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I would love to hear the conservative response to a President pulling a persons security clearance simply because that person has been critical of the President

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What's he going to do? 

 

Evidently, the current intel heads were not informed of this decision-by-tweet.

>I would love to hear the conservative response to a President pulling a persons security clearance simply because that person has been critical of the President

Are you expecting something new and original? 

"I hear and I obey" has been working for almost 2 years.

If it ain't broke .................

 

 

>Are you expecting something new and original? 

No just an coherent explanation justifying the clown baby hypocrite shithead's action. 

>No just an coherent explanation justifying the clown baby hypocrite shithead's action. 

 Don't hold your breath nanny

Twitter posts, lol. Dictating people’s lives one by one.

So the guy who voted for Gus Hall got his clearance pulled?

Yawn.

Uncle Tom will not relent 

One Twitter/post at a time

brilliantly 

jaded

>>So the guy who voted for Gus Hall got his clearance pulled?

If that was why his clearance was pulled we could have an intelligent conversation, but sadly conservatives have sold their soul to Trump who told us exactly why he pulled the clearance. 

During a 20-minute impromptu interview with the Wall Street Journal Wednesday, Trump blamed former CIA Director John Brennan — and the nine other, notably Democratic, former officials whose security clearances he’s reviewing — for starting the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Brennan was one of the officials who informed Trump about Russian meddling just before his inauguration.

“I call it the rigged witch hunt, (it) is a sham,” he told the WSJ. “And these people led it! … So I think it’s something that had to be done.”

But the real question is in the future when there is a Democrat in the White House will you support the right of that President to arbitrarily pull the security clearances of all former Republicans just because she feels like it? 

>>>>Yawn.

 

I agree with Thom on this one: the head of our country's executive branch has many, many more important concerns to attend to.

In the real world when you leave a job that requires a security clearance that clearance is taken away the day you walk if not before

I am just going to lent 

If nothing is promised, nothing is lent.

hillman: I agree with you on the surface (why would anyone need security clearance if they no longer have a job in that area?), but news stories lead me to believe that a precedent was set and that the President (via his spokeperson) was projecting this as some sort of shameful punishment.  YMMV

 

Even the Republican House Speaker didn't seem to expect this sort of thing to happen a few weeks ago:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/24/paul-ryan-trumps-security-cle...

Oh, he absolutely was, no question about that.

It has been the practice to allow past heads of the various security agencies to retain their security clearances so that they could give current officials the benefit of their experience without having to re-obtain clearance on a case by case basis.

Sorry, hilman: I added to my post after you responded.

Military contractors in the civilian world need security clearance to be able to do their jobs.  To pretend this is normal is stupid.

 

What real world are you talking about Hillman?  Because this isn’t normal with high level government employees.  Please cite one other time this has been done.

John Brennan is an absolute stud and the master mind of killing Bin Laden. You're meaning to tell me you don't think it's important for a guy like that to advise those who are currently working to defend our country against terrorism?

 

Why does it seem like conservatives are always wrong?

"Because this isn’t normal with high level government employees.  Please cite one other time this has been done."

Please cite one other time other than the JFK assassination there's been a coup d'état in the 242 years of the republic, this is not about "silencing" Brennan as CNN would have you believe, this is about Brennan's role in subverting the will of the people and reversing the outcome of a presidential election....which by the way will be common knowledge in the next 3 or 4 weeks, so prepare to have your worldview radically altered.

namaste...you're an intelligent guy, respect your views, this is about to be revealed, take note

 

 

 

Nice to see Q Anon has joined the conversation.

Meanwhile back in the real world:

William H. McRaven, a retired Navy admiral, was commander of the U.S. Joint Special Operations Command from 2011 to 2014. He oversaw the 2011 Navy SEAL raid in Pakistan that killed al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Dear Mr. President:

Former CIA director John Brennan, whose security clearance you revokedon Wednesday, is one of the finest public servants I have ever known. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him.

Therefore, I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.

 

>>>Brennan as CNN would have you believe, this is about Brennan's role in subverting the will of the people and reversing the outcome of a presidential election

 

Huh?  You mean that Brennan has been on Trump's side all along?  Oh wait, I was looking at the "will of the people" part of your statement, not the "reversing the outcome of a presidential election" part.


My bad.  Carry on...

What crazy act will it take for conservatives to no longer circle the wagons around Trump? Bunch of pansy-assed apologists they are. It’s fucking nuts.

