Rant by John K on FB

9.3

go cry to your cat mittens.

Damn.   Ripping on the opening act like that.  Who pissed in his Cheerios?   Dude, you may have played with Phil and Bob, but you are no Miles Davis.

The calendar poster had my name spelled wrong. I mean, how hard is it to spell "Fake Jerry"?

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You should have stopped at ratfog.org..... 

Ehhh... All I can say is that less than primetime acts never bag on shitty opening bands.  P.S. to JK. The peak of GD cover bands has passed. You're on the outs my friend.

I'm seeing him Saturday night in our lil local venue in Stuart.

I'll be front and center with my fake Jerry shirt.

Maybe he will tell Florida to fuck off

I have nothing against the guy and generally like him as a player, but damn this is a bad look in every way.

looks like he deleted it from FB, i went on there out of morbid curiosity to find it removed...but i did find this absolute gem ; https://www.etix.com/ticket/json/files/get?file=3d4c6cf6-6d88-4e83-a7d2-...

in which he is referred to as "a founding member of furthur"

Aw.  Poor Bobby.

Headstash rocks 

Is it this head stash?

please tell me it is:

https://youtu.be/EKNkwKirDSQ

I hope that is E but I can confirm that this page is theirs and there is audio to their cover of “The Weight” by the Band, which is a great choice for a cover as it has rarely been heard in the jam-band music scene over the last 30 years. 

https://from-the-headstash.com/

>I'm seeing him Saturday night in our lil local venue in Stuart.

I'll be in Jensen Beach mid March.  I'd be happy to hook up.  We always bring northeast gifts to FL. 

It's the year of the pig click on this

 1970 at the great Highway a time when I wouldn't be bashing Bobby

blessings

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1488784971186866&id=14192403...

Wow what a toolbag.  A shitty attempt to passive-aggessively shit on the opening band by pulling a Deader Than Thou "I learned from Bob and Phil" card.

What a joke.  There is something to be said for a professional musician who makes his/her living off someone elses songbook.

Awhile back, I saw the John K Solo act in Paia, Maui. It was a terrible show.

Save your money. 

Gainesville's Premier Classic Jams Band

Some funny comments on the PT link above, such as:

"John Mayer would've done a sit in with Head Stash, torn up the second set, then f***** every woman in the venue."

“I suspect local clubs take advantage of your willingness to take any gig for peanuts as well as using you to scare off would-be fans from the the whole "Dead-cover/tribute band" scene in general” -

Fake Jerry Jr.

The only time I met him I was miking his amp, and couldn't get him to talk, lol

(complimented and asked him about his guitar, he cocked his head sideways, so I asked if he had a preferred mic placement, he cocked his head sideways again, lol)

To be fair KadleSheky is a complicated name to spell right. If you know what I mean..it ain't no Garcia.

That Hamilton Bowling acoustic explorations gig was most excellent. 

Kadleshrek? 

I'm not sure whether his latest post is an apology, a doubling down or a sorry not sorry:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2559162320767659&id=14962352...

9.6

Lol, print it out and ask him to sign it at his next gig.

In the "apology," JK says he and his band are "literally risking their lives" to play GD covers.  WTF is he talking about?  

I think Trump hacked his account.

He's talking about Lynyrd Skynyrd.

That might be true if he was playing Zappa covers while Gail was alive...    

Apology cut/paste, por favor?

His band Hairball Willy played what was supposed to be a 2 or 3 night stand at Northern Illinois University around 1994.  Him and his front man ended up late night at my apartment.  I owned a snake named Lurch , a Burmese Python who was about 6 feet long and was in his cage.  We hadn't fed him in months and accidentally unplugged his heat lamp for god knows how long.  College idiots.  Usually it is okay to hold the snake as he won't bite unless he can eat you.   JK tried to grab him and he bit JK's hand and Jk tried to remove the snake but it just kept rebiting his hand.  Like 50 puncture wholes.  He eventually freed his hand and threw the Lurch against the wall.   Lurch would be fine but JK hand blew up like a purple balloon.  We had to rush him to the hospitable around 4am.  I was shotgun.  They had to cancel the show and I think he was fucked up for a while.   Fucking hilarious.  True story.

