Your Least Favorite Grateful Dead Member

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Mickey Hart by a country mile.  The guy sucks and should never have been allowed to rejoin.  Too bad he’s gonna be the last living member.

He sucks now but he didn't used to suck.

For me I guess it would be late-era Brent.

Mickey is the answer 

Barney.

>>>He sucks now but he didn't used to suck.

 

The thing that concerns me about that comment in regards to this thread is that it could arguably b applied to any of the surviving members of the GD.

The beam and some decent side projects have kept me off the Mickey hate band wagon, although I do prefer grateful dead music with one drummer.

I've never been much of a Bobby guy and I think kreutzman's a little overrated.

Vince

I’d listen to 1000 Samba In The Rains before I’d listen to any Mickey Hart sung songs.

besides the obvious answer of vince...

i have a huge respect for his massive talent, and massive influence on the band and would not even begin to say he is bad or i dislike him...but aside from vince the GD member i most seldom find myself being blown away by is pigpen.

"Lucky Day Timmy Hoover on Saturday, January 26, 2019 – 04:57 pm

I’d listen to 1000 Samba In The Rains before I’d listen to any Mickey Hart sung songs"

It's the end of the world!!!! I agree with this person...... :(

MH's rap cadence > T- Ham's falsettos 

65-95: Vince

95-present: They’re all about the same 

NONE thanks for playing

 

 

GD

>>>The thing that concerns me about that comment in regards to this thread is that it could arguably b applied to any of the surviving members of the GD<<<

Phil doesn't suck now, and really neither does Bob.

The music they make isn't always great, but that too could be said about any era of the Grateful Dead.

And poor Vince. He always takes the fall for the overall shitshow the band was during his time.

Maybe a more interesting choice for the OP would be late-era Jerry, as no one in the band fell more from their prime, and was ultimately more disappointing.

 

 

(BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!)

Brent at his worst sounds better than Vince at his best. 

Because soul

>>>>Maybe a more interesting choice for the OP would be late-era Jerry, as no one in the band fell more from their prime, and was ultimately more disappointing.

 

Good point except I think I speak for everyone when I say I’d rather hear Jerry play a song at his worst than Mickey play a song at his best.

Dylan

Lesh gave him the thumbs down...

I agree with Jerry 93-95. He consistently didn’t live up to expectations or ticket costs. Vince was Vince, and I didn’t expect a hell of a lot.

Imagine how terrible Janis Joplin would be if she was still alive.

Imagine how old Jerry would look if he were still alive. He looked like he was 40 when he was 25, and 75 when he was 50.

It’s true.  He’d still look better than Tom Constanten though.

"And poor Vince. He always takes the fall for the overall shitshow the band was during his time."

Great attitude, not a bad player, but his tone was just about always awful. 

I pick Donna.

Donna-

sang flat / sang off key....ruined a lot of tunes.

Even Garcia said she couldn't hear herself on stage.

 

Got no truck with Mickey- he carried his load. His on stage  stick throwing tantrum with Matthew Kelly  in 1985 was total bush league however.

Whoever replaced Dan Healy

Anger issues ego issues

 

Vince. Not totally his fault, though.

The bond between Jerry and Brent that had flourished in the 1980's could never be duplicated.

Great thread. I’m gonna go with Bobby. The guy has done some of the most terrible GD music I’ve ever heard in my life.  He continues the misery day aim and day out. Definitely number one in my book. He makes laugh how terrible he is right now.

 

Mickey, Vince, Donna and Hornsby are all solid choices as well, IMO.

The CIA and FBI

Dana Morgan, Jr.

Whoever's been making the brown acid! 

Ok DANA Morgan - good awareness ( for a cute stretch )  with DANA senior having the coolest music store by the way with Jerry teaching banjo to My bud DANA SIMONS and everything

 Didn't they invent stereo microphones with no monitors to catch for time delay because Donna was deaf basically 

PIGPEN BLOWING MINDS

i'm assuming you meant by how  amazing he was (excluding the keys).  Miss the old VOX tho

Late day fucked up Brent still spit fire...and yeah knotseua...soul.

Gimme some lovin'...

 

Bill Walton

thinks he is 

Bill K. Had little empathy for Vince in his book and he talked of the eight legged octopus of power he and Hart shared for a while.

 

Famfam, Hart"s Daddio fucked a lot.

Bob bralove

I stopped going to shows because of Jerry's inconsistency. 

 Vince did help push me out the door.

I have never been a Mickey fan.

And Donna is just awful. 

