Trump Just Signed Something About Children Being Separated From Families, But It's Unclear What Exactly It Is

I'm sure it's order 66 to start the genocide.

I knew that was going to happen.  Trump being Trump.   Make a big scene with something stupid and/or outrageous, capture everyone's attention, and then come in and act like the good guy while blaming the Democrats/Obama/Hillary etc.

I DO blame Democrats/Obama/Hillary for not giving the voters someone head/shoulders above this loser POS. And, as far as I can see, there's still no obvious candidate for 2020. This shouldn't be hard.

TRUMP IS A CERTIFIED INSANE LOSER !

>>I DO blame Democrats/Obama/Hillary for not giving the voters someone head/shoulders above this loser POS. And, as far as I can see, there's still no obvious candidate for 2020. This shouldn't be hard.

There was an obvious candidate in 2016 and it is still obvious now: BERNIE!

Ned -- after the 2016 election would you know who or were to turn to? 

“The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.” Josh Marshall

Why is no one asking how Trump can sign an order stopping the separations when he just spent the last week telling everyone that he was powerless to do anything.

Here is the real answer in case you are interested. He just wants to set up a confrontation with the courts, and he is more than happy to use babies as bargaining chips in that battle.

The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trumps-ploy

>> Ned -- after the 2016 election would you know who or were to turn to? 

Obama was a force in 2008. Hillary had the inside track and he bum-rushed her. The Dems need a candidate with a similar profile and attraction.
Sorry, but Bernie can't beat Trump (plus he's like 108 years old).

I'm with Ned, you run a 78 year old you are accepting defeat from the get-go.

 

By Oaksterdam Dan Nugstradumbass on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 – 04:47 pm 

>>>>Sorry, but Bernie can't beat Trump (plus he's like 108 years old).

He's the only one who can beat Trump don't fool yourself NED

lol

Donnie's  executive order allows that family can now be held indefinitely not the current 20 days.  Donnie’s way of making the owners of the private prisons/internment camps/concentration camps happy.

Nugs will run Peter Fonda.

Even if Bernie is good to go at 78, it is pretty pathetic that the dems have no one even close to comparable (except Warren) in the 45-75 age range.  How can you be the party of the future if all you got is one ancient dude?  It is impressive how much they have managed to turn off younger people and not incorporate them and their newfangled ideas into the party because they are still holding onto the Bill Clinton GOdemocratic paradigm.

Feinstein is what, 102 years old?  Come ON lady.  You aren't inspiring, you are depressing. Man I miss Al Franken.

I DO blame Democrats/Obama/Hillary for not giving the voters someone head/shoulders above this loser POS<<<

We will always be subject to marginalized candidates who are tethered to special interests until there is serious and meaningful reform.

The complete removal of super delegates would've been a good start.

Setlist:

We aren't doing it

(tuning)

We are doing it, but there's nothing wrong with it >

Obama did it first >

It's the Democrat's fault

(nobody's fault but mine tuning)

If you give me what I want, I'll stop it

(tuning)

I stopped it, aren't I great!

Kevin Drum wrote: The reality of American political life is that 40% of people say they are conservative and 20% say they are liberal. That has held steady going back to 1996 with only minor variations. That means in any given election Republicans only need to attract 10% of independents while liberals have to attract 30% of independents. 

It isn’t even close to a level playing field. Liberal politicians have to walk a tight rope of not pissing off their much smaller base while attracting enough moderates and independents to put them over the top. Republicans rarely if ever get punished for being too conservative by their base, and can usually attract a small part of the independents to make them competitive in most races. 

That has left us where we are today with two choices - a radicalized “conservative” party and a moderate/conservative party. The only way to change anything is to convince the self identifying conservatives that the new Republican party doesn’t represent them anymore. 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123854/conservatives-maintain-edge-top-ideolo...

Always elect wealthy people. 

Maybe Peter Fonda can update us on what exactly it is.

By Now...... #ExecutiveOrder  WHERE ARE THE VIDEOS OF CHILDREN SEEING THEIR PARENTS REUNITED AND HUGGING AFTER BEING CAGED ? HUH ? HUH ? ___ We Thought So PHONEY Trump !

Warren would (will?) be an exceptional candidate in 2020.
I understood her stance in 2016 that she felt she could do more as a Senator, but times have changed radically. I don't see any other potential candidate that could run over Trump like she could.

#ExecutiveOrder Drop Donald and Ivanka Off In Honduras Guatemala or El Salvador For 1 Night  On The Streets w/o Protection and SEE How Long They Last..

Donnie’s new policy doesn’t apply to the thousands of kids already  separated from their families. They now can be held indefinitely. Only applies to new families at the border.

What I don't get is why they didn't have a plan in place to deport them together after the adults are done with court.  Saw on the news this AM some Guatamalan woman who is back home without her kid.  That's just a matter of simple logistics, and they have had over a year to contemplate the details. I don't do "This is Trumps Katrina/watergate, etc" but the lack or organization does remind me of the Katrina response.  Unless of course, the plan was to create chaos on top of trauma by not getting people reunited.  Wouldn't put it past them, but don't those kids get to stay in the US if they can't get them to their parents?  That seems counter to the plan to keep immigrant kids out of the US.