New Study Finds Late-Era GD/JGB Rots Human Brain

Link?

Define "late-era"

anything after 92 caused(s) brain damage.

my last GD show was Vegas Silverbowl 1991.

That one probably cost me some IQ points.

good news is 1972-74 GD and 70's Garcia/Saunders offset and expand neural function

so some of us are gonna be just fine...

^Can one still realize some benefit from recordings?

Or is a live dose required?

     ^ stayathomers anonymous [easily 95% of this message board...but that's perhaps another discussion]

The link between Bobby and the Midnites and dementia is intriguing.

If you bought Bobby and the Midnites "I want to live in America" you are pronounced clinically brain dead according to the American Journal of Medicine.

     >stayathomers anonymous<

Curious, how many GD shows did you attend from 1972-1974?

How about 70's era Garcia/Saunders shows?

those latter songs are not what you want to hear on psychedelics.

I'm a big fan of Eternity, one of my real highlights from the last years. I was at Giant's Stadium 6/5/93, it was magic.

Have somewhere on cassette the David Ganz GD Hour show that has an interview with Bob on writing that song with the great Willie Dixon. Fantastic interview. Deep. Eternity and the wisdom of the blues. Best new post Brent song they did, bluesy and jazzy.  I gotta dig out that interview.  

I kind of disagree.   I tripped hard one night listening to Bobby sing Days Between.  To this day I think it's become his signature song. (to me anyway)

stay-a-thomer?

now that is a symptom

 time to reach for the bleach...

     Ras, recently, in another thread, you were waxing nostalgic about the Warfield...did you actually attend a show at the Warfield?  If so...how was it?

1993 had plenty of great shows.  Sorry if you missed them.

And some of you are in desperate need of a humor tune-up.  Must be the confinement.

took the kids to a 93 shoreline show. that was the last and only show i saw after 92. it was a good time to bow out. my time on the bus was short, but thankful for what i got.

I can do insults, ned. But I won't. 

It's not my fault you don't understand the woman holding the sign wasn't a white power nazi supporter like you so desperately want her to be. . 

Not in the same spirit whatsoever

Greg, as I have already pointed out, if her intent was to point out the fascistic nature of mandated shutdown policies, she botched that by drawing her swaztika backwards, in a style associated with Buddhism and Southwest U.S. native cultures.

Would you agree that her protest was in the spirit of stupid?

>Foolish>Victim<

those do not meet the brain dead/rot material catalog threshold.

     Rasmataz on Friday, April 24th, 2020 - 7:48 am

     JGB @ Warfield

     ABB @ Beacon

     For vibe, best ever, just nuthin else like em'. Comfortable as an old shoe or a nice warm comforter

     So...what are your thoughts on having attended a show at the Warfield?

Ned getting schooled by a rotten brained 90's deadhead...

Good times. 

Attended a few shows at the Warfield bry. Supreme Sound -  Holy Ground.

So sacred a venue, I'm surprised you weren't immediately struck down by a blinding light the second you tried to enter. 

Apostle Paul's Conversion
http://www.rocbible.org/article.cfm?ArticleNumber=10

     Credit where credit is due...what shows did you attend?

     ...in all likelihood we were in the same building together 

I might agree with the GD part. The banging, clanging Grateful Dead Show of that era, with the bloated, overwrought light shows, stage setups & video screens with all the stereotypical images couldn't cover up the lack of depth to the thing (and in fact made it more blatantly obvious). And then you factor in the the ratty soul-less shit show in the lots every night... THAT dark scene could literally create brain damage. I saw it often and I know a few people personally who succumbed to that issue.

But JGB wasn't ever any of that, at least in the BA. Those shows weren't always good but they had no pretension. JGB played so often in the Bay Area in those last years that they were no big deal, it was just Jerry and his band playing songs, and there was rarely any scene outside the venues at all.

JGB was good clean fun, and that's the band and the shows I missed after Jerry left.

     Lance...it's cool that you were an usher at the Warfied and all...but your constant criticism of Garcia's musicianship in his final years is a bit repetitive and inaccurate.

     ...we all get it, you never saw Jerry pick up a guitar outside of the 707 area code...that speaks volumes.

