JRAD at the Frost

whoa! that'll sell out quickly. 

Great news!  The capacity is/was listed as 6900. Tickets should t be too bad...

that gets my attention.

Camping? 

^^extremely unlikely

I was hoping that gap in the tour would be filled by the Greek but this is even better.

Quinn! Is this the same Quinn I met at the CAP? Where have you been?

Do they really sell out venues of this size?

hi Llollo, no that's not me. The other Quinn who was on philzone didn't move over here, i think.

They sold out three nights at The Capital, is Frost much larger?

6900 China-Rider! See post farther up.

People will come out of the wood work for dead music at Frost

Oh, thx esquimaux... nice to meet you.

I want to go to the Frost but not for Tom Hamilton. 

Enjoy

Thanks Llollo.  So Frost is much larger than The Cap but I bet it will sell out. 

Just imagine how many teases they’ll do at the frost 

Thank Any guesses on ticket prices? I’ll start the guesses with $100 tickets. 

I  am not sure it will sell out, at least not quickly. 

Looking forward to being back back at the Frost, regardless 

I’m gonna guess $45

I haven't been to the Frost since the early '90's.

Hoping to go.

Part of me thinks that JRAD may be more intense than what I would normally expect from that pastoral venue, but it looks like I'll have to check it out for myself.

they should do a tour of all the cool venues that closed in my face.

They sure as shit sold more than 6,900 tickets when the GD played there.

The number tossed around back then was 9,000.

The Frost has been completely renovated since then

https://live.stanford.edu/content/presale-access-stanford-live-and-golde...

Agree. Cuthbert capacity is around 5K... that will sell out... though it hasn't yet. 

C

nailed it 

thanks Zooey -- that presale works best for me! 

Now for hotels within walking distance, yikes: https://www.google.com/search?q=hotels+near+frost+amphitheater&oq=hotels+ne&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0j69i57j69i61l2j0.3161j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I'm looking at the Creekside Inn -- free shuttle service to Stanford campus and within 5 mile radius...

>>>Part of me thinks that JRAD may be more intense than what I would normally expect from that pastoral venue<<<

Didn't the Hallowed Q play the Frost? Did you go to that one Johnny?

Personally I think it's really cool the place is re-opening for shows, but I've always much preferred the Greek to the Frost.

IMO the sound was much better/more powerful at the Greek, and I hate to broil with the sun setting in my face during a show, and I'm assuming it will continue to be afternoon shows only at the Frost, where there is very little/none shade and it will likely be damn hot in August.

On the plus side, it's chill venue, it's always fun to goof around on the Stanford campus, and it's only 20 minutes from my house!

Will it sell out? It will probably come close, but that venue was always WAY better when it wasn't full, so on a personal level I hope it does not.

And on that note I thank Knotesau​ for Knotgoing.

 Opinions are like assholes I am one and I have one (Or two )

 There is absolutely no finer  venue than the frost

and I have seen dozens  and also tons of the best band in the world have amazing shows there

by far my favorite venue beating out Fillmore west and Winterland handily

bonus: five blocks from where I grew up

Http://rockprosopography101.blogspot.com/2010/05/frost-amphitheater-stanford-university.html?m=1

Well El Camino ballpark had its moments prior and the Baylands baseball field

http://rockarchaeology101.blogspot.com/2010/02/100-el-camino-real-palo-a...

I like the word bohemian

http://sanchostaqueria.com

https://www.tacolicious.com

Re: ticket prices

Red Rocks was about $50. I'm in. 

I flew out for those in 02 rented a car and had a fantastic time  at Greeks then Frost is icing on the cake. What a weekend.

