Lot of rumblings that Graham, McConnell, and others will try -- after labor day -- to push Trump not to seek re-election. It makes rebuke today of Trump's NASCAR/Bubba Wallace attack even more intriguing.
Like Santa Claus, Trump has somehow managed to come through with lots of things on the GOP wish list, like a huge corporate tax break, widespread roll back on government regulations, and hundreds of conservative judges packing all levels of the federal court system. They aren't going to roll over and forfeit the election because Trump says a lot of stupid and offensive things. I am sure they all want him to stop tweeting, but ultimately they have cast their lot for another four years of this clown and are keeping their fingers crossed that Biden trips over himself at the debates or there is some October surprise that tilts the election in Trump's favor. Even with all his missteps, fuck ups, and the outrageous tweets du jour, Trump still has a loyal base of around 40% of the population and is actually polling better than Carter or Bush I were doing before the 1980 and 1992 general elections. Of course, both went on to lose, but nobody every considered having them throw in the towel.
>Trump still has a loyal base of around 40% of the population and is actually polling better than Carter or Bush I were doing before the 1980 and 1992 general elections. <
At this point I'm sure many Republicans in power would LOVE to see the Lunatic-in-chief gone.
They probably figure that against the doddering Biden, Pence would easily hold the knuckle-draggers & Christian zealot base and also hang onto quite a few votes they'll otherwise lose from intelligent conservatives who just can't tolerate more of the unhinged madness of Trump, but IMO anybody who thinks the Orange One would step down or bow out must not have been paying attention AT ALL the past three years.
That dude believes he is the ONLY person who matters, that NO ONE else is worthy.
Trump isn't going to step aside for anyone, for any reason. It's a real question if he'll leave voluntarily if he loses the election.
They aren't going to dump him because they care about anything he says or does. They are going to dump him because his poll numbers are getting to the point that they are endangering other down ballot Republicans.
^"They aren't going to roll over and forfeit the election because Trump says a lot of stupid and offensive things. "
no, but they see the writing on the wall, which is diminishing support with each passing day and all they care about is holding on to power and his continued presence will drag a lot of down ticket candidates down with him.
not holding my breath, but its not outside the realm of possibility .
"The only really good example for Trump is Democrat Harry Truman in 1948. He was down by a little over 10 points to Republican Thomas Dewey. Truman would win by a little less than 5 points. Unlike Biden, however, Dewey was under 50%."
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So Trump has to hope for a "Dewey Beats Truman" kind of shocker in an environment in which there are many more professional polling operations per week than there were at anytime in '48.
>>>>Trump has to hope for a "Dewey Beats Truman" kind of shocker
He pulled that off last time. Latest polls show him tied with Biden in Florida and ahead in places like Texas and Arizona, which a week ago were starting to look like they could flip:
Biden still ahead in some swing states but November is still four months away and the guy will likely hang on to his core 40% base regardless of what happens.
>>>maybe trumpers can go live on their own special reservations with like-minded people. it will be great.
I would be happy to give them Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, and Kentucky. All except for the Mississippi river which would be like the Panama canal and controlled by us
>>>>Trump has to hope for a "Dewey Beats Truman" kind of shocker
>>>He pulled that off last time.
He did not. The polls were pretty spot-on. He lost by a bit more than 2% which was around the polling average. There were state polls that didn't weigh for education level that could have illuminated Clinton's tenuous status in the midwestern states that ended up costing her the electoral college.
>>>Latest polls show him tied with Biden in Florida and ahead in places like Texas and Arizona
Firstly, Biden doesn't need any of those 3 states to win. Those are all gravy states to the Biden campaign.
Secondly - Biden is ahead in AZ and Florida regardless of his need for them:
The 'latest poll' showing him 'tied' in Florida is from a below average pollster, the average of all the polls has it at Biden +6.3% in Florida. Recent Fox and Sienna (excellent pollsters) have Biden up 9% and 6% respectively - also showing Biden at or nearing 50% and Trump struggling to get to the mid-40s.