The opener responds 

https://from-the-headstash.com/why-we-play/

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This thread made my day 

Wait.  Jay Lane has fans?

Response was class all the way.  Good for them.  JK's attitude is piss.  Sucks that he and that dude from Primus have fallen to such lows.   And I've liked many of their projects, big and small, for a long time...  :(

John- apologize and remove these posts. Take flat brimmers spot in JGB and stfu and play

Love you bigb

From his FB page, mid afternoon Weds

<<About yesterday:

I am sorry I mentioned the support band by name. They were forced on us by a promoter/venue team that chose to ignore the spirit of all gig negotiations, if not the letter.

And I am also sorry for other bands that might have seen themselves in my critique and were discouraged.

Armchair critique is totally lame (ahem, PT), and "punching down" is never cool, but you should know this: when you agree to get onstage as support (opening act) for a touring band who are literally risking their lives thousands of miles from home, you are claiming to be peers. You are no longer just a bunch of kids (or moms & dads) on youtube dreaming of making it... you are there. 

And peer review is brutal in this world. I certainly have taken my share, all my musical life starting at age 9, and I am a better musician for it.

Peace, Love, & Art,

-John >>

To which a buddy responded;

<< So the next you need an opening band in the northwest we will be happy to take any abuse you heap upon us.
https://www.facebook.com/DeepWoodsBand/ >>

Here are a few more responses; 

 << I'm a big fan, and already have my tickets for the next two nights in Boca! Having said that, you may want to take this post down too John...and I say that with the utmost respect. It doesn't serve you well. Its a half-assed apology. Good, bad, orunlistenable, they were booked by the same jerk as you were. Put yourselves in their shoes, when you were first starting out. Would YOU have turned down an opportunity to open for a national touring act you admire in the same musical genre?? You want to give them some peer advice, do it in private!! This post wouldnt make me feel any better if I were them. Just sayin... >>

<< Definitely not an apology, if the “letter” of what you negotiated didn’t specify two sets and no opener, that’s on you, “risking your life” may be a bit dramatic, local opening acts are at all different levels of proficiency - one of the reasons they’re local acts, you could give them advice and or encouragement, ending with a backdoor brag didn’t help...there are people who can help you craft social media posts. You probably know lots of them. Utilize them.   >>

<<Risking their lives? Are you entertaining the troops in a war zone?>>

<<You possibly had a chance for redemption - and you just took a hot shit on it.>>

<<And people wonder why Mayer plays with Bobby these days...>>

<< You're like the 8th best Jerry out there. You're not THAT special. Get off your high horse.>>

<<so.. doubling down on being a prick then? "risking your life" lol jesus christ man, you've made a living playing someone else's music and/or blatantly ripping them off. headstash's blog post had a million times more humility and truth than this "apology". get real.>>

<<I have opened for many national headliners. Every single one of them had a "right of refusal" clause in their contract rider. If the headliner, venue, promoter, agent or talent buyer wanted me off the bill---it was their prerogative to remove me. I'm not sure who is representing you? If you care so much about who is opening for you then write it up in your contract. Otherwise, shut up---play well, sing well and get paid. You're in cover band for Christ's sake, that's it. You aren't "risking your life" playing Bertha.>>

<<Thanks for “literally risking your lives thousands of miles from home”! You are such a brave man and an inspiration to all who dream about making it big copying other people’s work!>>

Is this the end?

the end of fake jerry?

Maybe the end of Fake Jerry #8, but not the end of the Fake Jerry phenomenon, no. 

F this guy.

Release the cats (jokes)!

Take your money and get the fuck out of town

go gators!

<chomp<chomp

Peace, Love, and Art

Art is a guy he knows right? 

High Dive, lol. Settle down, Mozart

I saw John K Band at Jerry Jam a few years ago. I thought they sucked, and I was embarrassed for the guy. He went from playing arenas with his “heros,” to the 2 pm spot at a small festival, sounding live an shitty and boring cover band.

Shades of Vinny?

"but you should know this: when you agree to get onstage as support (opening act) for a touring band who are literally risking their lives thousands of miles from home, you are claiming to be peers. You are no longer just a bunch of kids (or moms & dads) on youtube dreaming of making it... you are there."

Oh. My. God.

