This Friday, December 6th marks 50. Amazingly, all the Stones who played that day are still living, including Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor.
I'm reading Stanley Booth's book about the '69 Tour and in the last part about Altamont. Wild group of characters.
Just got really stoned picked up my guitar and played a Midnight Rambler>Fire On The Mountain.
The flame on the stage has now spread to the floor.
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on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 01:10 pm
Is there an anniversary show
Is there an anniversary show planned
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on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 01:19 pm
Gimme Shelter is still a
Gimme Shelter is still a really disturbing movie. You can smell Mick's fear when he is looking over at the fucked up Hells Angels standing around on the stage.
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on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 01:36 pm
Here is a cool Washington
Here is a cool Washington post article from two weeks ago that looks back at Altamont, includes some great photographs and first hand accounts
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/lifestyle/altamont-rolling-...
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on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 01:42 pm
...Were any of you Zoners
...Were any of you Zoners there that can share first hand memories?
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on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 02:02 pm
That photo has it all.
That photo has it all.
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on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 03:40 pm
Yes
Yes
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on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 04:23 pm
I was there. LLTD probably
I was there. LLTD probably remembers more than I do about being there.
Dave, the first Mr. Judit, and I lived just south of Eureka and heard the day before it that there was going to be a free concert with bands we loved, so we took off that evening and drove to Alameda to pick up a couple of friends on the way. We got there in the middle of the night, slept for a couple of hours and started driving east toward the Raceway. We had no idea what to expect nor where we were really going. Traffic got thicker as we got nearer and people were beginning to park on the side of the Highway. That was mindblowing to me, but we did it, too. By the time we parked, cars were two and three deep on the side of the road.
Less clear memory of traipsing across fields with streams of people around the walls of the raceway to an entrance. The place was filling up; we stayed toward the back and side of the growing crowd. That was the biggest crowd either of us had seen or been in, and I was a bit intimidated. The sound was pretty low and dull back there, in fact it was hard to tell who was playing. We walked around to find a better place to hear from but it never got great. We did hear bands but never well, and not clearly.
We never had any idea of what was going on in the front. I don't remember how things went down in the back of the crowd, nor how the music ended. I also don't remember how we found the car, maybe Dave knew where we'd left it. I just remember lots and lots of people, very little infrastructure, lots of alcohol... Woodstock never made it to Altamont.
edit: looking at that picture makes me think we weren't all the way in the back, I can't even tell where that would have been.
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on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 04:27 pm
very cool Judit thanks for
very cool Judit thanks for sharing
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on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 08:48 pm
Looks a little like Jerry in
Looks a little like Jerry in the orange poncho.
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on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 09:19 pm
That motorcycle is awesome!
That motorcycle is awesome!
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on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 09:46 pm
No Stab Taken ,,,
No Stab Taken ,,,
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lord Kalvert Lloyd_Klondike
on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 – 11:33 pm
We got there the night before
We got there the night before -- late. Scored some pot and parked right near the track.
2 girls in the station wagon - 4 guys. Don't know how we got any sleep.
Made our way around the track to the site the next morning and found we were halfway up the hill.
Got very very stoned....passed out for a while. Don't remember too much about the other bands -we could tell there was a ruckus going on.
Stones played great despite the violence. First time they broke out Brown Sugar. Bonfires everywhere- we split. Stuck in traffic for hours.
Quite a scene.
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 01:57 am
I read the Washington Post
I read the Washington Post article that Wingfan posted the link to, after I posted my memories. I wasn't surprised by what they wrote, but was surprised at how much I remembered after reading it. I forgot to mention some of what they did, like no porto boxes. That was noticeable the minute we walked into the area, as well as there being no water, food or anything else.
Ralph Gleason was my friend's father and I spent a lot of time at their house in the mid-sixties. He wasn't very cranky (or whatever they called him in the article) at home. He had shelves and shelves of LP's, many many feet of albums, and he knew "everything" about all of them and their artists; I was a teenager and thought I knew a lot. Our opinions weren't always in agreement but neither of us was disrespectful.
Wow, the anniversary is opening up lots of memories.
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 04:46 am
The Stones and GD waiting for
The Stones and GD waiting for their ride. I'm sure you've seen it before. Mick is such a wanker!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQl1heKBNWI
Jerry & Phil and Mike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QEo6UnI64M
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 08:21 am
I know there was a four night
I know there was a four night Grateful Dead run of shows happening the same weekend-December 4-7 @ Fillmore West, with the Saturday show cancelled because of Altamont.
