Seems he is so rich that reality does not exist for him. Everything is a toy. Not criticizing, his reality is different than ours. Wish I was that rich. Or 1/100th that rich.
From every account I have heard he is a total and complete asshole. It is apparently a requirement for leadership in tech. For all the “forward” thinking they sure love their 1930’s corporate hierarchies and income disparities. It is one thing to be Jobs, Bezos, Ellison, or Musk and act like they do, but every mid-level manager up feels like they have to act like that to. Working in tech has just become a shit show of sprints and “unlimited” vacation days but only if all your work is done. Yes I’m bitter.
As my boss likes to say. The pace of change has never been faster than it is today, and it will never be this slow again.
Elon Musk could go down as the greatest Gen Xer ever; which is saying something considering the overall greatness of Gen Xers in general (we're the true heirs to The Greatest Generation. The Boomers are basically the mutant offspring of the Atomic Age.)
In fact, if Elon gets humanity to Mars as he intends, he will go down as one of the GOATs from any generation, ever.
I was watching a business channel yesterday where of course they showed him smoking herb, but they were talking about this rumor that he was on the precipice of some kind of quantum leap breakthrough in regards to AI...which is a bit concerning really, it would kind of explain his behavior lately, kind of like who cares, it will all be irrelevant soon enough. TSLA had a rough week.
>Elon Musk could go down as the greatest Gen Xer ever; which is saying something considering the overall greatness of Gen Xers in general (we're the true heirs to The Greatest Generation<
Curious, Mark, who would you rate as the top 5 GenXers?
These wars were foisted on us by European fascism, and, wrt Vietnam, by an older-than-us generation of fascists in the US. As I'm sure you know, wars are not fought by those that plan them, but by a younger bunch of folks.
Not upset at all. Your ageism is mostly pitiable and amusing
>>>>>the Boomers largely squandered manned space exploration
And wisely so. The only three space programs we need are meteor detection and abatement, SETI, and maintaining satellites. Everything else has a lower priority than dealing with our other problems here on earth.
Space will still be there if and when we have figured out how to correctly live on this planet.
>>>The only three space programs we need are meteor detection and abatement, SETI, and maintaining satellites. Everything else has a lower priority than dealing with our other problems here on earth.
Of course you would think so. That's exactly the lack of vision and ambition we've come to expect from the Boomers. Your results speak for themselves.
>>>Space will still be there if and when we have figured out how to correctly live on this planet
Indeed. Yet another failure by the Boomers, which Gen Xers like Musk are currently working to correct.
I know this is going to sound unbelievable, Surf; but we can actually clean up your mess and innovate for our future. Crazy, right?
He works with trump helps the government spy on who they want. Space X burns a huge hole in the ozone layer with every launch .I own an M3 tesla and I'm all for the technology but space x is helping destroy the earth .The AI used by tesla and amazon audi and a lot of other car co's is from navida . Who knows where the time goes ..... Sandy Denny............or space
>> humans landing on Mars is going to improve the lives of the majority of the world's population.
It is, indeed. Science allowed for the unforeseen improvement of fertilizers in the 1930s and 40s, not to mention the Green Revolution which helped avert a worldwide food shortage crises. Science and enterprise will soon see us overcome the impending resource crises that the Boomers reaped for my generation to sow.
Also, I was unaware that Elon Musk was a secret agent for the Trump administration. Can you elaborate on that
Science - hell yeah! But it doesn't have to be space. Any large program will have such effects. How about a program to clean up the planet and get it on a sustainable course?
>>>>>the impending resource crises that the Boomers reaped for my generation to sow.
It most certainly is your mess, Surf. I get that passing the buck is sort of a natural, almost instinctual impulse for people of your generation; but surely you can muster the humility to acknowledge the fact that the Boomers have utterly failed to address the environmental crisis the world is currently facing?
History has rendered its verdict of the Boomers, and the verdict is not good. Accept it, and move out of our way.
The competitive and divisive style of thinking is so passé; we need to work together to create a future that's healthy for everyone. That includes using science, compassion, ethical work, art, etc.
Jeeze, Mark - you're either totally full of shit or just being snarky. This whole talk of this generation and that generation is just bullshit. Nobody has any choice about when they were born. No group of people born within 15 or 20 years of each other is monolithic in their behavior. Yes, some of "my" generation has been less than smart about the way we've done things. As has some of yours. And every other generation. Seeing the world, as you seem to, in black and white is not going to help.
Also, it's not my mess - personally. I maintain a relatively small carbon footprint and have always voted for candidates who advocate for the environment. I've marched and demonstrated, written letters, and tried to educate people. In my 25 years working in oceanography I have participated in numerous projects designed to investigate and mitigate environmental damage around the world.
