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And there you have it.

"Phony impeachment, best phone call ever . . ." 

I bet he's making some phone calls now...

Still Unindicted

Knots...hopefully he will keep taking incoming through the election. More and more FOIA requests will reveal what really happened, and then there's Bolton (and potentially others). The middle will not want 4 more years of this insanity.

God Bless America, Land That I,,,,,  Call Any Vegetable Call It By Name

 

     My extemporaneous, unfiltered thoughts as a point of reference...

 

    • The democrats are finished for at least a generation, and rightly so...they've proven themselves untrustworthy thieves in the night.

    • Nancy Pelosi should get a professional psychological evaluation.

    • November 3rd, 2020 will be a landslide victory for Trump, the likes of which we haven't seen since '84.

     • With time comes perspective, eventually you guys will realize what just happened, which is how history will remember it, a failed coup attempt to unseat a duly elected president, when that is more deeply understood by the general public it will be seismically significant...this skullduggery will be studied by schoolchildren a hundred years from now.

     Namaste 

     Gyuto Monks Tantric Choir 
     The Perfect Jewel
     Sacred Chants of Tibet

     https://youtu.be/INIMACWzMsI

Condition forever impeached 

You will see bry, you will see

Bye bye Miss American Pie...

It makes me feel like throwing up.

We are fucked.

 

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   Bry

 

go fuck yourself 

and STFU Asswipe moron

nam asty 

Get back, Jack
And do it again

 

The election is just around the corner.

 

     As probably the only person on this message board that's done any significant voter registration/mobilization, it makes me chuckle a bit that some of you think you have the electorate figured out...exactly how many doors have you ever knocked on, and how much shoe leather have you left on the streets of America?

I suspect there are a few people on this board that have done a significant amount of get out the vote work.   Direct action was more my thing back in the day, but I have done my share of phone banks and canvasing too.  Working tables at Phish shows was the best part of that sort of activism.  Never was really good at the door to door stuff but there were some people who could really work it. 

But continue . . . 


 

 beatles?

 

https://youtu.be/v5nvcv1Qzw4

 

my favorite vers

 

 

 

 

     I'd venture a guess I have a better intuition than most about these things, if you'll notice, everything I've ever mentioned has been accurate heretofore...so there's that.


 

you can't even putt.

- fat mike

 

<<everything I've ever mentioned has been accurate heretofore...so there's that.

 

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Senator Mitt Romney grew emotional as he pronounced the president “guilty of an appalling abuse of public trust.”

Attempting to corrupt an election to maintain power is about as egregious an assault on the Constitution as can be made,” Mr. Romney said in an interview in his Senate office on Wednesday morning, ahead of the vote and an afternoon floor speech in which he choked up as he explained his decision. 

But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

"And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. 

The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.

-They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945

 

     I'd venture a guess I have a better intuition than most about these things, if you'll notice, everything I've ever mentioned has been accurate heretofore...

 

Fuck you Bryen, you complicit scum, celebrating a sell-out of our democratic processes to foreigners. Fuck you. Fuck every chicken-shit GOP Senator who let this happen. Mitt knew what was right, he knows his place in history is more important than whatever Trump tantrum blows back his way in the short-term. The rest, like you, are the worst among us.

 

     I'm sure these must be frustrating days for those just now awakening to the fact that Schiff's spoon-fed narrative was nothing but deceit & treachery, but I have good news...all you need to do is simply field a candidate who can win 270 electoral college votes fair & square, as our founders intended 243 years ago.
     In the unlikely event you're successful, you'll feel better winning the White House legitimately rather than having to steal it...think of the example you're setting for the youth.  

FUCK YOU

i feel sorry for your mother 

 

     ^ LLTD embracing his inner Pelosi

Thank you

>>>>> I'd venture a guess I have a better intuition than most about these things

 

No penalty for a wrong guess, I guess.

 

Guess onwards, Grasshopper.

Maybe someday you'll guess right.

pelosi just needs to retire, she's fucking up everything. shameful. 

^ I felt the same way about the Grateful Dead after Brent cut out and left us with Vince. 

yeah i would have felt that as well, vince was a terrible hire. haha. just awful all around. 

