Site Cost ?

Intellectual property...carry on

Yeah, common' Judit.

COME CLEAN!!!!

Taking trips to Cancun, or maybe a new Subaru Impreza on our dime?????????????

This Zoner,  for one,  fully endorses the Hot-Tub  &  Sauna - equipped vintage Subaru Baja,  which my paltry donation might finance,  in conjunction with the donations of the other dozen or two Zoners who(m) donate.

A Brat would be awesome too,  but WRX seems a bit over- Board.

1-2,000,000 or so. Maybe more. Maybe less?

The only way to get to the bottom of this is to appoint a special prosecutor with extremely broad subpoena powers. 

Always makes my day, seeing Jerry smoking in a cape.

Disco Stu seems to be conflicted regarding the use of who(m).

FOLLOW THE MONEY

No cigarette in first photo, then it magically appears in the second photo (look how surprised he is), then disappears.  Wow, that’s a magic trick!

about 10 bitcoins will do

>>>>>Disco Stu seems to be conflicted regarding the use of who(m).

Insert Thus meme

What's red an smells like blue paint?

Red paint.

Another nonsensical misplaced post to the thread topic.

I'll let you know when to stop

I can only imagine the cost in time to play "hall monitor" around these parts.

the zonies alone mustve cost a fortune....w jeffg, all the midshow entertainment, and Cheap Trick to close?? That  had to be a few dollars...

everyone send $s in, St. Mark already said he d match total December haul

finally a good thread. thank god.

 The zonies were paid for by a donation from a member of .net. Sorry, but they wish to remain anonymous.

NedB --

I shall refrain from Donating until ;

You Cease
To Be 
The Grammar Police ...

The .net guys want to kick in even though they can only lurk. 

They like the content over here. 

http://thephilzone.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=622&sid=4719908b69bab18aa9d2e...

Who = Subject

Whom = Object

it's easy

Mr.  Floops --

You just got released from the Hospital,  and here you are with Grammar tips.

So,  I'm happy that you are OK. 

Stay Well and Calm.  Calcium,  Magnesium,  Potassium,  Manganese  are often associated with Heart / Circulation troubles.  Maybe get some Vitamin / Mineral supplements from a reliable source ??

Do not quote me regarding this meaningless advice.  No claims to be a Quack doctor.

>>>The only way to get to the bottom of this is to appoint a special prosecutor with extremely broad subpoena powers.

Special Prosecutor St. Mark has a nice ring to it.

Lance did you get a new Subaru for Christmas....or are you still driving that piece of shit?

Red or blue paint on the Subaru.

This place could make a ton of money if they sold “stuff”. 

jaz, open a window....

So did slacker get a timeout for linking to that other site? Guess I don't really expect an answer

$25 less than five minutes ago

^nifty sticker or magnet?

pay per post? Maybe a membership fee? ha.

Thanks to those who set the place up and maintain. Honest question for you, is this site dedicated to Phil and his fans?

Also, do you feel there is enough good here these days to make it worth the effort? It must be stressful at times. Its been a year. Maybe it should just fade away peacefully. You gave it a try and that is kind. I hope it is what you expected.

best of luck with your fundraising efforts

>>>>>Also, do you feel there is enough good here these days to make it worth the effort?

Apparently so if they’re doing it.  Or do you think they’re just a bunch of masochists?

I was hoping for a hand job but a magnet is fine

>> Also, do you feel there is enough good here these days to make it worth the effort?

If I could change something that would increase the 'good' so that the baseline might reach 'enough good' on this forum, it would be a requirement that the dullards posters have to read at least the OP of a thread before commenting.

Thoughts?

I support your suggestion, Ateix.

Admittedly, there was a time certain gifted zoners took great joy in "derailing" a thread.

It’s pretty rare that I read anything other than my posts in a thread. I look at pictures though. Does VLZ sell a weed grinder? I might buy one if there’s any left. 