I've opened for too many 'national acts' that live in some sort of alternate reality.  Some were once real big while others have been plodding along playing mediocre venues.  The common denominator with most all of them: 'how the fuck did we end up here???'   No one wants to go from big stages to clubs and it's certainly a smash to the ego.  JK got lucky and was called up to the big leagues. His luck ran out. 

^^^^add to that the fact that his wife divorced him and took 1/2 his Furthur money.

His original rant read to me like he was pissed that the opening act drew more fans and applause than his lame band.

>>In the "apology,

Post the apology!

The abridged apology:

Im sorry I said that they suck, but they suck. I’m a fucking rockstar, risking my life to bring the fans my awesome fake Jerry act, so that suck-ass band better listen to me. I KNOW.

>^^^^add to that the fact that his wife divorced him and took 1/2 his Furthur money.

Ahh..Yeah that stings.

 
In other Further love drama it seems that John Popper is already divorced from the women he poached from Jeff P.

((( Mittens )))

maybe he can get a spot on the GGG bill?

JK and the Junkball Methfest Band

Spinal Tap never gets old.

Well said,Face.

TFB could use a 4th guitar....

>>>He went from playing arenas with his “heros,” to the 2 pm spot at a small festival, sounding live an shitty and boring cover band

It is an unfortunate path for him.   He had a perfectly good thing going when a rare opportunity showed up.   He took the chance and it's ended him in a far worse spot.   Kind of a pisser.   

Oh well. 

<<You possibly had a chance for redemption - and you just took a hot shit on it.>>

<< You're like the 8th best Jerry out there. You're not THAT special. Get off your high horse.>>

Clearly he's in a bad place if he's melting like this.   But love some of these comments. 

Should have stuck with DSO?

Highly unlikely that he ranks as high as the eighth Fake Jerry and it was really hard to get behind Further

 He may have been OK with DSO at one point 

two locals,  Matt Hartle and Stu Alan feel and emanate Jerry to me and for me -they are real  and feel something in their soul that they release. they are also kind and humble gentleman   And are 10 rungs above Just Kidding  on the  fake Jerry ladder

JoKe

I wonder how JK got Alan R StoneSculptor's work email address?

the best fake jerry is barry sless because the real jerry would never have played in a tribute band

Not to argue      But  Jerry did tons of covers and honored and played lots of traditional music.  first thought is old and in the way. And Barry is not really a fake Jerry from my perspective

Hmm, that's debatable. 

Barry isn't a "Fake Jerry" in terms of making a living playing Garcia material, but his tone and style are certainly derivative of Garcia's.  I have friends who (sad but true) don't like Barry because he sounds so much like Jerry and (actual quote) "he doesn't have an original lick of his own".

I guess it depends on how you define Fake Jerry.  I go with the "makes a living playing Garcia material" definition. 

I love Barry and wish he'd hit the east coast more often.

JGB was by and large a cover band.

JK was the OFJ.   Dude had both the guitar tone and vocals down.  The vocals were the biggest thing that blew me away when I first saw DSO back in 1999.

Ok...so who are 8 people better at doing Jerry than JK.   So far, this is the list you all have thrown out.   

1 Stu Alan

2 Matt Hartle

3 Sless....maybe, maybe not.   Tend to agree with Thom's friends. 

4

5

6

7

8

9 John K

1 Stu Alan

2 Matt Hartle

3 Sless....maybe, maybe not.   Tend to agree with Thom's friends. 

4

5

6

7

8 Ryan Adams

9 John K

What do Thom's friends have to say about Neil Casal? 

Put Cubensis Guy on that list (sorry I don't recall his name though I could easily pick him out of a line-up)

1 Stu Alan

2 Matt Hartle

3 Sless....maybe, maybe not.   Tend to agree with Thom's friends. 

4 Cubensis Guy

5

6

7 Mike Berry

8 Ryan Adams

9 John K

I’ll take Jeff Mattson over all of those fake Jerry’s 

They would probably say he's a good player.  Neil does not even come up in any sort of 'Fake Jerry' conversation.  

1 - Jeff Mattson 

2-  Stu Allen

Love to checkout Cubensis but they're pretty regional.

Grateful Shred is getting some chatter around our area, do they have a Jerry dude?