Doors at 5, Show at 6:30

 List on this site seems to be pretty accurate to my recollection  (The definition of luck is right place right time I guess )

Two shows for sure I remember but don't see on this list October 9, 1970 or 71 sly Stone- I want to take you higher white long fringe jacket with  White sunglasses arms in the air an image I will hold forever fknnn amazing band  his decline in the story is kind of sad just an amazing talent

and a sunrise performance by the cast of HAIR

 So many memories including sitting in the oak tree up on the hill listening to silk degrees 

Neil schon playing With Carlos at the age of 16

Maybe there some industrious person that wants to update and post all the set list for the Grateful Dead shows (or Phil or the new riders or rat dog shows or Jerry shows ) that were held there

curious historians or YOUNG whippersnappers that Want a glimpse into the history of rock n roll should actually look at this list IMHO

https://www.setlist.fm/venue/frost-amphitheatre-stanford-ca-usa-bd7393a....

 Long live rock 'n' roll 

Interesting. A 10:00pm curfew. Late afternoon first set, setting sun/nighttime 2nd set.

That will make it a different venue.

Far out.

 Quinn plays a mean tuba!       Leland Stanford Junior  University marching band 

Go INDIANS

Have you seen the new look, LLTD? I don't care for it. A brick wall behind the stage and a roof over the stage.

(Similar to what they did at Red Rocks).

Bummer.  It looks gaudy. Seems like a total waste of money.  It was perfect the way it was.

whats parking like for this venue?

thanks!

Zoo girl

I can't seem to find the right link please advise

Just got tix looking forward to this one

>>>I can't seem to find the right link please advise

You need to scroll down on the FB page below the first couple of posts. 

was easy enough to order tix on my iphone. for some reason, my computer was slow as molasses. 

 I have the link  and y cart is loaded it's just sitting there ....

Frost Amphitheater ~ Stanford, CA - Saturday, August 17, 2019

Band FB Pre Sale starts NOW at 1:00PM ET / 10:00AM PT

Password / code: WillieMcCovey
(NO SPACES, NOT CASE SENSITIVE)

https://www.axs.com/events/369057/joe-russo-s-almost-dead-tickets/promos...

 Thanks all it sometimes difficult for a stupid person to navigate on an iPhone but God willing I will now be in there 

with bells on, remodel and all

There were a number of things that had to be upgraded/renovated for shows to happen there again.

And if you want to draw touring bands you have to have the infrastructure to handle modern sound systems....... and big lighting setups if you want to have shows after dark, which most touring bands do since they're paying for & lugging around their fancy lighting rigs.

And nighttime shows sell better.

I don't think the renovations will mar the place that much. It's not like they put in seats & luxury boxes.

Yet.

Kinda ruins the sightline

Greg, I agree with your statements.

Lance, I know those things have to be done in order to have more than

just a couple of daytime shows a year. The place literally had no infrastructure.

It doesn't mean I have to be happy about it.

Prohibited items:

Weapons of any kind

Backpacks, purses, or any other bag not approved in the “clear bag” policy.

Liquids in non-factory sealed containers

Outside alcohol, cans or glass containers and cutlery or metal silverware of any kind.

Reusable water bottles over 20 oz.

Glass of any kind

Large Blankets (over 40x60”)

Structured chairs of any kind; tables; and umbrellasCoolers, picnic baskets, barbecue grills

Strollers, wagons, scooters, skateboards, bicycles.

Animals (with the exception of service animals as defined by the ADA)

Frisbees, balls, hula hoops, sporting equipment

Cameras with detachable lens, audio or video recording devices, GoPros, selfie sticks

Laser pointers

Totems, large signs (larger than 8.5x11”)

Bullhorns, noisemakers, speakers and instruments,

Smoking and vaping is not allowed anywhere in the venue

I get that it would be cool if it was still just a grass hill with a little stage at the bottom that is rarely if ever used, but I think it will be even cooler to get to actually go back there and see lots of shows instead of remembering 30 years ago when we used to see one or two. Personally I am happy about that, and I don't think what they've done looks that bad.

>>>whats parking like for this venue<<<

I would assume there will be plenty of parking in the fields around the venue that they use for the football games..... for a slight fee.

Can someone post a current picture?  That one slack posted isnt real, its computer generated.

