Whyyyy?? (Children content)

>>> Why why why do children think they know better than an adult?

because their heads haven't been filled with decades of bullshit.

One day those kids are going to bring you with them on a deep dive into the youtube world of flat earth theory, and you're going to be grateful, Flops.

Very, very grateful.

It's good to be among the cognoscenti, and it sounds like your kids are already two steps ahead. No bs.

If you're arguing with teens you're losing.  Don't get so defensive floops. 

JR gets it 

floops, go to law school...you will (l)earn your kids back quickly

Don't take it personally. Kids become that way at around 12. In about 10 years or so they will probably turn back into human beings if you raised them right.

((((((((((((Floops)))))))))))))

feel better man

Damn.

It's hard to say much without better details, but ultimately it sounds like your kid/s is just trying to push your buttons and challenge you, subconsciously searching for boundaries and their own footing.

That sort of thing is natural, and if I remember correctly your family situation is fractured & complex, which makes it all more complex & difficult for all of you.

My advice as a non-parent but LONG time teacher is stay calm and not react emotionally in the moment, and then go back at a later time and calmly have a conversation about it.... "it" being appropriate, mature communication, not whatever the original subject was.

Or if that doesn't work just don't kill them, because they will grow out of it.

Good luck.

I don’t know, maybe your parents would somewhat disagree with your assertion that you were respectful and heeded their life experience advice. I sure as hell wasn’t listening to my parents.

It’s their job to push boundaries like that. It’s also their job to learn for themselves. What you choose to do with it is up to you.

Personally, I almost never gave my kids advice based on my past experiences. I hated that shit when I was a kid, and wasn’t about to pass it down the line.

Remember, Floops, parenting is often best when we leave our egos at the door. 

>>>kids become that way at around 12. In about 10 years or so they will probably turn back into human beings if you raised them right.

This.  Its been a basic human dynamic since the dawn of time.

I've been mastering "the dad look", which is a timeless show of masculine authority that children instinctually recognize in their primal hindbrains.

I've never had to raise my voice to my daughter; my silent look of disappointment is sufficiently devastating to her to inspire an immediate change in behavior.

Cool St. Mark!  Surely your wife gets some sort of special treatment.  Do you let her out of the basement to cook and clean?

>>> Don't take it personally. Kids become that way at around 12. In about 10 years or so they will probably turn back into human beings if you raised them right. <<<

And when they do, they will think that you know things, and that they taught you everything you know. For real.

My parents knew a lot of stuff,  but could not twist up a spliff if their lives depended upon it.

However,  they were both pretty good at Driving,  and Mom was a great Cook.

But I can relate to your complaint.  My Siberian Hüsky is a wonderful Dawg,  but does not listen.  He always knows better.

Floops,

I hear you loud and clear. 

I'm in the middle of parental processing mode, made more complex by current judiciary/political events. So, I may not have some sage advice, but I want you to know that you aren't alone.  

Hang in there, 

John

>>>Cool St. Mark!  Surely your wife gets some sort of special treatment.  Do you let her out of the basement to cook and clean?

Are you trolling me because you don't have a family of your own, 4Winds? 

I have some good news for you, Mark, and some bad news.

The good news is that the “look” works like a charm and will serve you well.

The bad news is that you have about 7-8 more years of it working. One day you’re going to give that look to your pubescent daughter, and she’ll give you a look back that will beat the shit out of you.

Enjoy it while you can.

I've heard this from other father's too, BK.

That's why she'll be heading to Catholic school. 

My wife and I have 7 kids between us (I had 2 coming in, she had 4 coming in, and we just had one of our own 3 weeks ago), and I can tell you that from my experience the boys seem to be the know-it-all's more than the girls do. We have 4 boys and 3 girls. The girls come to us with questions, listen to our advice or non-advice, and after a discussion will apply it to their situation. Sometimes it works for them, sometimes it doesn't but they are learning to trust what they feel inside and make decisions based on various criteria (feelings, logic, etc.). Occasionally will we see that know-it-all attitude. Very occasionally.

The boys on the other hand just know everything. Try to tell them anything and they look at you like you have 4 heads and are telling them something they've known since they were a sperm in your nutsack. They don't ask questions, then make stupid decisions and come to you after the fact to fix it. This isn't necessarily an example of that, but it's an example of the non-willingness to actually "listen" to what they are being told.

Me: (teaching the 17 yr old boy to drive) Do you know that when there's an emergency vehicle behind you with it's lights and sirens on you should safely move to the side so they can get where they're going?

Him: Well, yeah, that just seems common sense.