Trump eked out a win against perhaps the most unpopular presidential candidate of our lifetimes. Since pretty much inauguration day he's been the most unpopular president of the modern era, unable to bring his approval numbers or his polled vote percentage anywhere near 50%.
Trump won mostly because of Clinton-fatigue and misogyny. Unfortunately for him, he thinks he won because of his racist tendencies. He didn't. Thousands and thousands of voters refused to vote for the very, very unpopular Hillary Clinton in 2016. The beneficiaries of her unpopularity were Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.
Bernie already had his come-to-Jesus moment with this phenomena, DJT is standing on-deck.
I'm not educated on all the ways & means of the political world, but do "they" have the power to dump/force Trump off the ticket if he doesn't want to step back?
Does anyone really think he'll step back voluntarily?
I could see Trump step down, maybe if his numbers are so bad he cant recover, butHe doesnt lose and only wins in his mind so stepping down isnt losing. Id say give it to the end of the month and the republicans that have been backing him start to distance themselves from him. Trying to quickly make it seem as though they knew the whole time he was an utter failure as a leader and businessman. Watch mary trumps book have an exerpt on how he hasnt been in buisness meetings in decades because hes just an absolute trainwreck for his own buisness. The stupid is so strong in this country trump was a good idea. Smh. Unreal. No ones gonna be able to pick up the shits he took allover our reputation as a great nation, and pull us back together. Whats bidens plan for all the little kids trump locked in cages? Or have they all died of covid, so no biggie?
>>>>I hope that orange, paranoid xenophobe watches it.
I heard an interview on NPR the other day with one of the directors of the Lincoln Project and when asked whether he felt that some of their ads are over the top and too personal, he explained that many of them have a target audience of one - Trump - and that the goal is to get under his skin, distract him, and throw him off his game.
The GOP will Fix this election before they will concede control.
Facebook & Twitter have been warned by Trump. If they don't help with Russian propaganda then no tax breaks.
Purging voter rolls in non white communities & closing polling stations in African American and Latino communities.
Republicans will do whatever dirty tricks are needed like throwing away Democratic ballots that were mailed in.
The Trump KKKlanpaign supports that confederate flag. NASCAR the fact that Bubba's noose sat in that garage for months a nobody said shit about it. Different crews each race very very damning! Scheduler purposely put him in the only garage of hundreds with noose hanging in it. Please nascar your BS reeks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 06:52 pm
And put up who? BS. Someone
And put up who? BS. Someone trying to get clicks and attention, IMO.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 07:08 pm
Like Santa Claus,Trump
Like Santa Claus, Trump has somehow managed to come through with lots of things on the GOP wish list, like a huge corporate tax break, widespread roll back on government regulations, and hundreds of conservative judges packing all levels of the federal court system. They aren't going to roll over and forfeit the election because Trump says a lot of stupid and offensive things. I am sure they all want him to stop tweeting, but ultimately they have cast their lot for another four years of this clown and are keeping their fingers crossed that Biden trips over himself at the debates or there is some October surprise that tilts the election in Trump's favor. Even with all his missteps, fuck ups, and the outrageous tweets du jour, Trump still has a loyal base of around 40% of the population and is actually polling better than Carter or Bush I were doing before the 1980 and 1992 general elections. Of course, both went on to lose, but nobody every considered having them throw in the towel.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 07:13 pm
>Trump still has a loyal base
>Trump still has a loyal base of around 40% of the population and is actually polling better than Carter or Bush I were doing before the 1980 and 1992 general elections. <
maddening...
the double-downers
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 07:13 pm
At this point I'm sure many
At this point I'm sure many Republicans in power would LOVE to see the Lunatic-in-chief gone.
They probably figure that against the doddering Biden, Pence would easily hold the knuckle-draggers & Christian zealot base and also hang onto quite a few votes they'll otherwise lose from intelligent conservatives who just can't tolerate more of the unhinged madness of Trump, but IMO anybody who thinks the Orange One would step down or bow out must not have been paying attention AT ALL the past three years.
That dude believes he is the ONLY person who matters, that NO ONE else is worthy.
Trump isn't going to step aside for anyone, for any reason. It's a real question if he'll leave voluntarily if he loses the election.
