It's a terribly sad time for California, I wasn't focused on that when I started this thread in the middle of the night, I hope things get better, its just been a horrific time lately. In regards to Cape Mendocino not being the farthest west, and I concede I was mistaken about that...but does that mean that the actual map looks more like this? How can that be correct?
in that YouTube video linked in the OP's 2nd post, the endpoint of the ultra runner's trek is the Mattole Campground...
... fun fact, I live 6 miles from the Mattole Campground, in Petrolia, CA
until about 2 years ago, Petrolia had an establishment (the Yellow Rose, since closed up) that served beer, wine, hard liquor, food, and attitudes that wouldn't quit... we used to claim that "The Rose" was the furthest western bar in the lower 48, but no one ever took the time to actually confirm that assertion
For the past many years I've had a theory, I'm sure others have the same theory, but that as mankind continues to migrate west, it's logically the best & brightest, the most adventurous that disproportionately comprise the demographic of the American West, it isn't coincidence or happenstance that the revolution of consciousness is rooted in the farthest westerly points of the good earth...it's divine providence. I think that's what Jerry likely thought of when he sang those lyrics. Go west young man, go west!
"Because" is a song written by John Lennon (credited to Lennon–McCartney) and recorded by the Beatles in 1969. It features a prominent three-part vocal harmony by Lennon, McCartney and George Harrison, overdubbed twice to make nine voices in all. It first appeared on Abbey Road(1969), immediately preceding the extended medley on side two of the record.
Ah, because the world is round It turns me on Because the world is round
Ah, because the wind is high It blows my mind Because the wind is high
Ah, love is old, love is new Love is all, love is you
Because the sky is blue It makes me cry Because the sky is blue
Ah, ah, ah, ah
yep, that's the (now defunct) Yellow Rose on the outskirts of Petrolia, CA
it might not have been the furthest west bar in the lower 48, but it certainly was the westernmost bar in the state of California
I have lived in Petrolia for 38 years, and over that time I spent literally tens of thousands of dollars in that establishment, no joke... and no regrets
For the past many years I've had a theory, I'm sure others have the same theory, but that as mankind continues to migrate west, it's logically the best & brightest, the most adventurous that disproportionately comprise the demographic of the American West, it isn't coincidence or happenstance that the revolution of consciousness is rooted in the farthest westerly points of the good earth...it's divine providence. I think that's what Jerry likely thought of when he sang those lyrics. Go west young man, go west!<<<<
While there might be something to what you say, consider how our nation's westerward expanstion / "manifest destiny" affected those who were here first?
Likewise, the west was closely intertwined with our nation's early struggle with coming to terms with Slavery.
>it isn't coincidence or happenstance that the revolution of consciousness is rooted in the farthest westerly points of the good earth...it's divine providence<
Sorry, B-ry, your premise has so many holes in it that it’s just asinine.
Virtually every white American has ancestors that were adventurous and headed West. Your premise is that those who went to CA were even more free of thought.
One in six Americans has ancestors that went through Ellis Island. How exactly were they less adventurous than those who headed out for the gold rush?
About 6,000 years ago there lived a people referred to today as the Proto-Indo Europeans, also sometimes referred to as Aryans because their original location was around the Aral Sea. They were agriculturists and big time horse-riders. Since agricultural systems are prone to cyclical bouts of famine, at around 6,000 years ago these Aryans began to migrate both East and West roughly along the same latitude they lived at before, because these latitudes allowed them to continue implementing their agricultural technologies. Because of their advanced bronze age technology, they were able to conquer many people in a short time. This migration would be the basis of massive population growth through all of South and Central Asia, with India being the main location, and towards the West the Aryans would become the Celtic peoples who dominated Europe from about that time (little later) well into the early days of the Roman Empire. The Aryans had pretty rigid social hierarchization which became the Caste system in India.