Me: Right, and so is stopping at stop signs, but you just ran through one 10 minutes ago.

So, short story long, Floops, I am right there with you. I, too, keep hearing they grow out of it, but I'm not sure that's gonna happen. We shall see...

This thread needs more Carlin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMpiL-JU4jM

It is cute reading about the child-raising tales here.

My Dad taught me how to drive with a Standard transmission 4WD Truck,  and then set me loose with a "Farm License".

So I could drive myself to school a bit underage,  with a Hay-Bale in the bed.

I learned many positive lessons from all that.  

"Yes Mr. Officer,  I am delivering Hay."

So I am glad that Hüsky has not figured out "stick-shift" yet.  He would steal my truck if he could.

I don't believe anything Stu says. - Parent of 8 year old boy. 

Knote --

It's important that you disbelieve whatever I type.

Your kids don't believe you either.
However,  anybody would agree,  Hüsky has Excellent teeth.

No, St. Mark.  Don't get it twisted.  Your job around here seems to be super troll and I'm just serving you some shit.

Something something cat litter something.

Thanks for stopping by the parenting thread, 4winds.

> I have no power in the situation. I have to give in. But there go my values too. It's a shitty situation. I'm not defensive; I'm in a hell of a situation and venting. You could say I'm offended.

yep, sounds like what every  parent of teens has to go though. just keep the lines of communication  open with your kids. doesn't matter if you're "right" or not. they're teens and they're going to "shit in the nest" - it's the teens way of getting ready to fly.  deep down your kids are  listening to everything you're telling them, but most teens just need to be oppositional. resistance is futile.  at some point, when they're ready they'll return to visit the nest and  will likely  apologize. try and keep your cool and just be there for your teens, even when they're driving you nuts. try family counseling, if only to figure out how to talk to each other and keep it civil. 

Floops, don't ever expect to win or have them acknowledge you are ever right, ever. Number 2, you are the Dad therefore you need to sack up and not take things personally.

4winds bucking up to Mark is quite refreshing. There may be hope for this place.

4Winds has been "bucking up" to me for like seven years, Fo6.

Hope is where you find it.

Cat litter? Since you have nothing, I guess made up stories are your specialty.  I think you would do well writing nursery rhymes.

Haven't ventured into nursery rhymes yet, but my stories involving the magical adventures of my daughter & her stuffed animals go over pretty well at bedtime. 

St. mark is now special because he procreated.  What else have you gifted the world with, there was a John Mayer thread one time?

That's pretty much it, 4Winds.

I win. 

I don't think so, how do you explain the receding hairline on daddy? 

Genetics, mostly. Hair is optional for men. 

Sorry you have bad genes. Optional- likely story.  I bet you look in the mirror and notice every single one of the hairs you still have at this point.

someone please "druba" this thread 

No, I'm not particularly sensitive. I do recognize it as a tell when I've gotten under a zoner's skin tho.

I'm sorry you didn't have children, 4Winds. That has to be tough.

I don't think you would realize a tell if I had a royal flush.

Try not to give yourself so much credit, it seems hard for you to accept reality.

One more consecutive post, and you could have won the thread.

So close.

Why does any of this matter?

>>> I'm sorry you didn't have children, 4Winds. That has to be tough. <<<   Why is it tough that someone doesn't have children? Some of us never wanted them.

Why does it matter that someone does or doesn't have hair? And by the way, hair is optional for women, too.

Of course none of this matters at all. It's all just bickering bullshit, right?

Go Rockies!

Are you one to count consecutive posts? It does show attention to detail but kind of sad at the same time.

I'm a very detailed man, 4Winds. 

You would have been perfect for Seinfeld.

https://youtu.be/aZHvd0ks7Es

>>>You would have been perfect for Seinfeld

Great show.

for like seven years,>>>

Not like this bro bro ! 

I suggest you back down from this one, 4winds has been on a solid roll here lately and this may not end well for you, just lookin out.

Why does it matter that someone does or doesn't have hair?>>>

Well if that same person is fashion shaming people and counter douche trolling ect ect ect then it becomes more relative.

Bald is beautiful !

Why does any of this matter?>>>>>>>

Another question is what do you win or lose on a DBMB for winning or losing an exchange????  DBMB cred?????? hahahaabwahhaaaaaaaa, nobody cares, get over it !

Been thinking about you, Floops.

Thats correct, you ARE an ass floops

Stu is the hole

Hall - I see you there. Still the same shtick on children all these many years combining into a dream...Stella Blue.

Is Fo6 blathering again?

Lol