Syria v. Turkey

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With all the crazy domestic politics, its easy to overlook shit going down in the rest of the world, like in Syria, where Turkey and Syria are getting into a hot shooting war:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/fighting-rages-northwest-syria-tu...

The fighting has been going on for about a week, but Erdogan is threatening a big invasion if the Syrian army doesn't stop its advance on areas controlled by Turkish backed militias.  The Russians are helping the Syrians with massive air support, but are trying not to bomb regular Turkish units. They are hard to distinguish, especially when Turkey is giving its rebel allies surplus armored vehicles to drive around in. 

Around a million people have been displaced in the dead of winter because of this most recent fighting.

Erdogan has asked the US to supply Patriot missile batteries to defend its borders, but the recent fighting is otherwise going on a safe distance from where US troops are deployed to secure oil fields further south and east of there.   But there was a video on the Twitters the other day of a US vehicle totally running a Russian vehicle off the road in a mad max style road rage incident.

I checked out the article, and a few that it linked too, this had a bit more background info; 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/president-erdogan-threatens-immin...

 

          https://youtu.be/vPZydAotVOY

 

     

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We so need to be out of there.

I wonder when the first American casualties in Syria (vs. Russia) will happen?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-VpOaCu8D0M

if america really has to have a massive political party that is into unregulated free market capitalism, doesnt believe in global warming, and is anti abortion, id want it to be led by ron paul.

Shit is getting real over there with dozens of Turkish troops killed today in Russian and/or Syrian airstrikes:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/turkish-soldiers-killed-air-raid-...

Turkey is also opening up its border with Syria for 72 hours to allow the almost million new refugees from this latest fighting to cross over and have open passage on the other side into the EU.

Lindsey Graham is urging Trump to get involved, but I suspect he doesn't have the interest or stomach for it, especially if it means picking sides in a fight between his two pals Erdogan and Putin.  Probably a good thing to stay clear of.

Between Biden and Bernie, who would do a better job of keeping the US out of the Syrian shit show?

Both Erdogan and Putin pay Donald.

bidding war?

 

Biden would follow the Obama doctrine and stay as far away from Syria as possible.

Obama articulated this several times, basically stating that Syria is a tarbaby clusterfuck (my paraphrasing).

Bernie is smart enough to stay away from the tarbaby as well....shit, we can't even get the fuck out of Afganistan after 19 years.

Turkey has been trying to join the EU for years.  The EU should handle this mess.

Isn't Turkey in NATO? 

>>>>The EU should handle this mess.

Its going to be their problem now even more than it has been over the past nine years.  Videos on the Twitters show thousands of refugees already taking advantage of the 72 hour open border period to reach the EU.   If Turkey does a full on invasion this weekend as it is threatening to do, it would displace a lot more people.

>>>>>Isn't Turkey in NATO? 

It is and has been asking the US and other NATO countries to help out.  The problem for Turkey is that Article 5 is defensive in nature and only applies if Turkey is attacked.  In this case, Turkey is the one that got itself in a shooting war with Syria by sending in troops across the border to help Turkish backed rebels in northern Syria.

The EU has built a very large barbed wire fence in Bulgaria at the border of Turkey.  And then there are hard border checks and fences/walls in the southeast shengen area in Hungary and Slovenia.  

Greece also has a border wall with turkey.   2015 was tough on the EU....