the FISA surveillance conducted on members of the Trump campaign. He opposed Trump and sent an email after the election declaring “viva the resistance.” He is now under review for possible criminal charges for altering a FISA court filing. The FBI used Trump adviser Carter Page as the basis for the original FISA application, due to his contacts with Russians. After that surveillance was approved, however, federal officials discredited the collusion allegations and noted that Page was a CIA asset. Clinesmith had allegedly changed the information to state that Page was not working for the CIA.

Strzok is the FBI agent whose violation of FBI rules led Justice Department officials to refer him for possible criminal charges. Strzok did not hide his intense loathing of Trump and famously referenced an “insurance policy” if Trump were to win the election. After FBI officials concluded there was no evidence of any crime by Flynn at the end of 2016, Strzok prevented the closing of the investigation as FBI officials searched for any crime that might be used to charge the incoming national security adviser.

Documents show Comey briefed President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden on the investigation shortly before the inauguration of Trump. When Comey admitted the communications between Flynn and Russian officials appeared legitimate, Biden reportedly suggested using the Logan Act, a law widely seen as unconstitutional and never been used to successfully convict a single person, as an alternative charge against Flynn. The memo contradicts eventual claims by Biden that he did not know about the Flynn investigation. Let us detail some proven but mostly unseen facts.

First, the Russia collusion allegations were based in large  part on the dossier funded by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. The Clinton campaign repeatedly denied paying for the dossier until after the election, when it was confronted with irrefutable evidence that the money had been buried among legal expenditures. As New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman wrote, “Folks involved in funding this lied about it and with sanctimony for a year.”

Second, FBI agents had warned that dossier author Christopher Steele may have been used by Russian intelligence to plant false information to disrupt the election. His source for the most serious allegations claims that Steele misrepresented what he had said and that it was little more than rumors that were recast by Steele as reliable intelligence.

Third, the Obama administration had been told that the basis for the FISA application was dubious and likely false. Yet it continued the investigation, and then someone leaked its existence to the media. Another declassified document shows that, after the New York Times ran a leaked story on the investigation, even Strzok had balked at the account as misleading and inaccurate. His early 2017 memo affirmed that there was no evidence of any individuals in contact with Russians. This information came as the collusion stories were turning into a frenzy that would last years.

Fourth, the investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller and inspectors general found no evidence of collusion or knowing contact between the Trump campaign and Russian officials. What inspectors general did find were false statements or possible criminal conduct by Comey and others. While unable to say it was the reason for their decisions, they also found statements of animus against Trump and his campaign by the FBI officials who were leading the investigation. Former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein testified he never would have approved renewal of the FISA surveillance and encouraged further investigation into such bias.

Finally, Obama and Biden were aware of the investigation, as were the administration officials who publicly ridiculed Trump when he said there was spying on his campaign. Others, like House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, declared they had evidence of collusion but never produced it. Countless reporters, columnists, and analysts still continue to deride, as writer Max Boot said it, the spinning of “absurd conspiracy theories” about how the FBI “supposedly spied on the Trump campaign.”

Willful blindness has its advantages. The media covered the original leak and the collusion narrative, despite mounting evidence that it was false. They filled hours of cable news shows and pages of print with a collusion story discredited by the FBI. Virtually none of these journalists or experts have acknowledged that the collusion leaks were proven false, let alone pursue the troubling implications of national security powers being used to target the political opponents of an administration. But in Washington, success often depends not on what you see but what you can unsee.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. You can find his updates online @JonathanTurley.

 

 


     ^ the brilliant discussion I expected 

 

 

     PROVE

 

     ME

 

     WRONG

 

 

 

 

 

     It wasn't that long ago when 99% of the Viva Community was absolutely brainwashed with the Russia Scam, it's a searchable database, look it up!

There was enough contacts with Russians by the Trump campaign to warrant an investigation. Turley looks at these things from a very narrow prospective of the law. It's the same theory lawyers use to get mobsters off. Hell, it took how many times before they convicted Gotti.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/what-the-mueller-report-says-about-rus...

The contact with all of those Russians were no hoax. Why try to defend that. Those contacts happened.

 

 

 

 

bryen, we are all bored with your bonehead qanon topics from non vetted news sources. now fuck off. why don't you hang out with more cult members instead of us?


 

 

 

 

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Another flaming bag of poop left on the doorstep. It will lead to the same result - nothing. Take care Bry, and please remember to take your meds. Adios.

A couple of decorations for your thread before I go.  