 All good and not quite better than remembering 40-50 years ago 5-10 every year 

 It's sacred ground but unlikely it's been desecrated

 Yes and trees and grass ( where I went to high school)  are way cooler than the concrete Greek (where I went to school)

 Sorry no pictures but I was near the outside of it a couple months ago 

Almost all of the fields are still there more than enough parking  (there's a new band building and the Bing center for the arts or something but other than that Way easier than the Greek not that I'm comparing

 I was so much younger then,  I am younger than that now     Time marches on but I'm super stoked even if it's not my favorite band it is a step in the right direction

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.stanford.edu%2Fne...

 I'm starting to work on a non-structured chair now !

The one knot posted looks pretty accurate...

Sometimes progress isn't better

So what's up with the large white cover(tent?) shown in the image I posted? Is that temporary? a finish photo shows its way worse. They should have just repaved the slab if it was needed. Ugh. 

It served phil well in 2002.they could have just left it alone and the legendary Frost would draw talented musicians that would have packed that place ..the way it was. 

hello all.

its was a meager ask but I will ask again to the group..  what is parking like for this venue?  never been to the Frost before and I am excited to go in August.

thanks!

why don't more places terrace their venues?

Parking $30 cash only in the official lots

(plenty of free parking on campus in other areas)

https://live.stanford.edu/node/1471

In this case the trees already provided a lovely backdrop. The brick/stone wall behind the stage and the giant white canopy is overkill.

Looks like parking will be $30. I'm thinking it was free in the 80's.

https://live.stanford.edu/node/1471

Found this article from 2011. Why did the GD skip 84?

https://stanfordmag.org/contents/a-place-in-the-sun

thanks Nanc and Fugs.

bucket list venue for me so I am stoked to be a part of things.

take care viva

Presale is still active -- just picked up 2 tix! 

more on parking

most parking on campus is FREE on weekends.

Stanford does  allow tailgating in the official event pay lots and may even allow cars to stay the night there, they don't seem to kick out the cars after football games. 

 plenty of RV's parked overnight on El Camino along the campus. if you can snag a spot there, it's free and a short walk to the Frost. 

we tend to park at the lot across from the Container Store (Stanford Shopping Center), near the Mausoleum on Quarry Rd. Although will likely be walking or riding bikes to the venue.

there are plenty of  campus parking lots where there is free parking and you'll avoid the traffic mess getting in/out of the "official" parking lot. try the  Tresider Union parking lot, also free on weekends, or near the Art Museum if it's not blocked off, that would be the closest free parking. 

http://visit.stanford.edu/plan/parking.html

that is excellent info Nanc.. thanks a ton!

Has anyone who did presale gotten their official tickets yet? 

What's more overrated, JRAD or the frost?

not trolling, serious question, ok kind of trolling but am legitimately interested in people's honest opinions. 

Was There for Phil in 2002 FROST ! After 2 Shows at Greek Berkeley --- a Great 3 Day Run

E - Frost Is Cool but The Sound at Greek Was Way Better

The sound was great at both the Greek and Frost. I certainly didn't notice any decrease in sound quality at all but I was in the sweet spot .

They just want to dance barefoot on the grass steps.

Stern Grove would be a better spot for that but Tom Hamilton's voice would ruin that vibe as well. 

I Agree Greg  But It Was Great Way Back at The Greek too I Did Manage To Get way Up Front at Frost On Mushrooms I may add Warren Blew Me Away ! PLQ !!

>Has anyone who did presale gotten their official tickets yet? 

When I downloaded the mobile app ‘flash seats’ according to the directions on the receipt, the tickets appeared - seems like they really are going paperless and just want everyone to use the app and scan their tickets at the gate.

That 2x Greek->Frost was quite the weekend. High times. A heavy GD vibe. 

Why would the Frost be overrated? Beautiful space, beautiful campus, usually beautiful weather. Also pretty rich in band history. Maybe an audiophile could poke holes in the venue but not sure it matters all that much in this case.

can anyone post the Link to the Phil 2002 Frost show ? thx.

Thanks that worked

Cool. Maybe it helps to discourage scalpers? 