 

What exactly did Pelosi do to fuck things up shamefully?

besides passing trump agenda? besides that? 

well, trump should've been impeached last year when we were calling for it : for starters, the human rights violations at the border and emoluments clause is where it starts. she gave every president in the future free reign on that shit. shameful. it wasn't until trump came for biden that the dems got all upset. fuck that shit. she's horrible at her job, she should go away. 

 

 

I thought that, too, about Vince.  But not anymore.  He was just another different decoration on the Grateful Dead tree

Vince> mayer

>>>>>well, trump should've been impeached last year when we were calling for it

 

Woulda been the same result in the Senate.

Dems sent over a hundred bills to the Senate - they're all sitting on McYertle's desk.

The only people who hate the Democratic party more than pyramid are Bryen and Blairbert.  

Bry and Heat in a cage. Who comes out alive?

surf you just don't get it. haha. 

when nancy tore up trumps speech, were you clapping? lol. 

but when she passed his military budget, were you also clapping? 

when they passed the new trade deal, were you clapping then as well? 

people propping up the dem establishment hate democracy. 

Jeez, ogkb, try to be fair. Pelosi made a calculated decision about when to move forward with impeachment, and it was always "damned if you do, damned if you don't." Yes, she could have done it earlier,  it then it would have been "too soon," like she was out to get him from day one.

As for passing Trump's agenda, you're grossly oversimplifying it. She gave him a stupid military budget, and in return got things the Dems wanted. It's a bullshit system, but that's how it works. And if Bernie was President, you sure as hell would want the Republicans to do the same. In doing so, he'd have to give them something too. If they don't do that,  nothing gets done.

The problem is that they are allowed to tack unrelated line items on to bills, and it becomes a big game of quid pro quo.

Im not sure if you're blinded by hatred or idealism or both, ogkb, but at least try to be fair.

it's what they chose to impeach him for. wtf. 

zero reason to negotiate w/ a 800bil dollar military budget. that's a non starter. 

she has no idea what she's doing. 7-D chess, right? jesus christ. 

bk, you're blinded by the establishment, thinking shit can't change; you profess that youre about the change, but that you just don't think it's possible. not sure what's more lame. at least stand up for something man. you've said bloomberg has a chance? that you like him? that's fine, it's your opinion. in fact, i could call you a hypocrite for stating that based off of what you've said about bernie. 

but that just shows your massive disconnect from the electorate and the political pulse of the nation. 

Holy fuck, ogkb, have you read anything I wrote? You have this propensity to put thoughts and motivations into those you disagree with. As a matter of fact, just above I've outlined 2 things that need to change for real reform. I absolutely think things can change, but it is t happening your way.

As for me being out of touch, I think you really need to step off your high horse. Your understanding of our political system is meager at best, You just throw temper tantrums and berate those who have different ideas than you.

It's laughable that some 30-something pizza maker, living in Vermont, thinks he has any clue about the political pulse of the nation. Please comment on how Bernie wanting your get rid of ICE. Is going to track in border states, or how his ban on fracking will track in the swing states. You think that his M4A, which everyone knows is a pipe dream right now, will outweigh his potential executive orders that will have immediate consequences and piss off millions? Oh yeah, you conveniently gloss over his very unpopular policies, don't you?

Stand down, soldier. Get a grip.

that's what im telling you -- and every time i do, you have a temper tantrum. all good man. 

 

Ha ha. I'm pretty calm and factual. You just spew ignorance and hatred. I've yet to see you comment on how to do things differently. Bernie isn't the answer to the problems. 

its going to be a long fast year...

bk you're on record trashing bernie for not being a dem but running in their primary. 

you now have voiced support for bloomberg. 

 

calm. very calm.  

Why not agree to disagree and just move past it.

Lol, saying that Bloomberg may have a chance is "voicing support?" In what world can that correlation be made? Is my saying that Trump will probably win my voicing support for Trump?

Yes, my opinion is that Bernie shouldn't have run as a Dem. So what? I'm equal opportunity, and also said Trump shouldn't have run as a Rep. And just earlier I said Bloomberg shouldn't be able to run as a Dem.

Your selective reading is too much, and your faulty extrapolations are just strange. You truly want everyone to be the enemy, and make shit up to suit the narrative. Chill, brah.

By the way, ogkb, I've yet to say anything about who I will or won't vote for in the primary, or even who I like or dislike. I'm trying to keep it objective.