Again, I can't blame you for distancing yourself from the epic failures of your generation, Surfdead; but it is very telling that, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, you can barely muster the courage to even acknowledge your generation's massive role in humanity's current predicaments. History gave you an incredible opportunity; and you squandered it.
And no, Judit; we really don't need any assistance from the Boomers in our current problem solving endeavors. We'll take it from here, thanks.
And hey, if you think I'm being harsh to the Boomers, just remember...
You'll always have the time Jimi played the Star Spangled Banner at Woodstock. No well educated, capable, solution-minded Gen Xer or Millennial can ever take that away from you.
>>>>>>we need to work together to create a future that's healthy for everyone
I agree. Despite the many major flaws of the Boomers generation we can help ease them through the last 10-15 years of their lives because it’s the right thing to do.
You would think with all the pot smoking, songs about pot smoking, pot smoking magazines, and pot smoking demonstrations the Boomers had, they could have legalized weed for themselves; but no. We had to do that for them too.
Since this thread has gone off the original topic and a few have swallowed hard Marks troll bait, I'm going to comment off-topic on what I think is being exposed once again by this Elon Musk smoking weed story...
It is so sad and so telling that in this day & age the general thinking of many (or most?) people is still that smoking marijuana is a bad, dirty, loser thing to do.
I'm amazed that this Musk smoking pot story is such a big deal. If he & Rogan had been drinking expensive scotch out of crystal glasses no one would have said a thing. Hell, they could have been hammering down multiple beers from a keg and the only issue would have been what beer they were drinking.
It seems so obvious to me that in 2018 no matter whether one approves or not of smoking pot, or any type of intoxication, at this point EVERYone should understand that weed is no big deal and is nothing to get riled about in any way.
The lesson of course is that no matter how archaic, societal/moral prejudices are arbitrary and very difficult to break.
As for this thread, the lesson is that some people just can't help snapping at bait no matter where it's cast.
But, for the sake of the veer of this thread, this photo is from the upcoming GenXer children's book, "Where's the Baby Boomer?"........
>>>>The competitive and divisive style of thinking is so passé; we need to work together to create a future that's healthy for everyone. That includes using science, compassion, ethical work, art, etc.
Kind of unusual he's dating Grimes. I like most of her music. He's trying to go to Mars and she attempted to sail down the Mississippi in a houseboat her and a friend built.
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He should spend some of his
He should spend some of his fortune to develop technology to help him grow facial hair
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His parents hoped he'd invent
His parents hoped he'd invent men's cologne. Oh well.
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He says we are currently
He says we are currently "months away" from a biological interface with technology that is "magnitudes" better than anything ever created.
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Azealia Banks said he was
Azealia Banks said he was high on acid when he tweeted about taking Tesla private at $420 a share
https://www.thecut.com/2018/08/azealia-bankss-feud-elon-musk-grimes-expl...
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I bought a Schott leather
I bought a Schott leather jacket for Christmas last year.
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I can relate. I bought an
I can relate. I bought an 85 Olds Cutlass with only 45,000 original miles earlier this year. Way past mid-life though.
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Elon Musk smoked a spliff
Elon Musk smoked a spliff with Joe Rogan.
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Seems he is so rich that
Seems he is so rich that reality does not exist for him. Everything is a toy. Not criticizing, his reality is different than ours. Wish I was that rich. Or 1/100th that rich.
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Wish I was that rich. <<<<
Wish I was that rich. <<<<
Please Mark You Are Better Than Him
He IS A BOZO and VERY Weird and NOT In A Good Way
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From every account I have
From every account I have heard he is a total and complete asshole. It is apparently a requirement for leadership in tech. For all the “forward” thinking they sure love their 1930’s corporate hierarchies and income disparities. It is one thing to be Jobs, Bezos, Ellison, or Musk and act like they do, but every mid-level manager up feels like they have to act like that to. Working in tech has just become a shit show of sprints and “unlimited” vacation days but only if all your work is done. Yes I’m bitter.
As my boss likes to say. The pace of change has never been faster than it is today, and it will never be this slow again.
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Elon Musk could go down as
Elon Musk could go down as the greatest Gen Xer ever; which is saying something considering the overall greatness of Gen Xers in general (we're the true heirs to The Greatest Generation. The Boomers are basically the mutant offspring of the Atomic Age.)
In fact, if Elon gets humanity to Mars as he intends, he will go down as one of the GOATs from any generation, ever.
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Grandpas always love
Grandpas always love grandkids more . You right.
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>>>>As my boss likes to say.
>>>>As my boss likes to say. The pace of change has never been faster than it is today, and it will never be this slow again.<<<<
Somebody said more or less the same thing in a recent "AI" issue of Smithsonian.