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     In all seriousness, it would be as refreshing as a cool mountain stream on a warm July day to have one, just one, Viva la Zoner admit they were led astray in regards to the Russia Scam, but alas, that is as likely to happen as a Viva la Zoner having travelled to see Garcia play guitar beyond their convenience...such are the truths of life.

 


 

Really? Insert your face/hair/clothes, Bryen. The poor horse.

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    ^ Is that an admittance?  Asking for a friend, thanks

Great, another thread on the same subject, how many have there been now...  because he found an opinion piece, LMAO!!!

Bryen, please read the 2nd half of the Mueller report, thanks...   the group has posted in your threads for years now, so far our facts are overwhelming to your personal already vetted suspicions / agenda...   

 

So treasonous how ALL of our foreign policy has been designed to benefit Russia, though abandoning our treaties with the Kurds led to the kind of atrocities you should be against, but it's always crickets when wrong doing with your traitorous cult-like god is concerned...  

I didn't vote for Hillary, but I doubt she'd have let the Saudi's slaughter the Yemenis over the last 3 years, I imagine you support those crimes against humanity too...  

Nor allow bounties put on US soldiers in Afghanistan to go unpunished, Tdump won't even use strong language...

 

I just hope those PP tapes are released after his humiliating defeat this fall...   perfect fall for a mobster egomaniac before he goes to jail


     History will judge...you're absolutely mistaken as I'm sure you realize, it will be interesting to observe how you react to that dynamic, I doubt well.  In some regards I will need convincing it's even of the slightest bit of importance to you...as if that were ever the goal...right or wrong was so ten years ago.

 

 

 

 

 

     Oh by the way...you'll never get an intelligent response to Jonathan Turley's article.

History will point out the fascist sympathizers

Jonathon Turley, the cat from Seinfeld and the dog show commentator? 


 

 

 

 

     If any of you ever wondered how you were so cleverly duped by the Jake Tappers and Rachael Maddows of this world, please read Jonathan's article...it will provide a semblance of logic as to how vivalazone.org went so astray over the last 3.5 years...you're welcome!

 

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i do love you

and feel sorry for you

 

perhaps[s if you clean your record, it would stop skipping

 

idiocy idiocy idiocy idiocy idiocy idiocy

go take a peter green dose of your medicine, 

mental illness is nothing to joke about

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well

I hope republicans        do something

From Jake Tapper, CNN:

“I have no forgiveness left for the Republican party.

We all knew. When he first rode that golden escalator to a paid crowd to announce his candidacy, we knew. His speech tinged with racism and misogyny was only a precursor of what was to come.

He told us who he was.

The Republicans have been sucked into the black hole of Trumpism and they are pulling the nation into the abyss. Silent, passive, weak.

While I blame him, I hold most of my contempt for the Republican Party, they had the power to stop him, but didn't.

They have the power to reign him in, but won't.

They stand on the sidelines flush with power and watch him destroy our democratic norms. They watch him violate the Constitution they all swore an oath to defend.

Today in the United States, children are torn from their parents' arms to languish in squalid conditions, caged, alone and afraid. Families remain in a semi-permanent limbo arrested and unable to seek redress.

Today in the United States at least 70,000 Americans will be diagnosed with Covid19. On July 17 it was 74,987, nearly 3 times the number diagnosed only a month ago on June 17 when it was 26,257. The death toll now tops 140,000 and projections are that a quarter of a million Americans will likely be dead by 11/1/2020. Just days before the election. We still lack adequate PPE, we still have inadequate testing, hospitals in some areas are running out of ICU beds, the data is being subverted, a document produced by the task force that shows 18 "red zones" was withheld, witnesses are not being allowed to testify, and the Republicans remain silent.

We have watched Trump abandon our allies leaving the Kurds to be slaughtered by Turkish forces. We just learned he has no interest in challenging Putin over the bounties and murder of our own Troops, and the Republicans remain silent.

An acting director of DHS, acting commissioner of CBP, and acting head of Immigration and Naturalization have unleashed an unmarked, unidentified, paramilitary force on the city of Portland. Their mission to abduct and terrorize "Violent Anarchists" who have committed the act of graffiti on federal buildings. They do this with the blessing of the DOJ under a bizarre Executive Order expanding the role of the FPS to protect "monuments", and Republicans remain silent.

We witnessed the murder of an unarmed black man under the knee of a sadistic police officer. Protests over police brutality were met by police brutality. Police insisting that they are above the law and will not be called to account for their actions. As the list of senseless and cruel deaths at the hands of police grows, the administration has sided with the police and the Republicans have offered nothing but "incentives" to stem the genocide.