Judith or Lloyd were either of you in for the Dead Shows in SF? or were you even aware they were happening?
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 08:58 am
< Gimme Shelter is still a
< Gimme Shelter is still a really disturbing movie >
I couldn't agree more. From Marty getting knocked out to the Stones powder keg. Jerry caught wind of it and wisely bailed. Sounds like if you weren't right down near the stage you were at least safe, I bet some of the good party vibes in the back were epic. So glad to hear you attendees made it unscathed. Good stuff Judit
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 11:26 am
"Wherever we have been before
"Wherever we have been before, none of us has ever been alone in the desert with hundreds of thousands of other young freaks, the Rolling Dead, all kinds of dope and no rules!"
-Stanley Booth "The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidchiu/2019/12/03/altamont-at-50-the-dis...
This piece has some current insight from Joel Selvin.
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 11:34 am
prequel:
prequel:
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1969/12/04/talk-about-what-became-alt...
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 11:44 am
That stage was really low.
That stage was really low. Kind of a recipe for disaster with 300,000 coming.
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 12:03 pm
>>>>Is there an anniversary
>>>>Is there an anniversary show planned
That was called Woodstock 99.
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 12:06 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SzvUgR4CRvE
May 24, 1970 black and white video footage of interview with Jerry Garcia discussing Altamont.
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 12:08 pm
Appreciate the thoughts,
Appreciate the thoughts, Judit.
sam cutler’s book really gets into the nuts and bolts of altamont
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 12:42 pm
Greg - did not make it to FW
Greg - did not make it to FW for the the Dead- I was still going through my british blues band phase at that time.
I did read about some of the goings on there that weekend in Bill Graham's biography. Check out that book if you haven't. Graham had some SCATHING remarks about Altamont & the Stones.
He said he tried to warn everybody in advance.
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 12:58 pm
>>>>Check out that book if
>>>>Check out that book if you haven't.
One of the very best rock bios I have read (and I have read many).
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 12:59 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KQl1heKBNWI
Before the helicopter ride to Altamont with Jimi, Keith, Mick, Jerry, Billy
In order of appearance. Even without the Dead, it was a great line-up.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ogvfgJLfA0k
Santana "Persuasion"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWhRDkJSWE
Jefferson Airplane "The Other Side Of This Life" w/ Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh footage
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hIgMN7Kd7u8
The Flying Burrito Brothers "Six Days On The Road"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-O9K_dQVo
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young "Long Time Gone"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pqK-J9S2GXs
The Rolling Stones "Sympathy For The Devil "
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vRQaqmP7QGY
Rolling Stones "Under My Thumb"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pxTCQ5gW0Ig
The Rolling Stones "Brown Sugar" (live debut, 2 days after they recorded it at Muscle Shoals Studio)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4CG1rbUdHKg
The Rolling Sones "Gimme Shelter"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NHugEELD8o8
Rolling Stones "Street Fighting Man"
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 01:21 pm
From Rosie McGee's book
From Rosie McGee's book pg 1
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 01:22 pm
pg2
pg2
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 01:24 pm
pg3
pg3
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on Thursday, December 5, 2019 – 01:39 pm
Thank you Lloyd for thait
Thank you Lloyd for thait input. It seems like you would have to choose one or the other as far as the FW or Altamont though I'm sure some managed to hit Thursday and Friday FW then went straight to the festival to get a spot. I'm guessing the Dead were going to play FW after their scheduled performance at Altamont? but cancelled the sat FW show because of the stabbing
Also that is great footage Dave. Good work
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on Saturday, December 7, 2019 – 09:48 am
Recently released home movie
Recently released home movie footage;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5WAk6HJ3_Bs&feature=youtu.be
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on Saturday, December 7, 2019 – 01:09 pm
Good find!
Good find!
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on Saturday, December 7, 2019 – 01:28 pm
Joel Selvin's book lays some
Joel Selvin's book lays some blame on the dead and calls them out for not playing, the only band that didn't....maybe they would have helped chill the crowd, who knows...
.https://www.marinij.com/2016/08/11/grateful-deads-role-in-infamous-altam....
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on Saturday, December 7, 2019 – 02:07 pm
Waiting for a helicopter
Waiting for a helicopter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQl1heKBNWI
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on Sunday, December 8, 2019 – 06:36 pm
Sam Cutler's book 'You Can't
Sam Cutler's book 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' is also available as a Book On Tape Phone App with Sam doing the narration himself.