He's mentally ill.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 07:15 pm
Carter and Bush weren't
Carter and Bush weren't traitors.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 07:39 pm
They aren't going to dump him
They aren't going to dump him because they care about anything he says or does. They are going to dump him because his poll numbers are getting to the point that they are endangering other down ballot Republicans.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 07:42 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: .44 Smokeless Terry Taquito
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 07:44 pm
>> Trump....is actually
>> Trump....is actually polling better than Carter or Bush I were doing before the 1980 and 1992 general elections
He was earlier, but he ain't now and that's a fact:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/05/politics/polls-july-analysis/index.html
from the article:
"The only really good example for Trump is Democrat Harry Truman in 1948. He was down by a little over 10 points to Republican Thomas Dewey. Truman would win by a little less than 5 points. Unlike Biden, however, Dewey was under 50%."
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So Trump has to hope for a "Dewey Beats Truman" kind of shocker in an environment in which there are many more professional polling operations per week than there were at anytime in '48.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 07:47 pm
>>>>Trump has to hope for a
>>>>Trump has to hope for a "Dewey Beats Truman" kind of shocker
He pulled that off last time. Latest polls show him tied with Biden in Florida and ahead in places like Texas and Arizona, which a week ago were starting to look like they could flip:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Biden still ahead in some swing states but November is still four months away and the guy will likely hang on to his core 40% base regardless of what happens.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 07:51 pm
maybe trumpers can go live on
maybe trumpers can go live on their own special reservations with like-minded people. it will be great.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 07:59 pm
>>>maybe trumpers can go live
>>>maybe trumpers can go live on their own special reservations with like-minded people. it will be great.
I would be happy to give them Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, and Kentucky. All except for the Mississippi river which would be like the Panama canal and controlled by us
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 08:05 pm
>>>>I would be happy to give
>>>>I would be happy to give them Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, and Kentucky.
There is a significant segment of the population down there that might be a little uncomfortable with that idea.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: .44 Smokeless Terry Taquito
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 08:18 pm
>>>>Trump has to hope for a
>>>>Trump has to hope for a "Dewey Beats Truman" kind of shocker
>>>He pulled that off last time.
He did not. The polls were pretty spot-on. He lost by a bit more than 2% which was around the polling average. There were state polls that didn't weigh for education level that could have illuminated Clinton's tenuous status in the midwestern states that ended up costing her the electoral college.
>>>Latest polls show him tied with Biden in Florida and ahead in places like Texas and Arizona
Firstly, Biden doesn't need any of those 3 states to win. Those are all gravy states to the Biden campaign.
Secondly - Biden is ahead in AZ and Florida regardless of his need for them:
Arizona : https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/arizona/ (Biden +3.1%)
Florida: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/florida/ (Biden +6.3%)
The 'latest poll' showing him 'tied' in Florida is from a below average pollster, the average of all the polls has it at Biden +6.3% in Florida. Recent Fox and Sienna (excellent pollsters) have Biden up 9% and 6% respectively - also showing Biden at or nearing 50% and Trump struggling to get to the mid-40s.
Trump eked out a win against perhaps the most unpopular presidential candidate of our lifetimes. Since pretty much inauguration day he's been the most unpopular president of the modern era, unable to bring his approval numbers or his polled vote percentage anywhere near 50%.
Trump won mostly because of Clinton-fatigue and misogyny. Unfortunately for him, he thinks he won because of his racist tendencies. He didn't. Thousands and thousands of voters refused to vote for the very, very unpopular Hillary Clinton in 2016. The beneficiaries of her unpopularity were Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.
Bernie already had his come-to-Jesus moment with this phenomena, DJT is standing on-deck.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 10:34 pm
>>>They are going to dump him
>>>They are going to dump him because...<<<
I'm not educated on all the ways & means of the political world, but do "they" have the power to dump/force Trump off the ticket if he doesn't want to step back?
Does anyone really think he'll step back voluntarily?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Monday, July 6, 2020 – 11:01 pm
"Mr. President, the Senate is
"Mr. President, the Senate is not gonna lie down for you this time."