So, westward migration was largely just a result of massive famine in Central Asia 6,000 years ago related to the desertification of the planet in a period of massive warming. It's really got nothing to do with being capable or smart, more with being shit out of luck and looking for more opportunities and NOT heading in the direction you came from.
I don't know if any of this information is useful to anyone, but it's pretty interesting to me.
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https://youtu.be/e2qhwvUUPoY
https://youtu.be/e2qhwvUUPoY
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^...and the farthest westerly
^...and the farthest westerly point of the continental United States
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Style on people, keep it real!
come gather round people wherever you roam
https://youtu.be/yb64SSYBBH0
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>>>>>>.and the farthest
>>>>>>.and the farthest westerly point of the continental United States
nope
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Googled it
Googled it, Most Western Point: Cape Alava, Washington, at 124º 44'W.
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And while that's true (Cape
And while that's true (Cape Alava being farthest west in the lower 48)
You can drive to the lighthouse on the 2nd farthest point west in the lower 48,
Cape Blanco in Oregon (took these pics a few years ago)
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Corvallis, Oregon –
Corvallis, Oregon – westernmost city of more than 50,000 residents in the 48 contiguous states. I live 10 miles west of there.
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I stand corrected
I stand corrected
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Mendocino
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It always looked that way when you stare at a map
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Didn't know that about
Didn't know that about Corvallis (and i've lived there for almost 40 years)
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Nevada is further west than
Nevada is further west than San Diego.
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I had always heard the old
I had always heard the old bar bet as Reno v. Los Angeles
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Why would they do this in
Why would they do this in winter? We here call it home !
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It's a terribly sad time for California, I wasn't focused on that when I started this thread in the middle of the night, I hope things get better, its just been a horrific time lately. In regards to Cape Mendocino not being the farthest west, and I concede I was mistaken about that...but does that mean that the actual map looks more like this? How can that be correct?
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I suppose it's the curvature
I suppose it's the curvature of the earth, and I get that...but it's still is a bit puzzling
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I'd like to take this
I'd like to take this opportunity to celebrate something that we so rarely celebrate;
The 45th Parallel !!!!
Sometimes one can't emphasize enough the awesomeness of this planetary imaginary line (haven't done a line in eons)
So without further ado (though farther may actually apply in this case, and leaving remorse for the CA wildfires in the other thread)
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Not sure what this thread is
....whoops wrong account
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When you stare at some maps
When you stare at some maps why does Alaska get the shaft, shown under the mainland?
On a side note: I've sailed topless near the equator at zero degrees latitude. Quite warm ;)
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I guess it is just the curvature of the earth
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in that YouTube video linked
in that YouTube video linked in the OP's 2nd post, the endpoint of the ultra runner's trek is the Mattole Campground...
... fun fact, I live 6 miles from the Mattole Campground, in Petrolia, CA
until about 2 years ago, Petrolia had an establishment (the Yellow Rose, since closed up) that served beer, wine, hard liquor, food, and attitudes that wouldn't quit... we used to claim that "The Rose" was the furthest western bar in the lower 48, but no one ever took the time to actually confirm that assertion
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over here
...over here
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I stand corrected<<<
I stand corrected<<<
I would gladly say this in a heartbeat if it turns out I was mistaken
In a left handed way, I'm routing for myself to be wrong
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>>>>>we used to claim that
>>>>>we used to claim that "The Rose" was the furthest western bar in the lower 48,
Port Orford OR is farther west and has at least one bar. There may also be a bar or two on the W. end of the Straits of Juan de Fuca in WA.
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For the past many years I've
For the past many years I've had a theory, I'm sure others have the same theory, but that as mankind continues to migrate west, it's logically the best & brightest, the most adventurous that disproportionately comprise the demographic of the American West, it isn't coincidence or happenstance that the revolution of consciousness is rooted in the farthest westerly points of the good earth...it's divine providence. I think that's what Jerry likely thought of when he sang those lyrics. Go west young man, go west!
