Bryen's GD community hates Hispanic and Latino migrants.

     I did, it was very sad, I hope things improve and a solution is realized.

     Your thread title is very offensive, not that it matters, it's of little importance.

     https://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org/our-ministry/immigration-refugee-se...

     I'd welcome an intelligent discussion on solutions to the immigration issue, in all seriousness, what are your thoughts as far as brainstorming a solution?  Stranger things have happened than we forge new ground.  An apolitical discussion may be too tall an order, but we could always try...as a thought experiment of sorts.  You go first.

     Ok I'll start...there should be a standard operating procedure, a "best practices" approach towards managing immigration that benefits all parties.  We should be able to all agree on that, what might that policy look like?

     Ok...no cutting and pasting articles, what are your thoughts?

I think cutting humanitarian aid to the countries these people are fleeing was a bad idea as is the family separation policy.

I think trying to keep South and Central America poor so we could have cheap produce and labor is a bad idea too.

    "They're all human. What makes them different?"

    I agree with your sentiments...with that in mind, what are your thoughts towards improving the process?

    "I think cutting humanitarian aid to the countries these people are fleeing was a bad idea as is the family separation policy."

     I agree

     It seems as if we could "think our way out of" poverty in Central America, just thinking out of the box...but maybe Apple could make iPhones in Guatemala, seriously.

    "Who do you want the process to keep out?"

     No one it shouldn't, who do you want it to allow in?

     Respectfully, I'm guessing by everyone you're suggesting no criteria whatsoever, correct?  I ask with respect, I appreciate your thoughts, thanks.

     I appreciate that question, thank you...it's not so much what some are capable of, but rather to have some semblance of order & logic as to who should be allowed to enter, is that somewhat logical?

     I should clarify, "it's not so much what some are capable of" might be misconstrued as no value given towards extraordinary aptitude or an exemplary record of citizenship.  As an aside, in all seriousness, give me 5 minutes worth of thoughts and ideas in regards to iPhone manufacturing in Central America.  It's a win-win for America.  Thanks.

they're illegal aliens not immigrants. your guy obama told them in 2014 to not bring the fucking kids. they didn't listen then they're not listening now but it's trumps fault right?

     Hillman is wise, he realizes these "abhorrent" regulations & policies were enacted by the Obama administration...that's not some conspiracy theory, it's a real dynamic...but it's an apolitical thread and I'd like to keep the focus in a "be here now" sense of brainstorming solutions, thanks.

     Knotesau, respectfully, because I know you're a staunch advocate of respect...I think what you're saying is absolute open borders, correct?

I don't allow just anyone to come into my house.

But I guess I should - free movement of the people, right?

If you want to have different rules here than some other folks have over there, you need to have nations. You can't have a nation without borders, and there's no point in having borders if you don't care who is crossing them.

Every new family that comes here is one more chunk of nature developed for housing and/or other human use.

Our resources would be better spent on improving living conditions in other countries and helping them control their population growth so they won't need to come here.

"You can't have a nation without borders, and there's no point in having borders if you don't care who is crossing them."

Here's the border between the Netherlands and Belgium. Clearly, these nations are doing something wrong if people can just push a chair back from a coffe shop table and be in another country. 

Here's a car racing over the Sweden - Norway border. Man, those countries must be real shitholes to have such loose borders. What are they thinking?

>I think cutting humanitarian aid to the countries these people are fleeing was a bad idea<

bingo.

if there is no law nor opportunities at home, they will try to survive elsewhere.

i can't imagine having to uproot my family and make a perilous journey across nations with my kids.

oh and also javs, i guess more americans would be into open borders like in europe if our neighbors weren't brown...

Yeah, sad but true.

In many respects, the EU is sort of like one big country.   There are still traditional border controls getting into the EU and if you are not from an EU country, you have to go through the normal immigration process.   The southern border of Hungary is particularly fortified.   But once you get in, you can zip across national borders like we do crossing state borders in the US.   

Also, the lax immigration policies is not without controversy and is fueling nationalist and right wing movements across the continent.   

I mean, the EU is a particular example that is unusual due to the fact that most of the countries are fairly well off and have decent support networks, which is not necessarily the case for say, Mexico. On the other hand, as a Chilean citizen I can walk in and out of pretty much any South American country with just my ID card. Further, Chile has had a ton of influx of Haitian, Venezuelan, Colombian and other migrants in the past 10 years and while it has raised some concerns, for the most part nobody is talking about a negative effect on the economy or on the culture. So yeah, I don't think a hard-border with a neighbor is a guarantee of safety or economic prosperity. Open borders, however, seem to me to foster greater safety and economic prosperity. Maybe so, maybe not...