He is destroying the USPS, putting it in the hands of a wealthy donor who has already ordered service to be "slowed down".

He has instructed the DOJ to negotiate away protections for people with pre-existing conditions making their health insurance unobtainable.

He is destroying Voice of America to create his own propaganda machine within the Federal Government.

He teargassed and shot rubber bullets at peaceful protesters, including the Priests at St. Johns to do a photo op.

Eliminating Trump is not enough every Republican that has remained silent and enabled this must be voted from office.

Their silence is criminal.

Their silence enables him.

Their silence destroys what made America great in the first place.

The list is endless, but the silence of the Republican party is deafening, and I will never forgive them or the people who continue to support them.

May we all get to November 3 and vote in such overwhelming numbers we destroy Trumpism forever, before it destroys us.”

 

As I hope non republicans do the right thing-- regardless of their frustrations and the "lack of activism", and focusing on "flaws"   to not vote for Biden - is a vote for Trump- agree or disagree as you will,   we are governed today by a two party system

 

best of luck with your vision / journey Bryen

 


 

 

 

 

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       ^   Idiocy not withstanding...It's always interesting to hear Phil discuss music...Jerry must have thoroughly enjoyed Phil's thoughts


           

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        * in attendance 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

     I'd be remiss if I didn't mention my love for this woman...I traveled from Louisville to Kansas City thinking we had achieved a true connection, but alas...it wasn't to be, which was one of the great nights of my life...the understanding we wouldn't be dating...it was somewhat beautiful, the beauty being the woman as an artist...I understood quickly upon the beginning of the concert that the vibrations I felt which may or may not have been genuine in Louisville were probably not existent in Kansas City, but it was one of the most beautiful shows of my life nonetheless...the Lord works in mysterious ways.

 

 

     I have rarely been as high.

 

     

 

I am he
As you are he
As you are me
And we are all together

See how they run
Like pigs from a gun
See how they fly
I'm crying

Sitting on a cornflake
Waiting for the van to come
Corporation tee shirt
Stupid bloody Tuesday
Man, you been a naughty boy
You let your face grow long

I am the eggman (Ooh)
They are the eggmen, (Ooh)
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob

Mister city p'liceman sitting pretty
Little p'licemen in a row
See how they fly
Like Lucy in the sky
See how they run
I'm crying
I'm crying, I'm crying, I'm crying

Yellow matter custard
Dripping from a dead dog's eye
Crabalocker fishwife pornographic priestess
Boy you been a naughty girl
You let your knickers down

I am the eggman (Ooh)
They are the eggmen (Ooh)
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob

Sitting in an English
Garden waiting for the sun
If the sun don't come
You get a tan from standing in the English rain

I am the eggman
They are the eggmen
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob g' goo goo g' joob

Expert texpert choking smokers
Don't you think the joker laughs at you?
See how they smile
Like pigs in a sty, see how they snied
I'm crying

Semolina pilchards
Climbing up the Eiffel Tower
Element'ry penguin singing Hare Krishna
Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allan Poe

I am the eggman (Ooh)
They are the eggmen (Ooh)
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob
Goo goo g' joob
G' goo goo g' joob
Goo goo g' joob, goo goo g' goo g' goo goo g' joob joob
Joob joob...

 

 

 

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     ...as an aside, that evening in Louisville, she sang a Ryan Adams tune about Kentucky...that was kind of the moment I thought we connected, I went to a hotel named "The Brown" and drank large amounts of whatnot then proceeded to travel to Kansas City because I thought there may be an inkling of a chance we were in love...it was a beautiful day driving across America, when I arrived in Kansas City with no plan to be there I was immediately met with psychedelics, it was one of the most beautiful nights of my life on Earth!

 

 

 

Burnz from DOWNTOWN!  

 

(swish)

 

 


 

 

     I've seldom been so enamored with a woman...I had an interesting discussion and left a note with her chauffeur and everything, I was of the impression we truly connected...I realize that seems extreme, I was truly in love with the spirit that was Joan...enough to travel to the Starlight Ampitheatre with absolutely no plans to do so, I thought I owed it to our possible relationship, I arrived, parked my car and was immediately styled on large amounts...it didn't take long until I realized Joan was not in love with me, upon realizing that I had one of the most beautiful nights of my life :)

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     As an aside, I still have a card from the Palace Theater...I approached the box office the next day and explained that I fell in love with Joan Osborne the night before and could they possibly provide me with a card I could write to her someday...sure enough they gave me a card, it's an amazing theater...it's like Walt Disney created a theatre for musical endeavors...anyways, I still have that card, I should someday write "When you sang "My Sweet Carolina" in Louisville, the entire world fell hopelessly in love with you."

