The State of Things In Southern Utah
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News from my most favorite of places is troubling. First, we learn that the BLM plans to open up vast areas that were formerly part of Escalante up for mining and drilling, calling the least amount of regulations on it the "preferred" land use. Also, plans to sell of some parcels, despite absolute promises of Sect of Interior Zinke that this would not happen.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/environment/2018/08/15/feds-release-management/
Next, we have a lengthy article from Outside on the massive growth in St George Utah and the massive water pipeline planned to make sure that the residents there have grass yards. Despite being smaller, St. George uses more water than Albequerque, Vegas, and Tucson. When asked why this is necessary, the answer is that those cities are "Latin" societies. Latins are "social people" with wonderful values who prefer to recreate and play in the street, as evidenced by St George's water honcho's observations while travelling in Latin America. Unlike Latins, Europeans (read: white people) are not social and therefore needs grass yards in the desert to hang out behind their houses. Even more fun, we have state legislator Mike Noel who says that massive growth (mostly through retirees moving there) is necessary so that local kids can find jobs and stay local. OK, that sounds reasonable. So he prefers lawns. Can I note that he has FOURTY EIGHT grandchildren? This Noel guy is also one of those big proponents of the "No Federal Land" movement, like the Bundys and others who claim that the US stole the land that should belong to the states. Any chance that his positions are related to some crackpot Mormon version of manifest destiny? You decide. This is him talking about the massive water grab: “It’s part of our heritage as a state,” he said of the pipeline. “We’re not giving up that water. It goes back to the way Utah was founded. Brigham Young left Nauvoo, Illinois, in the greatest single migration in the history of the continent. He came to a place, it had open land, it had room to grow, it had freedom from oppression because it was outside the United States, and it had water. For us to give up water would be like giving up our firstborn."
Oh Utah, I love you, but you so crazy.
https://www.outsideonline.com/2333236/utah-pipeline-water-shortage-st-ge...
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depressing as shit.
re selling off and mining former National Monuments, this is depressing as shit.
Raping wilderness is forever. Thanks, green voters.
re St George, the growth forecast in Northern Utah is pretty scary too, as is North Texas (DFW) , Central Texas (Austin-SA), and Southeastern Texas (Houston)...at least west texas is safe.
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I can understand why they
I can understand why they want growth, within reason. But insisting on green lawns in the middle of the desert is just obnoxious. Obnoxious in Palm Springs, and obnoxious in St. George Utah.
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St. George water conservation
St. George water conservation? Check out and support the Utah Rivers Council. http://utahrivers.org/
They want to run a pipeline across the desert from Lake Foul, er Bowel, ooops Powell, to St. George to support their unsustainable growth.
Don't forget, they want tons of water for a nuclear plant in Green River also.
It's such a shame such a beautiful state is inhabited by unthinking blockheads.
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"There's one thing that I
"There's one thing that I most fear
It's a white man in a golf shirt
With a cell phone in his ear"
-Tom Russell
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Hey, we don't all need wall
Hey, we don't all need wall to wall grass to play golf. Homeowners with leaking pools waste more water than golf courses.
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Sand Hollow State Park:
Sand Hollow State Park:
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Wow!
Wow!
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Those St George courses look
Those St George courses look nicer than anything in Palm Springs or Scottsdale.
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I wrote this about 20-25
I wrote this about 20-25 years ago. The melody is John Prine's "Paradise".
Folks in St George and Vegas want that Virgin River They're ready to dam it, it don't matter where
Their greed and their growth is makin' 'em crazy They drain ecosystems of their natural share.
And daddy won't you take me back to Washington County where I can play golf just about anywhere
The fact that it's desert, well, it just don't matter Water will appear right out of thin air.
Thanks for posting this Utah stuff, Alias. There's been a few things in the last few weeks I thought about posting but didn't. I was surprised to see your SL Tribune links work. They're charging for access now. I didn't think they would.
Recently, a judge ruled that Navajo candidate Willie Greyeyes be reinstated to the ballot for San Juan County Commissioner, almost insuring they'll have 2 Navajos on the three-person council, both proponents of Bears Ears Monument. The Navajos will have control of the county council for the first time ever. And that includes the recent defeat of Rebecca Benally, a Navajo who spoke against Bears Ears and stood with the white Utah politicians when Zinke came. It was found in court testimony the county clerk took a verbal comment by a defeated candidate questioning Greyeyes' residency (he'd voted in the county for the last 30 years) and completed an investigation without a formal compliant. When he decided to move forward in the process, he and the complainant, a cousin (wink wink) of Commissioner Philip Lyman, backdated the complaint so it would fall within the time limit to file a complaint. If they had dated it the day they signed it, it would have been invalid. Both were forced to testify to those facts in court. The clerk may face charges. The white momo's are having a hard time with the new realities. https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/08/08/gehrke-county-clerks/
Also, a federal judge ruled, as speculated here a few weeks ago, the bullshit reasoning to shrink the monuments that was exposed accidentally by Interior, then recalled, won't be allowed as evidence in the appeals on the monuments, as it is "protected presidential communications" and they do not have to be turned over to the legal team fighting the reductions. https://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2018/08/08/trump-can-keep-secre...
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The rates for that place seem
The rates for that place seem reasonable.
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Powell's quagga are gonna
Powell's quagga are gonna clog that pipeline
A friend lives near the proposed Green River nuke plant and she says it will never happen
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Looks like Zinke did
Looks like Zinke did SOMETHING right and put the kabosh on that 1600 acre sale inside Grand Staircase. Said he read about BLM's plans in the media.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/08/17/interior-secretary/
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Speaking of Utah water issues
Speaking of Utah water issues (and Vegas), this just in....
https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46377754&nid=157&title=nevada-water-chief-rejec...