Richard Thompson "Live at Rockpalast"

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3 CDs and 2 DVDs of Richard Thompson live in 1983 and 1984, just an unbelievable performance and the best $21 you will ever spend.

http://www.theconnextion.com/richardthompson/richardthompson_product.cfm...

If you are an RT fan this is a must have. The '83 lineup is especially great with Simon Nicol, Dave Pegg and Dave Mattacks from Fairport Convention plus Alan Dunn on accordion and Pete Zorn on sax.  The combo of accordion and sax creates a fantastic texture that is missing on his later bands, especially the electric three piece units he's been touring with lately. Literally some of the best performances of the old classics that I have ever heard.  Truly inspired music at it's best from one of the musical geniuses of our time.

saw the 1970  Fairport lineup of the above with Mr Thompson  and the late Dave Swarbrick .

Still one of my all time favorite bands

Jumped on that. Thanks.

Richard is one of the best guitarists, acoustic or electric, I have ever seen. The guy's a monster who doesn't let his chops (or vocals) lag at all. Real class act and funny guy to boot.

No spot taken.

This guy is one sound I don't get. 

I have a very large collection of tapes from that period of Richard Fairport and off shoots  great stuff 

slacker hates accents

It's not his voice, mostly, it's his guitar. 

I don't know how difficult his stuff is but it isn't catchy to my ear. 

That bigger 83 band sounds ok but I don't want to hear any of it again.

"I don't know how difficult his stuff is..."

One way to consider this is to ask yourself who else sounds like he does.

Nobody. Even on acoustic you can spot him almost immediately.

Does he have one good song? 

That is one good song. 

Better writer than Dylan better guitarist than Jimi

 

https://youtu.be/xbJz_sxRGfs

I don't like the sound choice of his electric guitar. 

"Does he have one good song? "

I'm trying to not be cruel here, but this is clueless.  Hoover has it exactly correct.  His catalog over the past 35 years puts Dylan to shame.

"Night Comes In"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ok7K_G4FIY

Ain't nobody puttin' Dylan to shame. IMO Bob's a better songwriter.

But RT plays guitar better than Mr. Dylan.

A lot better.

Dylan’s catalog has way more stinkers than Mr Thompson’s.

Agreed.

There's usually one long one on  each record.

I don't like that guitar sound especially during that solo.

he's quoted recently basically saying he'd trade his catalog for one of Dylan's gems...

Dylan did do a Vincent cover I believe recently...

 

>>> And do you have strong memories of jamming with Jimi Hendrix?

It was fun. We used to play the Speakeasy Club twice a week and Blazes sometimes, and all the musicians would roll in after midnight, coming back for something to eat. Jimi was in there a lot of nights and I think he used to get up and play after a few drinks, he would have done it two or three times. He would play my guitar upside down, in what for him was the strings the wrong way round but he could still play something great. He was just a nice guy, quite shy. I do remember that he was very beautiful and had a lovely face

And so we eventually saw Dylan playing Richard Thompson after so many years of you and Fairport Convention covering his songs, both on stage and on such early records as "What We Did On Our Holidays" and "Unhalfbricking". I remember you once saying you'd be glad to trade off all of your catalogue for just one Dylan song. Was it "Tangled Up In Blue", maybe, or "Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts"?

I said that, that's true, and I've said similar things about several other songwriters. Shakespeare was a good songwriter too, even if he didn't write the music. Lyrics only.

 

Not only is he the best but he’s super modest too.

"IMO Bob's a better songwriter"

He's been riding on his 60's and 70's songs for decades.  It's the best at that time, and he's a true historical musical figure because of it, but his catalog for the past 35 years or so is tepid compared to RT's.

dylan's last few albums have been pretty good. not like he hasn't been working and just riding on blowin' in the wind....

 

http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/?first=filters&order=desc

There's a great R&L Thompson concert from Rockpalast in 1980 that is on youtube, I have watched (actually mostly just listened) that several times and it is so so good!

Both Dylan and Thompson are great songwriters but are pretty different....Dylan had a rough patch in the mid 80s but he has made several amazing albums since then. I personally think "Love and Theft" is as good a record as anything released in the 2000s...

 

Any other good songs? 

Do you need to have lost a loved one to the sea to really get the feels?

 

Slacker asking some really incisive and important questions here. Nice work.

Good thread.

Dylan vs RT as lyricists is a toss up, I might even give the edge to Dylan.

as far songwriting goes it's RT hands down, dude writes epic bridges like shooting fish in a barrel.

it would b quicker to list his songs that aren't good compared to his ones that r.

slacker, pick an album at random and I'll tell u the most "good" songs on it.

u don't have to have a loved one lost at sea to appreciate RT's work but it doesn't hurt.

Off the top of my head, if you're not feeling his electric work and like 'Vincent' maybe try the songs 'cold kisses', 'bee's wing', 'pharaoh' or del's rendition of 'two faced love' on for size.

Listening to Hokey Pokey. Not bad from the start. 

Second song is losing me. 

 

Couldn't finish. 

Moving on to Hand of Kindness. 

bees wing is a great tune.

Skipped Tear stained. 

Second song starting slow. Not digging it

Are there any good weed tunes? Something to smoke to? Some long jammy shit? 