 

 

 

 

 

     By the way...it seems you can't easily find a recording of that night's amazement, in hindsight I probably would have been a good match.

 

     

 

 

     


 

 

 

 

     
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          The Peaceful Valley was one of the most beautiful things I've ever witnessed, but by the end of the tune I realized our love was just an illusion.


     The moment I fell hopelessly in love with Joan Osborne, enough to drive across a large section of America 

 

     

     
     
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     ^ it was the "Sweet Carolina" encore...I was mesmerized, it was one of the most beautiful things I've ever witnessed...when she sang about Kentucky [her birthplace] I was in love...it was her birthday.


 

 

     Funny story...I had a brand new Prius with a cloth interior, after hanging with "Drunk & High Dave" and his crew at the hotel after the Kansas City show I drove East, it was 95* degrees, and I saw this guy on the side of the road, so I stopped...all of the sudden his dog came out of the woods, he was an elder from the Rainbow Family, which was of course completely groovy, we had a lot of fun and whatnot, I drove him all the way to just shy of the east coast, fed him and gave him a small amount of currency, and he was a wonderful person, it was a great journey, my brand new interior was slightly less aromatic...but if I had it to do all over again I certainly would, nothing a few sticks of Nag Champa wouldn't fix!

Trump is 100% compromised by Putin.

 

How would he act differently if he was told to dismantle the country, make us weak and diminish our standing in the world?

 

There's not much that would change from how he is going about things now.

35 posts - 19 from Bry.

Lol.


 

Russian bounties on American soldiers
 

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Joan just like everyone else you know Hates You.

 

You think you're the Eggman but you' are really just a Cunt-Bot !


 

 

 

 

     Any idiot...and I'm not saying you guys specifically, but any idiot could go to their Biden Facebook group and pull cartoons, it would require actual thoughtful discussion and intellectual fortitude to opine on Jonathan Turley's article [and believe me...it's being discussed in other venues] but that would also require an admission of being on the wrong side of history or in effect being completely brainwashed by the Jake Tappers and Rachael Maddows of this world...I'll leave it to those with psychology degrees to explain why that could never happen.

 

 

 

 >>>>>that would also require an admission of being on the wrong side of history or in effect being completely brainwashed 

 

That's you, Bry.

 

What kind of a treasonous puke supports using Russian intelligence against American elections?

 

What kind of person helps Russian Intelligence interfere with our elections?

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Bryen on Sunday, July 19, 2020 – 11:48 am


     I realize many of you have allowed the Russia mythology to morph into a quasi-belief system, and as that deceptive spoon-fed reality gradually evaporates into the ether different people will react differently, that's to be expected, some will obviously lash out at the messenger, and that's ok.

 

Oh, the irony.

Who's immersed in this "mythology" more than you, Byren? Not one person here keeps posting about Trump/Russia more than you. We all see what happened, and it's a glass half full versus half empty; both are correct, yet completely opposite points of view. Trump is the true definition of the Useful Idiot. And, by default, you have become one, as well. Sad.

It's clear that Bryen has an (ironic) case of Trump Derangement Syndrome, which is usually only experienced by Trump's detractors.

the embedded little music video is worth one minute of your life (turn the sound on):

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1287894528888897537

>>> How would he act differently if he was told to dismantle the country, make us weak and diminish our standing in the world?

good point.  

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Keep digging "Bry". You're almost there!!!!!

Hahahahaha Trump is making this country SO GREAT, huh "Bry"?

But, but Biden..........and Hilary!!!!

The Republican's coronavirus relief bill allocates $7 billion for weapons, including, "money for fighter jets, helicopters, radars, ships and armored vehicles"

Let's go back in time...

B: Whaaaat? "One of Us" isn't about your undying love for me, a delusional, gullible hippie boy who lives in a his car? But, but, you looked in my general direction when you sang it. I'm super bummed 'cause I just weaved you a ring outta Russian cigarette butts and scored some hits for us for after the show. We can drink cheap vodka and make love in Crazy Dave's bathtub.

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​J: Sorry little tour rat. Scamper back to your bus. Unfortunately, I foresee a future where you constantly fall madly in love for no rational reason but eventually realize you are chasing an illusion, over and over again. Me, dead musicians, Presidents, even. Besides, everyone knows I only bang keyboard players.​

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B: Ok then. But one last thing.... Can you spare some gas money?​

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