Equating the security clearance of an engineer or  businessman in the weapons industry to that of someone like Brennan is just asinine.

Trump is just a whiny cunt who can’t handle criticism, and lashes out like a bunch of dudes on a DBMB. It’s fine for here, but as POTUS?

Trump's memo to pull Brennan's security clearance was dated 7/26 so he waited for two weeks for some bad news before he announced it. Update your BS memo date when throwing it against the wall. Trump's firing all the FBI people investigating russia before 2018 mid term russian HACK. 

It's Uncle Thom by the way. Just sayin'

Unlike Nixon, Trump admin pursues enemies list in public...

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/unlike-nixon-trump-admin-pursue...

Who cares. His boogie man shtick is played out. 

I’m a bit confused. The NYT ran a piece. A talking head at the National Review wrote an op-ed about it.

And what does this have to do with Brennan?

What does Brennan have to do with anything going on today? You guys bow down to everyone in government. 

It’s a discussion about government. Get the bug out of your ass.

What do you need him to do, BK? Did anyone replace him? 

What are you afraid of now that a retiree doesn't have hyperbole clearance? 

The narrative is that Trump is trying to silence Brennan because of his criticism, that's malarkey...a good rule of thumb is "What is the exact opposite of Jake Tapper's explanation of _______", Brennan was at the absolute top of the chain of command answering only to Obama in the surveillance of an opposition party during a presidential campaign utilizing our nation's intelligence infrastructure, this will be common knowledge in the next few weeks, it kind of surprises me that seemingly 95% of you don't seem to get it, this is an intelligent crowd, I believe you believe it, it just surprises me.

Slack, you’re cute when you’re ornery.

And meanwhile, this Bryen dude is saying that something will happen in the future, and he’s amazed that intelligent people don’t see it. There’s no proof or anything, but it’s there.

Did you hear the story about my turd growing horns, fucking my wife and stealing my car?

Brennan is ornery. And useless. Like the rest of them. 

The media can't stop saying Team Trump have broken too many laws to count but none to charge them with. 

On to the next campaign for power from both sides. 

Fuck all these overpaid people. Fuck them right in their rich fucking faces. 

You might have missed it, but a whole bunch of people on Team Trump have been indicted. The jury is even coming back on on tomorrow. Others have plead guilty.

I don’t watch CNN, Fox or MSNBC. I get all my news from the Zone.

 

 

 

Thom,

 

let's hear what you have to say about Admiral McRaven:

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^ Lines have been drawn, there will be plenty of people stand with Brennan, history will not treat them kindly, spend 5 minutes researching Brennan's Spring/Summer of 2016, it's the twilight of the cabal 

What crazy act will it take for conservatives to no longer circle the wagons around Trump? Bunch of pansy-assed apologists they are. It’s fucking nuts.

Equating the security clearance of an engineer or  businessman in the weapons industry to that of someone like Brennan is just asinine.

Trump is just a whiny cunt who can’t handle criticism, and lashes out like a bunch of dudes on a DBMB. It’s fine for here, but as POTUS?

 

Brian K- I lol'd and even ROTFL'd after reading that,,,,,

But "Bryen" you sound like the Orange Anus, with his 'lots of people are saying", and "just wait and see" shtick,,,we are all on to this bullshit trope by now

 

Scott Schaffer,

     Thanks for the call out, grew up on Schaffer Light, 6 pack of cans was like $2.25, regardless of our discoveries, and I'm starting to realize literally no one is getting it, you will believe what Jake Tapper wants you to believe, I've all but given up hope that a significant block of people on this particular message board will ever get it...and that's ok, things sometimes happen for a reason.

     This has been an eye opening experience for me, the romantic notion that we are a highly cognitive subset of society is perhaps wishful thinking, that our community has become fodder for the Rachael Maddows of this world is something that will take some getting used to, and that's ok.

     Enjoy the fashionable thoughts & ideas of your cable news overlords, they would be very proud.  Your newfound hero Brennan must be very pleased, the irony...strange bedfellows, again, research Brennan for all of 5 minutes.

     You're in with the in crowd, very very very cool!  Hillary = Good!  Trump = Bad!  ooga ooga!

 

 

Ha. This guy.