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I was watching a business
I was watching a business channel yesterday where of course they showed him smoking herb, but they were talking about this rumor that he was on the precipice of some kind of quantum leap breakthrough in regards to AI...which is a bit concerning really, it would kind of explain his behavior lately, kind of like who cares, it will all be irrelevant soon enough. TSLA had a rough week.
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>>>>>(we're the true heirs to
>>>>>(we're the true heirs to The Greatest Generation. The Boomers are basically the mutant offspring of the Atomic Age.)
There you go again.
Did your dad fight in WWII?
Ours did. Our grandparents fought in WWI.
We fought in and protested/ended the Vietnam war.
Our kids are mostly in their thirties.
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>Elon Musk could go down as
>Elon Musk could go down as the greatest Gen Xer ever; which is saying something considering the overall greatness of Gen Xers in general (we're the true heirs to The Greatest Generation<
Curious, Mark, who would you rate as the top 5 GenXers?
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So does the Boomer Generation
So does the Boomer Generation at large identify with perpetual war?
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I don't believe so.
I don't believe so.
These wars were foisted on us by European fascism, and, wrt Vietnam, by an older-than-us generation of fascists in the US. As I'm sure you know, wars are not fought by those that plan them, but by a younger bunch of folks.
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The Mercury and Appllo
The Mercury and Appllo missions were also planned and executed by Greatest Generation visionaries at NASA.
Sadly, the Boomers largely squandered manned space exploration; which is why I mentioned Elon & Gen X being the true heirs, etc.
Sorry about your generation, Surf. I can understand why this would be upsetting to you.
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Not upset at all. Your ageism
Not upset at all. Your ageism is mostly pitiable and amusing
>>>>>the Boomers largely squandered manned space exploration
And wisely so. The only three space programs we need are meteor detection and abatement, SETI, and maintaining satellites. Everything else has a lower priority than dealing with our other problems here on earth.
Space will still be there if and when we have figured out how to correctly live on this planet.
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the rich need a way to bail
the rich need a way to bail after they fuck this planet up...
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>>>The only three space
>>>The only three space programs we need are meteor detection and abatement, SETI, and maintaining satellites. Everything else has a lower priority than dealing with our other problems here on earth.
Of course you would think so. That's exactly the lack of vision and ambition we've come to expect from the Boomers. Your results speak for themselves.
>>>Space will still be there if and when we have figured out how to correctly live on this planet
Indeed. Yet another failure by the Boomers, which Gen Xers like Musk are currently working to correct.
I know this is going to sound unbelievable, Surf; but we can actually clean up your mess and innovate for our future. Crazy, right?
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Well , you are just getting
Well , you are just getting off to a great start cleaning up messes here.
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My next car is going to be a
My next car is going to be a Tesla.
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Space X burns a huge hole in
He works with trump helps the government spy on who they want. Space X burns a huge hole in the ozone layer with every launch .I own an M3 tesla and I'm all for the technology but space x is helping destroy the earth .The AI used by tesla and amazon audi and a lot of other car co's is from navida . Who knows where the time goes ..... Sandy Denny............or space
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>>>>>Crazy, right
>>>>>Crazy, right
You said it; not me - but yeah, so far it's been just crazy talk.
Not sure how a few humans landing on Mars is going to improve the lives of the majority of the world's population.
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And it ain't my mess.
And it ain't my mess.
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>> humans landing on Mars is
>> humans landing on Mars is going to improve the lives of the majority of the world's population.
It is, indeed. Science allowed for the unforeseen improvement of fertilizers in the 1930s and 40s, not to mention the Green Revolution which helped avert a worldwide food shortage crises. Science and enterprise will soon see us overcome the impending resource crises that the Boomers reaped for my generation to sow.
Also, I was unaware that Elon Musk was a secret agent for the Trump administration. Can you elaborate on that
Lurker?
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>>>>>It is, indeed.
>>>>>It is, indeed.
Science - hell yeah! But it doesn't have to be space. Any large program will have such effects. How about a program to clean up the planet and get it on a sustainable course?
>>>>>the impending resource crises that the Boomers reaped for my generation to sow.
Pretty sure you meant the opposite.
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It most certainly is your
It most certainly is your mess, Surf. I get that passing the buck is sort of a natural, almost instinctual impulse for people of your generation; but surely you can muster the humility to acknowledge the fact that the Boomers have utterly failed to address the environmental crisis the world is currently facing?
History has rendered its verdict of the Boomers, and the verdict is not good. Accept it, and move out of our way.
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>> Pretty sure you meant the
>> Pretty sure you meant the opposite.