You don't need to be way up front for good sound. I wasn't way up front at greeks either.  And having been at both of those then the frost I stand by my statement that the Greeks didn't sound way better, as you claim.  I mean I remember that weekend clear as day. The Frost, imo, sounded as good as Berkeley

I couldn't find it on internet archive so here's the etree link 

6-2-02 phil

http://db.etree.org/shn/10177

https://archive.org/details/2002-06-02.paf.schoeps.spoogeseed.10177.sbef...

https://archive.org/details/2002-06-02.paf.akg.pujol.25817.sbeok.flacf

https://archive.org/details/2002-06-02.paf.naks.unknown.10258.sbefail.flacf

PLF

6-2-02

E. Jrad is over rated 

Other than daylight who "rates" JRAD as anything other than a good & fun band? Nothing earth-shattering, but they can be dynamic and can get into a damn good groove.

The Frost is a good & fun amphitheater, and now with shows being able to go into the night it will likely become more dynamic, and thus a better one.

Neither are over-rated.

That's a cop out, lance.

Gotta pick one in this quandary I've posited, doesn't matter if u think neither is or both r.

I've yet to see JRAD live, so I'm not voting.

Overrated or not, the Frost concert will be a blast and a fun party on the "farm" 

Be there and/or be square

>The Farm. Campus nickname, derived from the days when horses rather than students roamed in what previously was the farm of university founders Leland and Jane Stanford.

is this the new Q?

https://museum.stanford.edu/about

awesome museum on campus - free entry

I like JRAD, the times Ive seen them were fun mix of people, all groovin. They get out there a bit and I like drums. Its good live music.

All I know about the Frost is from some cracklin great shoes on tape. Have phun, those that go. 

>>>is this the new Q

kinda

When did Phil Lesh join Jay rad dude Did I miss something?

Didn't ya hear? Phil and Family Band are the opening act!  ba-da-bump 

Are late night post concert shows allowed in Palo Alto? Would TXR be in play?

Got front row triple VIP inner uber innie reverse double waterfall for only $5270.00  

>>>E. Jrad is over rated 

I might agree but they are fun.   I was a hair disappointed with the valentines show.  Felt a little gimmicky at times with the deep lows and immediate extreme highs.   Was interesting the first three times they did it but by the tenth time I was well over it.     

>>>>>When did Phil Lesh join Jay rad dude Did I miss something?

I don’t care for the band name Phil Lesh’s Almost Dead

OK E, if I  HAVE to choose I say that because almost no one truly raves about JRAD while many rave about the Frost then by default the Frost is "over-rated", as many places of lore can be.

But if Phil Lesh was in JRAD I would likely be raving about them.

And bite your tongue Turtle. There is no other Q than The Hallowed Q.

But JRAD does come closest to the Q's high octane (frantic) approach.

​

^^^ I’m hoping that one day I can get Phil, Warren and all of the boys to sign this Q poster someone gave me 

I hope Phish plays the BGCA that same weekend. 

I'm not really that interested in seeing JRAD, but I don't want to feel ike I'm missing out, either.

--->I don’t care for the band name Phil Lesh’s Almost Dead

Funny!  and me neither

>>>if Phil Lesh was in JRAD

good idea, can we just do that?

^ it was called PhilRAD, happened in 2014 at the Cap, NYE run.

https://youtu.be/NZRccUPGFP4

Greg - Such GREAT Times With PHIL  ! Berkeley Berkeley Frost !!! walstib thanks for the Links

>good idea, can we just do that?

works for me

Haven’t checked Phil’s publicized summer schedule but it would make sense that he’d show up. I’ll consult my magic 8 ball later 

Phil will book his own gig at the Frost!