Doesn't work as well, seeing Bobby and Jan in capes.  Now if they were smoking....

slackhole got banned???...lol...now, he can play on that site that has 6 registered socks...

so, did he get banned for something he s done a zillion times, or did he get banned for putting a price on H.I.M. 's head??

oh, and of course....back on topic...pay to play? open up the doors to all, ban no one, ever, and just levy a fine once in a while. You could make it real confusing, like the NFL, where ppl wouldnt know what a "good post" is  until the fine is issued...person then banned til fine is paid...Admin could raise a lot of dough, maybe branch out to key chains and coffee mugs, even

now, for offering up payment for someone to murder a zoner s dog???

half a million should cover it....

the dog is already an innocent victim, so let’s not get crazy and murder the dog. 

Admin needs to take a long hard look in the mirror and figure out if this is really how they want to spend their golden years.

Maybe they could be doing something more beneficial to society as a whole, or to individual progress in life.

For starters, Jambone could really use a copy editor, or (more likely), a writing tutor. Admin?

Nobody's keeping you here against your will, 89.

...

How about Phil in a cape?

>> Nobody's keeping you here against your will

>> http://vivalazone.org/other-stuff/new-zoners

whats the long term solution here? what's the strategy?

I’d contribute if we could get a public tote board of how much each people gave because I would like to read that.

My lawyers and accountants are currently drafting my yearly invoice for my contributions.

over/under viva makes it thru the first trump term? 

over/under trump makes it thru this viva year? 

well, scumbag only has 10 days left to make it thru the year. 

can viva make it 3 more years?

Should have said this coming viva year - 2018.

How about Bobby smoking?

Bobby is a sexier smoker than Phil. 

frank3, what’s with the stalky vibes ~ care to explain yourself?

>>> come clean JUDIT
​>>> this thread must've cost judit a few months of SSN
>>> so if she shaves her upper lip /makes or keeps snow from falling

>>> not stalking at all
>>> was just a question

wtf? i don't care how long you say you've been zoning, check your approach.

all funds we collect go straight to all the services that i manage to help support this site, from hosting to ssl certs – basic shit. we aren't any less transparent than bret and the og crew, so don't bring their good name into a subject matter you know nothing about.

apology accepted, but not for asking a question, for the shitty / stalky approach. you'd be surprised how many more zoner friends you'd find if you were a bit nicer.

site was always full disclosure until now<<

Was it? I recall two years ('13/'14, I imagine) where PZ Admin posted

It takes ${X} to run this site.

I don't recall any "opening of the books" prior to that.

>the site has become a pussyfoot joke

you go girl 

You’re wrong eddiefrank3.  They never gave numbers until Bret took over admin duties and ran the place into the ground.

it was way before 13/14 when zoner $fund$ drives started.<<

True.  Didn't say otherwise.

there was always a basic goal of what was needed ..

Don't think they shared that goal before the last few years.

site costs were always stated ..as far as i remember<<

Again, don't think so.  Pretty sure they never were prior to the last few years.

Maybe they were responding to douche-y insinuations by then.

type gooder now, boss?

How much did Dise donate last year  to get our friend Tulsa chris perma banned?

As lites was fond of saying, "One truly cannot make this shit up".

Lotta deflection in this thread.

Lotta exposure too.

> "One truly cannot make this shit up".

yeah totally 

your life must be so exciting 

"Woohoo!", exclaimed 'Chacho, "My life is the most exciting life ever in the world."

i could care less if they used the money to buy gstain's schwag weed 

couldn't care less?

lol old man please 

see? you really can't make this shit up

>see? you really can't make this shit up

true

so many awesome threads on viva for the holidays. 

>so many awesome threads on viva for the holidays. 

hippies are serious about transparency

lmao 

very true

i could care less 

I know you could. It's fairly obvious.

wait a minute 

is this the least transparent admin in black screen history?

judit n co, what have you done?

.

<<<>>> i could care less if they used the money to buy gstain's schwag weed

haha awesome. 

merry xmas chacho & 6. 

Happiest of holiday wishes to all.

I cannot, in good conscience, donate money to an organization that practices selected censorship, especially within a community that was built on the foundation of freedom of expression.

Judit seems like a lovely lady however and I wish her a very Merry Christmas.

>especially within a community that was built on the foundation of freedom of expression.

lol

just as long as that expression is GD music, drugs, crystals, and patchwork 

^you forgot Rainbows. 

^^^come on man, it's 2017, they're just trying to fit in.