Indeed. Until such time as Elon et. al have invented a time machine, at least.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDw4lsPDEho
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The competitive and divisive
The competitive and divisive style of thinking is so passé; we need to work together to create a future that's healthy for everyone. That includes using science, compassion, ethical work, art, etc.
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Jeeze, Mark - you're either
Jeeze, Mark - you're either totally full of shit or just being snarky. This whole talk of this generation and that generation is just bullshit. Nobody has any choice about when they were born. No group of people born within 15 or 20 years of each other is monolithic in their behavior. Yes, some of "my" generation has been less than smart about the way we've done things. As has some of yours. And every other generation. Seeing the world, as you seem to, in black and white is not going to help.
Also, it's not my mess - personally. I maintain a relatively small carbon footprint and have always voted for candidates who advocate for the environment. I've marched and demonstrated, written letters, and tried to educate people. In my 25 years working in oceanography I have participated in numerous projects designed to investigate and mitigate environmental damage around the world.
What have you done?
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Again, I can't blame you for
Again, I can't blame you for distancing yourself from the epic failures of your generation, Surfdead; but it is very telling that, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, you can barely muster the courage to even acknowledge your generation's massive role in humanity's current predicaments. History gave you an incredible opportunity; and you squandered it.
And no, Judit; we really don't need any assistance from the Boomers in our current problem solving endeavors. We'll take it from here, thanks.
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And hey, if you think I'm
And hey, if you think I'm being harsh to the Boomers, just remember...
You'll always have the time Jimi played the Star Spangled Banner at Woodstock. No well educated, capable, solution-minded Gen Xer or Millennial can ever take that away from you.
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Snark Lyin' has spoken.
Snark Lyin' has spoken. Everybody make way.
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Deflection can't rewrite the
Deflection can't rewrite the last 50 years of history, Surf.
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>>>>>>we need to work
>>>>>>we need to work together to create a future that's healthy for everyone
I agree. Despite the many major flaws of the Boomers generation we can help ease them through the last 10-15 years of their lives because it’s the right thing to do.
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That's a much more
That's a much more compassionate position than my idea, Hoover.
I believe we should corral all the Boomers into a heavily guarded internment camp on the original Woodstock site, thus completing the circle.
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Well I mean we’ve legalized
Well I mean we’ve legalized marijuana for the Boomers to help them through their golden years.
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That's true.
That's true.
You would think with all the pot smoking, songs about pot smoking, pot smoking magazines, and pot smoking demonstrations the Boomers had, they could have legalized weed for themselves; but no. We had to do that for them too.
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Master
Master
baiter
with a few chuckles on a hot Saturday afternoon What the hell
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Since this thread has gone
Since this thread has gone off the original topic and a few have swallowed hard Marks troll bait, I'm going to comment off-topic on what I think is being exposed once again by this Elon Musk smoking weed story...
It is so sad and so telling that in this day & age the general thinking of many (or most?) people is still that smoking marijuana is a bad, dirty, loser thing to do.
I'm amazed that this Musk smoking pot story is such a big deal. If he & Rogan had been drinking expensive scotch out of crystal glasses no one would have said a thing. Hell, they could have been hammering down multiple beers from a keg and the only issue would have been what beer they were drinking.
It seems so obvious to me that in 2018 no matter whether one approves or not of smoking pot, or any type of intoxication, at this point EVERYone should understand that weed is no big deal and is nothing to get riled about in any way.
The lesson of course is that no matter how archaic, societal/moral prejudices are arbitrary and very difficult to break.
As for this thread, the lesson is that some people just can't help snapping at bait no matter where it's cast.
But, for the sake of the veer of this thread, this photo is from the upcoming GenXer children's book, "Where's the Baby Boomer?"........
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Well said on the weed thing,
Well said on the weed thing, Lance.
I also appreciate your soft troll with that pic.
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Lance, those are all Boomers
Lance, those are all Boomers in that pic
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Here's a good example of the
Here's a good example of the Boomer space program:
Challenger Disaster 1986
https://youtu.be/j4JOjcDFtBE
Too soon?
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Elon Musk died in Billions.
Elon Musk died in Billions.
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Elon sends up spy satellite
Elon sends up spy satellite's for the nsa homeland security and the military .It is public knowledge he lists all his space x clients
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>>>>The competitive and
>>>>The competitive and divisive style of thinking is so passé; we need to work together to create a future that's healthy for everyone. That includes using science, compassion, ethical work, art, etc.
Who says senility can't be cute?
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Slack. Are they your top 5
Slack. Are they your top 5 genXers?
Or do you assume that to be Mark's list?
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I don't celebrate my
I don't celebrate my generation.
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Kind of unusual he's dating
Kind of unusual he's dating Grimes. I like most of her music. He's trying to go to Mars and she attempted to sail down the Mississippi in a houseboat her and a friend built.