Does anyone know what's under TH's hat?

#6. Jackie Greene

guess your friends have never seen barry split the cosmos.

The guy from Jerry's Middle Finger has to be in the top three imho.

Even Barry played in a GD cover band.

Barry Sless is a better guitar player than Jerry Garcia. 

>>> Barry Sless is a better guitar player than Jerry Garcia.

Did you take a header on the last hike?

Barry has more stamina. He could make Tantric love to his guitar.

Didn't Jeff McPhearson (aka here as  Fat Donna)  have a similar rant a few years back?

Classic JK.

"What do Thom's friends have to say about Neil Casal?"

What Jonas said.  I wouldn't ever even consider putting Neil in that category.  Different animal altogether.

"Barry Sless is a better guitar player than Jerry Garcia."

Dead Jerry, yea.

The #1 fake Jerry has to be Zach Nugent. He even plays him in JGB. And, that’s all he’s got, Jerry and just Jerry.

And that guy that played GD 50....and we d have a list...i blv

<<<<Does anyone know what's under TH's hat?>>>>

The soft spot. 

barry's not better than jerry. that's silly.

Barry wouldn’t be the guitar player he is without Jerry existing and Jerry is obviously way more original, and a better composer but Barry is a better player.

Somebody please post the most cosmo splittin' Barry Sless gooey melt shred, let's see if it holds.

possibly...

barry don't sing neither.

jerry gave up on pedal...

too bad it was too easy to be a lazy druggo and play throwing stones for 25 yrs.

Had to share a few of the memes from the comments on JK's FB page today; 

"if you plant ice, you're going to harvest wind"

There's a guy up here in Seattle named Andy Coe who is a great Garcia interpreter.  His band has played at TXR, so maybe some of you have seen him.  Plays almost every Monday night for free here at the Blue Moon Tavern.  Really nice guy to boot.

Steve Kimock and Mark Karan could also be on the artificial Garcia list  (though both are excellent musicians, very nice guys,  and can do a lot more than play like Jerry) 

This is not going well for JK.

There's a guy up here in Seattle named Andy Coe who is a great Garcia interpreter.  His band has played at TXR, so maybe some of you have seen him.  Plays almost every Monday night for free here at the Blue Moon Tavern.  Really nice guy to boot.<<

Haven't heard him but there's a thumbnail or three on the front page of LMA.

>This is not going well for JK.

That's par for the course here. 

^ Probably hits home as you're an expert on failing at the internet.

I read today that JK’s ex took half his Furthur money :( 

Fake JK in DSO is a better Fake Jerry than the original Fake Jerry

Oh, good attempt at a burn there, Sarah. Have a cookie.

I was was referring to the fact that JK has always been dissed here. Not as badly as Ryan Adams or John Mayer. Btw, they both just teamed up on Fuck the Rain and it’s not bad. 

Fuck The Rain is terrible.  Almost JK bad.

Maybe - it’s all relative. Haha

I did just take a listen and it was better than other RA songs I’ve listened to

Sure do miss the good ole days when Phil came on to scold zoners who were critical of his boy

JK used to have protection from Rob Eaton when they were touring.

I haven't heard any good Ryan Adams songs.

I haven't heard any good Ryan Adams songs.

I haven't heard any good Ryan Adams songs.

I haven't heard any good Ryan Adams songs.

What sort of protection you talking about, Wiz?

got Trojans?  

well, warren for one has diddled jerry's corpse quite a bit...

i guess to be a fj, that's all you play...live.

full-time/part-time

Warren paid fine tribute  to Jerry at the symphony. 

00 Zach Nugent

0 Jeff Mattson

.1 Steve Kimock

.2 Warren's diddling

1 Stu Alan

2 Matt Hartle

3 Sless....maybe, maybe not.   Tend to agree with Thom's friends. 

4 Cubensis Guy

5 Grateful Shred Guy (probably)

5.5  TH  

6 Andy Coe

6.5 Mark Karan NY

7 Mike Berry

8 Ryan Adams

9 Johnny Rockstar 

9.5 Fake JK in DSO

10 (and falling...)  John K  

If we're including Mayer, he's gotta be way up in the rankings too. And I never dreamed I'd say that a couple years ago. 