That's all it would take. Just like Nixon.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 05:17 am
Replace him with Mark Cuban
Replace him with Mark Cuban and they win the election
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 08:26 am
>>>>>All except for the
>>>>>All except for the Mississippi river which would be like the Panama canal and controlled by us
Panama controls the canal.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 08:53 am
"Seems like they are planning
"Seems like they are planning a coup," sung to the tune of Hell in a Bucket.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary Rasmataz
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 09:16 am
Not a lot of sleep going on
Not a lot of sleep going on in repub land these days, lotsa nervous nellies
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 09:29 am
Whispers
Whispers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk6d4TgO2NY
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 09:30 am
>>>Panama controls the canal.
>>>Panama controls the canal.
Yeah tell Noriega that. You can find him in a US jail
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sigmund SeaMonster
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 10:30 am
They already carried out a
They already carried out a coup when they refused to hear Evidence.
Disgusting mob
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: eastcoastneil VTGDF/NFA
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 11:10 am
I could see Trump step down,
I could see Trump step down, maybe if his numbers are so bad he cant recover, butHe doesnt lose and only wins in his mind so stepping down isnt losing. Id say give it to the end of the month and the republicans that have been backing him start to distance themselves from him. Trying to quickly make it seem as though they knew the whole time he was an utter failure as a leader and businessman. Watch mary trumps book have an exerpt on how he hasnt been in buisness meetings in decades because hes just an absolute trainwreck for his own buisness. The stupid is so strong in this country trump was a good idea. Smh. Unreal. No ones gonna be able to pick up the shits he took allover our reputation as a great nation, and pull us back together. Whats bidens plan for all the little kids trump locked in cages? Or have they all died of covid, so no biggie?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: gypsy tailwind T.O.D.
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 11:24 am
I look forward to the trump
I look forward to the trump vs gop war of the roses.
trump has kompromat on gop members, this will be humiliating to lady g etc...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 11:32 am
Whispers...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bk6d4TgO2NY
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: eastcoastneil VTGDF/NFA
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 11:54 am
^ the whispers are. I cant
^ the whispers are. I cant believe we made this ad. Lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 12:52 pm
I'm digging the Lincoln
I'm digging the Lincoln Project stuff.
Tom Nichols is a good guy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sigmund SeaMonster
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 03:51 pm
Whispers is Savage
Whispers is Savage
I hope that orange, paranoid xenophobe watches it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 03:59 pm
>>>>I hope that orange,
>>>>I hope that orange, paranoid xenophobe watches it.
I heard an interview on NPR the other day with one of the directors of the Lincoln Project and when asked whether he felt that some of their ads are over the top and too personal, he explained that many of them have a target audience of one - Trump - and that the goal is to get under his skin, distract him, and throw him off his game.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 04:09 pm
That ad made want to play
That ad made want to play ac/dc dirty deeds
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Oaksterdam Dan Nugstradamus
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 04:13 pm
The GOP will Fix this
The GOP will Fix this election before they will concede control.
Facebook & Twitter have been warned by Trump. If they don't help with Russian propaganda then no tax breaks.
Purging voter rolls in non white communities & closing polling stations in African American and Latino communities.
Republicans will do whatever dirty tricks are needed like throwing away Democratic ballots that were mailed in.
The Trump KKKlanpaign supports that confederate flag. NASCAR the fact that Bubba's noose sat in that garage for months a nobody said shit about it. Different crews each race very very damning! Scheduler purposely put him in the only garage of hundreds with noose hanging in it. Please nascar your BS reeks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary Rasmataz
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 05:25 pm
Love Lincoln Project
Love Lincoln Project
Pubs self destructing, my dream come true. But till then the least amount of ammo lord fuckwad has going into Nov the better.
That's why I wish those numbnutz up in the Pacific Northwest would get a fucking clue and a grip on themselves.
They're hurtin the team.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 – 05:26 pm
>> and that the goal is to
>> and that the goal is to get under his skin, distract him, and throw him off his game.
Trump's one handed water drinking and 10 minute explanation of why he walked slowly down the ramp at the Tulsa rally proves that they are working.