Just more obstruction of justice/witness tampering 

Mr. Brennan was director of the Central Intelligence Agency in the Democratic administration of former President Obama and one of those who presented evidence to Mr. Trump shortly before his inauguration that Russia had interfered in the 2016 election.

“I call it the rigged witch hunt, [it] is a sham,” Mr. Trump said in an interview. “And these people led it!”

He added: “So I think it’s something that had to be done.”

 

“You look at any of them and you see the things they’ve done,” Mr. Trump said. “In some cases, they’ve lied before Congress. The Hillary Clinton whole investigation was a total sham.”

Earlier in the day, White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders said the administration was also reviewing the clearances of former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former FBI Director James Comey, and former National Security Agency and CIA chief Michael Hayden.

“I don’t trust many of those people on that list,” Mr. Trump said in the interview. “I think that they’re very duplicitous. I think they’re not good people

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-revokes-ex-cia-director-john-brennans...

 

 

 

 

Wave your flag, Bryen...

 

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Thom?

 

Any thoughts on Admiral McRaven?

this bryen dude is a deep thinker.

With lots of commas.

It's a wonky world when conservatives are attacking the intelligence community and liberals are defending them. 

Now everything’s a little upside down, as a matter of fact the wheels have stopped
What’s good is bad, what’s bad is good, you’ll find out when you reach the top
You’re on the bottom 

Compelled to respond 

cool

Are they slowing him down? 

Does any part of your intuition, your gut feeling about the way things are and always have been give you any trepidation or the slightest pause to side with the inner workings of the military industrial complex, the masters of war?  Is there not some tingly feeling almost on an indigenous level that doesn't feel quite right?  Brennan, Clapper...these are your guys?  Your true north?

 Briank on Friday, August 17, 2018 – 10:43 am 

It's a wonky world when conservatives are attacking the intelligence community and liberals are defending them. 

This 

Poor bryen our resident trump ra tard. Just incapable of rational free thinking thought process.  

Whose inability to decipher truth from fiction is fucking astounding. 

Dare I say mentally challenged ? 

Seems a common ailment of today's repub hardcore shitbirds.

Can't debate em, facts just bounce right off.

Their minds are totally controlled

And they will do as they are told

^ the irony

Someone get the guy a cookie.

Where's Devin Nunes when we need him?

>>Brennan, Clapper...these are your guys?  Your true north?

For me, it isn't about "guys." They are all a bunch of nutjobs. It just so happens that some nutjobs have skills and information that may protect us from worse nutjobs. It also seems that many of the nutjobs think that Trump is, perhaps, a bigger nutjob than they.

Why, Bryen, are you so locked into the party politics worldview on this? You can't claim a higher ground when you're in the muck.

 

"Why, Bryen, are you so locked into the party politics worldview on this?"

 

I'd venture a guess that I've registered more democrats to vote than anyone on this board, because at the time it was the most effective thing I could do to stop a war...figure it out, don't figure it out, I'm exhausted.  This is a soft coup d'état by the military industrial complex, some of you will get it, others won't, enjoy the day.

Bryen" you sound like the Orange Anus,  <<<<

 

No way one anus could inflict that much damage on young bry,

takes at least a few conspirators to turn otherwise ok people into major assholes.

I say bryen is more a product of the 4 horsmen,

a total product of our worst case scenario use of the 1st ammendment.

Who now is nothing but a savage nation, dousch limbaugh, alex jones, russian bot cockroach

which needs to be squashed before they try to multiply.

 

>>.figure it out, don't figure it out, I'm exhausted.

Maybe a nice cup of camomile tea would help.

Bryen, check this out...

 

https://www.vivalazone.org/other-stuff/perhaps-most-important-educationa...

 

You and Liam may find some common ground. 

Where's the WP story from 2014 saying Obama needed to fire Brennan because he's a liar? I can't look it up here but read it this morning. Washington Post, people, where democracy goes to die in darkness or something like that.smiley

Still waiting for an answer to this question

But the real question is in the future when there is a Democrat in the White House will you support the right of that President to arbitrarily pull the security clearances of all former Republicans just because she feels like it? 

Still waiting for an answer,  in the future if   <<<<

Wow you're also a special kind of ra tard aren't you ?

All the clueless people where do they all come from ?

Where do they all belong ?

 

Super-secret confab of known Brennan associates under way right now.  I know this because I'm uber-innie-adjacent.

 

(Happy 40th Anniversary to the Brennans.)