In case you're wondering, these are the folks that I would never cast a vote for: Biden, Bloomberg

The almost no chance: Warren, Buttigeg

Notice who is not on either of those lists? Lol

 

i know you'll vote bernie. you want to defeat trump. 

In VT I can vote for anyone in the primary and know Bernie will win.

I don't think Bernie beats Trump in the general, but I don't think that any of them do.

Temper tantrum king indeed

nice try BK, but the man will be who he is

"I'm right everyone else is wrong "

so I can insult them, as does Trump.   Similarities?

yes I expect heat hate for expressing myself,   And I'll  stay away from that other thread of hate 

 

LLTD, more psychobabble from you. 

you know, for always wagging your shamy finger, you've called quite a few zoners not such nice names. 

you are a hypocrite, and you don't know the definition of hate. 

"It's hard for me to imagine a more serious attack on the constitution & on a republic like ours than saying that a president would be able to enlist a foreign government to corrupt our elections to keep in power."

-Sen. Mitt Romney

You definitely have disdain for and anger towards those who disagree with you. It's interesting that you rarely debate policies, and instead go to attacking people.

Look dude, I admire your chutzpah, but it would be great if you could also just chill and discuss. You rant and rave that Bernie is the only one who can beat Trump, but give no viable data to show that. When questioned, you freak out. Maybe more effort formulating opinions based on fact, and less effort berating people for having differing opinions? That' "the other candidate" thread was in hopes to f getting a real dialogue based on the facts of platforms, not ranting and raving.

Yes, I can and do go off the rails 

and not sugarcoat my dislike for some folks views and how they express them

guilty as charged

interesting that your "open mindedness", comprehension skills, what you don't wast to hear/ can't understand

You choose to call psychobabble 

If you prefer, I will not speak to your posting  style, or opinions 

have a good day sir

i don't give a fuck what you do -- i'm not some message board bitch that must ask certain posters to ignore my posts lol. 

jesus christ man. 

bk you're insane man if you think i just call people names lol wtf? 

ive provides data countless times. how can you say i haven't and i day i have, countless times? mind blown. 

it's also incredible that you say all i do is insult? do you read others' posts? come on man. 

<<pelosi just needs to retire, she's fucking up everything. shameful. 

 

what a joke.  who exactly would you recommend (you can't say Bernie) to be in her position, and what would that person be doing differently? 

bernie derangement syndrome seems to be very similar to what happens to people on the right who watch too much Fox News.

Viable data.

For instance, please show me anything that points to Bernie being the only electable candidate. The key word is "only." Please show me how a vote for anyone else, in the primary, is a vote for Trump.

While you're at it, please explain to me what a President Sanders will do in a 4 year term, and how he will build a bipartisan coalition to get there. I do t want to hear about executive orders and shit, but rather real legislation. What do or he do that Warren wouldn't? Use data, trends and facts to back your stance.

Every time I ask you these same questions you blow them off and go back to your hyperbole.

dude i've explained all of this. 

i refuse to again and again. that's crazy man. 

peace! 

Lol, you haven't explained anything. You've avowed it over and over, but that's not explaining. Sometimes you give unrelated data, and that doesn't help. There is absolutely no data to show that Hillary lost because she was centrist - none! That's the premise of your whole argument, and it's faulty. 

You don't ask me to ignore your posts 

I choose to ignore them because they do not resonate/ make any sense to me

and you choose to attack and demonize others 

And I choose to be annoyed by your substance, attitude, and style (like Bry does with the condescending hyperbole / But I perceive you to be more negative  )

That's  on me    Ciao

 

Brian K doing some serious schooling up in here, and has boxed ol' heater into a corner. 

Trump can do anything he wants to further his reelection if he thinks serving another four years is in the public’s interest. It was a shocking argument that exposed the GOP’s core as consisting of something between chloroform and rat poison.  

At any cost.  Right folks

"pray "  for our grandchildren 

For heavens sake, somebody tell a joke fore it gets ugly in here.

Good one Noodler, we can always count on you.  But translation please, I lost him after, ' not disrespectful enough'

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Full Pardon - Very nice comrade trump, I'm jealous how you have senate so well trained,  now move fuck out of way you dog -- 

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jr you've been melting at premium levels for weeks now. nice.