Tried cold kisses and pharaoh. I don't know. 

Were the lyrics to pharaoh supposed to be about something? 

>>>>>Are there any good weed tunes? Something to smoke to? Some long jammy shit?

 

Isn't all music good to smoke weed too?

Live versions of Hard On Me can stretch out past the 10 minute mark.

Del McCoury Band did fantastic jobs on Vincent & Two Faced Love. We got to know each other real well around 2003-2004 when they played a lot in my area. I really, really, really liked TFL & requested it all the time. When they were doing warm ups prior to shows if they saw me they would immediately start playing it. Best time was at Ziggy's in Winston Salem, they sound checked it when they saw me at the side door and then played it along with all my requests that night. Great matrix recording of that show!

The rhythm for Hard on me ain't bad but those solos just sound cheesy to me. Especially without much effect or distortion. 

I dig the sound of Del. 

Its ok, you tried.

>>>Were the lyrics to pharaoh supposed to be about something

 

I'm pretty sure they have something to do with the seemingly eternal nature of society's ruling class or some such shit.

I might try again during a quiter time. 

Didn't Richard Thompson have a beef with the Dead or Jerry? I might be thinking of someone else...

The more I hear of Richard Thompson, the more I think I want to try listening to Motorhead instead, and I never used to like Motorhead.

But if I listen to Motorhead after RT, I find it growing on me.

 

I'm probably not smart enough to enjoy highbrow entertainment.

 

 

>>>  u don't have to have a loved one lost at sea to appreciate RT's work but it doesn't hurt

Being from the desert mountains, I might not be getting it.

"Didn't Richard Thompson have a beef with the Dead or Jerry?":

Not in particular but he used to make jokes about the San Francisco scene in general at some of his concerts.  I think it was a reaction to fans requesting that he "jam out" more so he would take little digs at jam bands and the Dead just naturally came up.  One has to remember that RT is a serious practicing Muslim so his views on taking drugs and "rocking out" are a bit different than your average jam band concert goer.

"u don't have to have a loved one lost at sea to appreciate RT's work but it doesn't hurt"

I think this mindset arises because many of his songs appear to be exploring the darker side of human nature.  That's actually one of the things I love about his material.  He doesn't sugar coat it.

"Off the top of my head, if you're not feeling his electric work...."

Try his recent discs that cover his classic songs acoustically. 

His recent acoustic shows at Berkeley's Freight & Salvage were 'by request', and featured covers such as 'Won't Get Fooled Again', Back in the USSR', 'Woodstock', 'Positively 4th St', 'Substitute', 'Hey Jude', 'Sloop John B', as well as some seldom played Fairport tunes.

And if you don't get RT, you probably don't have a lot of Celtic blood, 'cause that's where he's coming from.

 

 

 

I'm not Irish so I'll quit trying.

Slacks, how do you feel about Jack Johnson?

I don't listen to him. 

Laid back.  Good to smoke weed to.

>> And if you don't get RT, you probably don't have a lot of Celtic blood, 'cause that's where he's coming from.

Hahahaha whaaat the fuck does that even mean? Lol!

Kind of like Wilco (which might explain why the last album Still – not the one that's not a series of acoustic sleepy-time covers, like Thom seems to enjoy – was produced by Jeff Tweedy, and features six string-and-steel shredder Jim Elkington), Richard Thompson seems to cultivate a real respectable scene, and surrounds himself with the best people.

His last tour featured one of my favorite artists, Joan Shelley (and longtime collaborator Nathan Salsburg), as the opener and by the end of the tour they were coming out to collaborate each encore / last bit of RT's sets.

Dude's solid. In reality, I don't know really anything about his extensive body of work (like Wilco) and yet I know I'm gonna get a solid, respectable, and highly professional presentation of music whenever I see him (like Wilco).

Good enough for me.

>> his last real album, Still

..is what I meant to write.

The thing I like best about Thompson is that he always plays tiny venues.

I don't see him anymore (I've seen him numerous times over the years and it all seems the same at this point) but if I WAS going to see him I like the little places he plays.

In the RT vs dylan thing, Thompson also gets points for not having a voice that sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard 

I couldn't stand the suspense and skipped to the end....did Slacker embrace the RTs?

"not the one that's not a series of acoustic sleepy-time covers, like Thom seems to enjoy"

I was simply advising them to someone who said that they didn't like his electric material.  You can often get a better grasp of someone's songwriting ability by hearing the bare bones versions.  I'm actually not a big fan of those albums (bought the first but not the second),  the originals are better and while I prefer electric RT his acoustic work is fantastic and as unique it it's own way as his electric stuff.  He's a true master at both, rare in itself.

>>>>>Are there any good weed tunes? Something to smoke to? Some long jammy shit?

 

maybe the grizzly man soundtrack?

"Some long jammy shit?"

Calvary Cross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8i61cG8Glk

But RT doesn't do "jammy". 

I probably like this stuff as much as Ned. Not heaps. But I'll keep looking for opportunities to indulge in the dirges.

Woo-hoo!!!  Arrived a day ahead of sked.  If work is busy, I'll listen to the CDs.  If not, I'll watch the DVDs.