>>> I cannot, in good conscience, donate money to an organization that practices selected censorship, especially within a community that was built on the foundation of freedom of expression.

Good for you.

That being said, I kicked $50 so you can continue to post your discontent.

$50 must get you a nifty magnet. is graham's face on it?

>>> $50 must get you a nifty magnet. is graham's face on it?

If only I was that lucky.

can a black screen truly be transparent?

Depends which side of the force you are on.

Magnets. Amazing.

Damn, those beach photos look strangely familiar. Feel like I've seen them somewhere hahaha

I donated...

I would like a John Mayer and the family band magnet, please.

Dang 6 is excitable this morning. Mike Gordon’s probably walking sideways.

You're supposed to see a doctor if that thing lasts more than 4 hours.

I am so excitable that I built a cage with her bones! Lord have mercy!

 He made fiddle pegs of her long finger bones
Oh the wind and rain
He made fiddle pegs of her long finger bones
Cryin' oh the dreadful wind and rain

And he made a little fiddle of her breast bone
Oh the wind and rain
The sound could melt a heart of stone
Cryin' oh the dreadful wind and rain

Would you say more or less excitable than when you joined .net and denounced Viva?

I still don't think you understand performance art. Have you ever watched The Black Mirror's first season?

I take it you’re unfamiliar with my work with Timmy Hoover And The Abortionists.

Perhaps so. Can you post a link?

I thought there was a post a year ago showing how much it costs to run this joint, but I searched and couldn't find it.

It is the mining of Bitrolls that keeps Viva afloat.

>>>>>>Can you post a link?

Yes

>>and ran the place into the ground.

You really believe that?

>>Yes

Phew!

"There's a world you're living in
No one else has your part
All God's children in the wind
Take it in and blow hard"

No Brian, he did such a good job with it he sold Judit a franchise.

What could he have done differently? It would be important for Admin here to know your thoughts, lest they repeat history.

>It is the mining of Bitrolls that keeps Viva afloat.

just give up

5$

When did you get promoted to Admin Bri?  I’d be flattered but don’t believe you’re being genuine.

I'm just a concerned citizen, like you.

I thought kirley killed the old zone. darkstars for all!

Shiny, shiny. Shiny boots of leather.

you come across like a 50 something year old child, frank3.

congrats.

Sh*ts on Net have him all wound up?

thanks for the lol

According to the new post on the sticky thread, $1095 a year.

So there you have it.

An attempt at an old troll followed by some nonsensical thought with two question marks and three exclamation points, huh?

don't get too excited there, bud. just an observation on your online prowess. 

I mean, you wanted to be noticed making this thread. Bask in your glory, dude.

According to the new post on the sticky thread, $1095 a year<<<

Hosting for this kind of site can range from $60 - $360+ per year.

Even if the remainder is relatively high @ $1,000 in "technical services" ... that's 20 hours at $50 and hour, or 50 hours at $20/hr. 

Aside from playing hall monitor with personalities, there is always going to be crap to deal wtih ... let alone building new .com version.

None of this seems unreasonable to me.

Merry XMAS folks.

>None of this seems unreasonable to me.

that's because viva isn't an airline  

The frank3 strategy:

When in doubt, act JUST LIKE the person you are disparaging.

I used to correspond and trade with a "Frank 3" or "Frankie 3" back in the day when the Zone did lots of trading and vines.

He was a stellar Zoner and sharer of tunes, and didn't seem to wade in any cesspools, Stayed above all the stupid shit and just shared music.

I e-mailed to his old address the other day to see if this was him posting and haven't gotten a response. I would not be surprised if this "Frank3" is not the same person.

The Story of the Christmas Sock?

Stoc King Coal was a merry old troll...

Hoover called him "EddieFrank" above. Wouldn't be surprised.

Have a nice Christmas ya'll.

I would not be surprised if there are more sycophantic socks hanging around Viva either.

A Merry Christmas to you and you and you - and everyone who reads this.

How much were you asking for "Tickle Me Elmo"  Christmas 96, eddiefrank? 

>None of this seems unreasonable to me.

that's because viva isn't an airline<<

Still wondering what song you think is beautiful?