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lol
lol
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Looking SSE from Port Orford
Looking SSE from Port Orford on the beautiful Oregon Coast (from 8/16, and yes, there's liquor!)
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>>>>>is rooted in the
>>>>>is rooted in the farthest westerly points of the good earth
Bryen, are you a member of the flat earth society?
It would explain so much.
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I'm not
https://youtu.be/hL0tnrl2L_U
Because
The Beatles
"Because" is a song written by John Lennon (credited to Lennon–McCartney) and recorded by the Beatles in 1969. It features a prominent three-part vocal harmony by Lennon, McCartney and George Harrison, overdubbed twice to make nine voices in all. It first appeared on Abbey Road(1969), immediately preceding the extended medley on side two of the record.
Ah, because the world is round It turns me on Because the world is round
Ah, because the wind is high It blows my mind Because the wind is high
Ah, love is old, love is new Love is all, love is you
Because the sky is blue It makes me cry Because the sky is blue
Ah, ah, ah, ah
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A recent pic of a bunch of us
A recent pic of a bunch of us
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^^^ haha Bryen
^^^ haha Bryen
yep, that's the (now defunct) Yellow Rose on the outskirts of Petrolia, CA
it might not have been the furthest west bar in the lower 48, but it certainly was the westernmost bar in the state of California
I have lived in Petrolia for 38 years, and over that time I spent literally tens of thousands of dollars in that establishment, no joke... and no regrets
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For the past many years I've
For the past many years I've had a theory, I'm sure others have the same theory, but that as mankind continues to migrate west, it's logically the best & brightest, the most adventurous that disproportionately comprise the demographic of the American West, it isn't coincidence or happenstance that the revolution of consciousness is rooted in the farthest westerly points of the good earth...it's divine providence. I think that's what Jerry likely thought of when he sang those lyrics. Go west young man, go west!<<<<
While there might be something to what you say, consider how our nation's westerward expanstion / "manifest destiny" affected those who were here first?
Likewise, the west was closely intertwined with our nation's early struggle with coming to terms with Slavery.
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The whole "westering" thing
The whole "westering" thing is just an accident of history. If the Chinese had "discovered" America in 1491 we would now be talking about "eastering".
In Chinese.
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>it isn't coincidence or
>it isn't coincidence or happenstance that the revolution of consciousness is rooted in the farthest westerly points of the good earth...it's divine providence<
Are you the racist GOP congressman Steve King?
Because you sure sound like him.
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Sorry, B-ry, your premise has
Sorry, B-ry, your premise has so many holes in it that it’s just asinine.
Virtually every white American has ancestors that were adventurous and headed West. Your premise is that those who went to CA were even more free of thought.
One in six Americans has ancestors that went through Ellis Island. How exactly were they less adventurous than those who headed out for the gold rush?
Your premise is also inherently racist.
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About 6,000 years ago there
About 6,000 years ago there lived a people referred to today as the Proto-Indo Europeans, also sometimes referred to as Aryans because their original location was around the Aral Sea. They were agriculturists and big time horse-riders. Since agricultural systems are prone to cyclical bouts of famine, at around 6,000 years ago these Aryans began to migrate both East and West roughly along the same latitude they lived at before, because these latitudes allowed them to continue implementing their agricultural technologies. Because of their advanced bronze age technology, they were able to conquer many people in a short time. This migration would be the basis of massive population growth through all of South and Central Asia, with India being the main location, and towards the West the Aryans would become the Celtic peoples who dominated Europe from about that time (little later) well into the early days of the Roman Empire. The Aryans had pretty rigid social hierarchization which became the Caste system in India.
So, westward migration was largely just a result of massive famine in Central Asia 6,000 years ago related to the desertification of the planet in a period of massive warming. It's really got nothing to do with being capable or smart, more with being shit out of luck and looking for more opportunities and NOT heading in the direction you came from.
I don't know if any of this information is useful to anyone, but it's pretty interesting to me.