Let us not forget Phil having an eargasm on stage in 2015, before the standards were lowered with the TFB. And Mayer's gotten considerably better with the material since then. 

His tone is thinner than Twiggy in her prime.

Opening band from that night...

https://www.facebook.com/headstashgnv/videos/371238560357306/?t=0

Is this really all that worse than what JK puts out?

are we both Head Stash fans now Thom? 

>>>Is this really all that worse than what JK puts

sounds and looks like an ideal band to b opening for jk to me

Pretty  much what I thought.  Wouldn't call myself a fan, but I'd gladly put up with it if I was in the unlikely position of waiting to see the JK Band.

I was more disturbed by the girl singers hand movements than the music.

headstash is better than a lot of shit.

"To Head Stash... you are, putting it kindly, not ready for prime-time, and I suspect local clubs take advantage of your willingness to take any gig for peanuts as well as using you to scare off would-be fans from the the whole "Dead-cover/tribute band" scene in general."

lol. Well done Daylight

yeah i mean i'd be into the scene...but the barefoot guitar player and the not hot enough chicks kinda blew it...

>>>The #1 fake Jerry has to be Zach Nugent. He even plays him in JGB. And, that’s all he’s got, Jerry and just Jerry

The other fake Jerry's blow him away in improvisation.  His tone is beautiful though.

lol, another statement from John k

"Ah, geez... exhaustion, long travel, & some hard times caught up with me, and my usual good judgment went out the window, apparently.

Shit went sideways last Monday in Gainesville, and while I wasn't trying to "take it out" on the opening act, they were an innocent party not deserving of being brought into the fray, and I am deeply sorry.

It was never about the money, fyi... I am just protective of both the musicians who are kind enough tour with me, and the occasional fans who make long distance treks to catch random shows in areas we don't play very often.

I hope my friends and fans who may have been shocked to see my post can realize this was pretty much a once-in-3000-shows screw up and find it in their hearts to forgive this lapse.

Peace."

I’m sure his three fans will forgive him.

before long, head stash will be bringing in bigger crowds than john k. 

karma

Boooo    He should have doubled down and torn them to shreds.   I would have had more respect for him.  

>>in which he is referred to as "a founding member of furthur"

To be fair, that is probably the promoter and not JK.

>>Didn't Jeff McPhearson (aka here as  Fat Donna)  have a similar rant a few years back?

McP got pissed at me for a comment on some political post of his on FB and went off on me before be blocked me.   Dissed me as a musician.  I posted it on my FB page and the general consensus was, who the fuck is Jeff McPhearson?   

>>Steve Kimock and Mark Karan could also be on the artificial Garcia list  (though both are excellent musicians, very nice guys,  and can do a lot more than play like Jerry) 

Dave Hebert also pays fine tribute to Jerry but also plays a lot more than that.  Kimock and Karan are both beautiful players that I have been honored to play with.

This.

JK HAS PLAYED 3,000 SHOWS HAVE SOME RESPECT HE’S RISKING HIS LIFE 

Saw this band on Saturday night and they ripped my fuckin face off.

Tangle up in blue was worth the price of admission alone. $22

Got to talk and hang with Jay Lane before the show.

Boomers were starting to take effect quickly when John walked by us and I said "Hi fake Jerry" with a huge shroom smile.

Jay laughed HARD and told me that was uncool but we kept on giggling.

Fake Jerry was pissed.

>>Boomers were starting to take effect quickly when John walked by us and I said "Hi fake Jerry" with a huge shroom smile.

Jay laughed HARD and told me that was uncool but we kept on giggling.

Fake Jerry was pissed.<<

Lol, that's good.  Well done.

A friend of mine has this joking obsession with dicks and brought a rock shaped like a dick to a show a few years back and JK walked by us post show and she blurts out "Hi John!  Hold my dick rock!" and he looked all confused.

Did anyone yell out:  "Put on Head Stash!   We want Head Stash!"

good stories.

dick rock

mcpherson vs. shakin'

JK must have had a few drinks after that less than optimal Gainesville experience. Instead of logging onto FB, he should have gone back to his hotel room, masturbated, watch 2 MASH episodes and go to sleep.

Poor decision making.