Jerry Garcia Acoustic Band

July 9, 1988

Frost Ampitheater 

Palo Alto, California 

Set 1:
Deep Elem Blues
I'm Troubled
I've Been All Around This World
Spike Driver Blues
Little Sadie
Blue Yodel No. 9 (Standing On The Corner)
Turtle Dove

Set 2:
Diamond Joe
Oh The Wind And Rain
Swing Low (Sweet Chariot)
Ripple

Encore 
Oh Babe, It Ain't No Lie
Goodnight Irene

 
     https://youtu.be/FITLO-woELc

It’s likely I’ll make the trip to see this  

More Frost shows:

The National
Sun, Sep 1 at 6:30PM
Frost Amphitheater

If anyone is booking rooms for this, I booked a room at the Creekside Inn, about 2.5 miles away -- they offer a free Tesla shuttle w/in a 5 mile range -- so Silicon Valley! 

Am holding this until I figure out what my Bay Area crew is doing after the show.... most of them live in Sonoma County, so not sure if they will want to drive home afterward.

Conflicts with Woodstock, 

Woodstock lineup is overwhelming to me in so many ways. Have fun if you go, CR! 

Last night was opening night at the newly renovated Frost. I didn't go but was able to hear the music anyway. Powerful new sound system, and the weather conditions were ripe for carrying the sound. At first, I didn't realize the music was coming from the Frost at first and thought it was just a neighborhood party.

https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2019/05/15/stanford-looks-forward-to...

A couple from last night...

Late afternoon into sunset into nighttime shows are going to work real well there, looking forward to going.

>>>Powerful new sound system<<<

The venue doesn't have a sound system of it's own, but the point is the same; now that they have professional rigging they can bring in big-league lighting & sound systems, which means they can now bring in big-league shows.

The question now is, how long before the neighbors begin a whining campaign and try to shut down the venue/demand draconian sound restrictions? I'm betting a dime they're already on it.

Tell 'em to hush and enjoy the music Nanz.

Lol, I’m on it but the grumpy neighbors on nextdoor.com have already mobilized. The general consensus though was that people were psyched to have the Frost up and running again. 

>Excited that the Frost is hosting concerts again! The music last night ended early enough. I’m guessing they have a 10 pm curfew. Sometimes because of weather conditions, the sound can bounce further away, as is also the case with the music coming from Shoreline Amphitheater and every outdoor concert venue in every City. I have tickets to a couple of upcoming shows at the Frost and look forward to hearing the music close up. Next summer sounds to expect will be fireworks coming from Stanford, local Graduations, swim meets, kids playing outdoors and even occasional thunder! Let’s not forget the constant airplane noise. None of which is  worth stressing about though.

There were 2 threads on nextdoor.com about the noise. First one was posted in the ‘Crime’ section and encouraged people to report the  noise to the police. Moderator pulled it. It was pretty funny, and like I said most neighbors didn’t seem to care and in fact were telling off the idiot who called the police while also explaining how the concert wasn’t violating any noise ordinances 

I prefer afternoon concerts so if the noise police get demanding it wouldn’t be so terrible. I don’t think that anything will have to change tho

We went to the Powwow on Mothers Day. First time seeing Stanford. 

Is the neighborhood around Palo Alto High School the neighborhood that hears the music? 

 the sound traveled to areas in East Palo Alto, Atherton, Menlo Park and Palo Alto. Allied Arts neighborhood from reports may have been impacted the hardest - or they’re just the biggest complainers. ‘It’s unbearable!!!’ They just  need to turn down their hearing aids 

>Per PA police: Leave a voicemail: Stanford office of special events--650-724-1387.

so yeah, to counter the complainers I shall call and say no problem, and you can too

When the inversion layer is happening EVERYone hears it.

The problem is there are lots of very rich & influential (redundant?) people living around Stanford.

Years ago when they organized against Shoreline the group was lead by George Schultz & Condoleezza Rice, so they were able to take their whine pretty far. Even then the best they could do was make a bunch of lawyers more rich and get a deal where for Shoreline to be fined there had to be a large number of complaints logged during a show, and then there had to be a large number of those marked shows before Shoreline would actually get dinged.

The local yokels would have complaint parties on show nights where one home would host the party and many neighbors would come and call in. Of course because they were all calling from the same phone it was obvious what they were doing. Gotta' love the inclusive Bay Area, where we're so open-minded and accepting (unless it annoys or offends us).