Considering the above,  my vote goes to Donna.

Dana Morgan was never a member of the Grateful Dead

Maybe a more interesting choice for the OP would be late-era Jerry, as no one in the band fell more from their prime, and was ultimately more disappointing<<<<

Does this entail he was "least favorite" because he didn't get his shit together sufficiently to sustain the "giant monster" that was demanded of him from a gazillion different directions? 

Great thread. I’m gonna go with Bobby. The guy has done some of the most terrible GD music I’ve ever heard in my life.  He continues the misery day aim and day out. Definitely number one in my book. He makes laugh how terrible he is right now<<<<

You've just earned 3 in house "credits" on the zone; entitling you to either a novelty plastic mustache or an oversized comb?

^I gotta throw in an honorable mention to Phil Leah. His bullshit with Terrapins family Band is just as bad as anything Bobby has ever done. It’s like going to see school of rock perform Grateful Dead with Phil. That’s all I got. 

If i had to vote....

 

 

Donna

I've never been much of a Bobby guy and I think Kreutzman's a little overrated.>>>

After Hart left, Feb '71>Oct'74, Bill ruled as a single, and Bob's playing rhythm matured and was monstrous.

Replacing Healy with Cutler/Bralove was definitely as step backward the last 2 years.

mmmmmmmmmm   so stinky

>>>Does this entail he was "least favorite" because he didn't get his shit together sufficiently to sustain the "giant monster" that was demanded of him from a gazillion different directions<<<

No, Jerry would never be my "least favorite".

I was just trying to stir the thread a bit.

I quit seeing the Dead in 1993 because I had had it with Jerry (weak spring and summer tour 1992 and canceling my birthday show in Veneta, thought Cap Centre 1993 was disappointing and said that's it and sold my other tix for that tour ) but Jerry was a victim of his own success

Always liked Bobby and Phil, even during the big split of the last decade. Most deadheads are the same BTW

Was not a fan of Vince's vocals but blamed his terrible keyboards on Bob Bralove (read some interview with him in the early 90s and it made me loathe the guy and his mission)

When it became clear that Donna was sing-shouting on my favorite era of the Dead just so she could hear herself, my dislike of her diminished. I like her on the '76-'78 Dead and JGB (especially)

That leaves Mickey. (disclosure: I have been playing drums since I was 11). I HATE his "I'm the son of a champion snare drummer!" drumming in his first stint, though by 1970 he had toned it down (with hard drugs and humiliation). His later tenure in the Dead made more sense but damn every single time I read something he said or heard him on the GD Hour or whatever, I thought he was a pretentious dick. A few firsthand accounts I have heard about him leave no question that in assessment. 

 

 

 

 

DANA Morgan Junior was playing bass when Bobby walked by and heard them practicing

 

so technically no, he wasn't in the grateful dead just like technically Donald Trump is not the leader of our country nor even a president

 It's possible you feel otherwise , but just stay on LSD threads ,  you're doing well

 

 

DANA Morgan Junior was playing bass when Bobby walked by and heard them practicing

 

so technically no, he wasn't in the grateful dead just like technically Donald Trump is not the leader of our country nor even a president

 It's possible you feel otherwise , but just stay on LSD threads ,  you're doing well

I guess it's worth saying  twice,  and I'm an idiot too

IMO Dana Morgan should be one of all our favorites.

If he was a better bass player Jerry may never have asked Phil to join.

So major shout-outs to Dana for not being too good!

Lols.  

 

Me too......

I was just trying to stir the thread a bit<<<<

Now if only Thom (and others) would fess up ... it'd save the country a lot of unecessary pain.

If we are talking about The Grateful Dead...1965-1995 the only track I am aware of Mickey singing and I think it was in the studio was Happiness Is Drumming which the vocals don't sound great on but it did give us a Grate song in Fire On The Mountain. 

As a percussionist from 1979-1995, the years I saw The Grateful Dead, I enjoyed the sounds Mickey made for the most part. 

Donna Jean gets my vote. Kind of a no brainer in my humble opinion. 

For years I have been tempted to design a bumper sticker....

Mickey(or just leave blank and see who gets it), Sit down, Shut up, and play the drums.  Although now that last one is beyond him.

If I never see Bobby again, no problem.

The story I heard is that Jerry was so broke up over Brent's death that he would not allow any of the replacements  to play the B3. Hence no-one came close to replacing him.  And Jerry played very few good GD shows after he(Brent) passed.

I guess Phil is the only remaining member I will pay to see, and he has to have a good band around him.