Those parties came to an end when one night a show had been canceled late and the fools started calling anyway to complain about the noise.

I don't think Frost is scheduling that many rock/loud shows this summer, likely for this reason, but they'll certainly want to ramp that up going forward, so this will be an on-going issue for sure.

They should do another bluegrass festival. 

The neighbors posting overwhelmingly support music at the Frost. It’s getting good:

‘official policy is to turn up the volume everytime someone calls the cops sorry i dont make the rules’

Bump for Saturday!  

Roll call...

1. China Rider and company

8/17/19  Frost (200th show)

Set 1

Jam (Morning In Marin, Howard Wales and Jerry Garcia)

Stranger

St Steven

Miracle

Jack Frost

China Cat Sunflower

I Know You Rider

Set 2

Estimated Prophet

Mission

Cumberland 

Viola Lee Blues

Franklins Tower

Throwing Stones

Standing On The Moon

Encore

CC Rider

checked our local nextdoor.com, not one complaint about the Frost. Learned the the Prolific Oven has closed.  And someone or something is poisoning squirrels. 

PS

JRAD put on an EPIC show at the Frost. 

DEAD men don't wear

Phil
Lesh's
Almost
Dead.

A really well played show, I thought the addition of the various horns was a nice touch, he fit in well and didn't get in the way by playing too much.  I hit the sack as soon as the first notes of Throwing Stones were played, good to see that I didn't miss anything monumental.

When did they add the pavilion roof to the place?  They did a nice job but it takes a little away from the bucolic atmosphere of the venue.

That stage structure is new, and was mandatory if the venue is going to be used for professional touring events, which the place never was before.

Bands tour with light and sound systems and they don't like playing venues that can't accommodate them. 

For the fans it allows shows to happen after dark, which takes away the surface-of-the-sun broil & glare aspect of the place, which is also a major plus IMO.

>>>>why don't more places terrace their venues?

initial cost plus cost of maintenance.    A stone curb will run $80 a linear foot for installation, a wall would be much more.   Then thrown in the footers for something more significant and the pain in the ass of getting mowers to each level and the venues don't really care.   People are rarely buying tickets for the venue (with a few exception, red rocks) so why invest if you just want to milk cash out of concert goers.   

Thanks Lance.

"Holy Music Molly" !

Just saw my first Jrad show,and Am Still Standing on the Moon.

Such great muscians and wonderful evening with friends.

Good seeing you Nancy in the tunnel.

Both shows were so much fun.... I really enjoyed the guest artists, though I"m not familiar w/ their work. Other highlights: 

1) Finding Zooey in lot G at Greek -- Thank you for your hospitality and know that you have a place to stay in Portland should you ever venture this far north for music.

2) Getting to say STFU to 4 women in front of us @ Greek who couldn't stop yakking -- first timers and they didn't care about the music. 

3) On the walk out, watching the strength of the nitrous mafia running 8-10 tanks at same time with fans swarming them like bees -- and cops looking the other way. Haven't seen it that thick in years. 

4) Going to see the Higgs at an after-party on Sunset Blvd. That lead guitarist seemed to adore having his hair blown around by the ceiling fans.

5) Getting picked up at SJC by my guy's old college buddy in a 66 Mustang .. no muffler, no seatbelts. 

6) Appreciating the friendly energy of a good old Bay area audience.

7) Excited to buy a poster since I went to both shows...but disappointed to see that there was a major mispelling of the word Stanford  sheesh!  Wish I would've caught this at the merch table.

I still think the 'mandatory' band shell looks Gawdy. Legendary spot though and im glad to have made the trip out to see Phil in 2002.

There's gawdy, and then there's GAWDY.

i guess i am in the minority on this but i feel like its Joe Bonamassa Dead...

There were definitely some hot moments at JRAD. I had a good time. 

8/17 Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu1lkp0EiLE

i guess i am in the minority on this but i feel like its Joe Bonamassa Dead...<<<

Ha. That is not too far from the truth.