Bryen, would you share your login with anyone?

https://nation.foxnews.com/account/signin/?cmpid=org=NAT::ag=MediaStorm:...

    
     ^ blah blah blah...knotesau

What is the most psychedelic mind expanding area code in the lower 48?

                                                                                                                The 212
 

  281       -       (Apple)           wooooaaaahhhh

Been there done that. Boring

I am stunned by the frequent inaccuracies stated as truths on Viva and elsewhere. Wow, just wow!

>>>those latter songs are not what you want to hear on psychedelics.

The dead had evolved in those later years and wasn't the psychedelic band that many were hoping for. Jerry became more like a grandfather sharing wisdom than trying to melt your brain.  It may not be everyone's cup of tea but there is some good stuff in there if it's your cup of tea (and plenty of bad too).   

>>>>>there is some good stuff in there if it's your cup of tea (and plenty of bad too). 

Yeah, latter day GD-wise, the brain damage is balanced out by the fleeting moments of grace.  I'd call it a wash.

JGB was a different animal.

A better animal in the era under scrutiny.

what'd you guys think once vince was full time back then? anyone bounce b/c of vince? 

shit was pretty horrible -- was listening to 3/28/93 the other day, really great later day dead imo -- vince is just horrible, vocally and musically, kinda makes it hard to ignore hes there. 

why did they let him sing? 

^They let Phil sing!

And Donna

>anyone bounce b/c of vince? <

Yes, but Jerry's inconsistency helped me out the door too

I don't know pyramid I think they liked having the vince slot so they could set up for the showcase 2nd set song, usually. .

e.g. it would be like a china rider or scarlet fire or something big to open the set..then kick back and let vinnie sing one and by the time that ended everyone was stoked for what was coming next...terrapin? darkstar? eyes?  .playin uncle estimated hes gone? Whatever.and it kinda gave the boys a break so they could gear up for the peak of the set which usually would coincide with when everyone in the crowd was peaking. .it was pretty well planned I think,  they had been working on that formula 25 years or so..

..and youre getting these great terrapin jams and spacey playin's, jamming into drums and the 90s drums are the best era for drums space imo with bralove candace.midi..the trippy video screens and cpu fractals state of the art at the time.i wish they would release all that ahit.95 might be the best year for that stuff.I know there are outliers e.f nye 89 run, cal expo 86, egypt..I know... but these 90s sbds I love that stuff. Some really cool rythyms

plus you're getting bust outs all the time every year.playing rare tunes sometimes. .Jerry his ballad stuff up till the very end even with some of the lyrical flubs ..like SOTM basically from june 8 '93 till the end were killer. Dew so many roads that crescendo at the end all the ballads were really next level and better than ever.  His phrasing all that stuff. It was still played differently every time every song 

Tom Thumbs got better Vince era. A lot of the Dylan stuff got better. And I'm talking post Hornsby. 

Uncle Johns was better post bruce .terrapin..you're getting like 25-30 min scarletfires and eyes of the world s 

I never really liked way to go home live but I do now. I listen to every one I don't skip over. 

At the time jun94 samba was a welcome new Vince tune for those of us that had seen too many way to go s by then..and plus it was basically a riff vince had been working on over the past couple years. .and they basically put words to it. It has an islandy feel. His vocals suck but it is what it is. Phil sings some of it with him plus what about jerrys midi solo? jerrys soldier Field samba jam was sweet..7-23-94 they all were good. I love that midi trumpet

Your getting lucy in the sky, rain , i want to tell you..phil is singing a bunch..and really demonstrating his importance in the 90s..unbroken chain, broken arrow..box became a showcase song no longer mid set 1 tune..

Plus Vince sings All to Much which is one of the most psychedelic of the Beatles songs (its on yellow submarine) dude that song was awesome so it wasn't really Vince I had a problem with if anything he was coming into his own

To me I think alot of people had a problem with the song selection they were doing the cramming down our throats thing with the new tunes you were getting the new songs at every stop . I think that contributes to why the 90s get so much shade...

..I also think it's fashionable to hate the '90s..it's almost taboo to like anything after Hornsby left.  You can't even really talk about his last tour with the band , spring 92, but that only adds to my 'people disliked the new songs' theory because that's when we got corinna and that's when alot of people walked away.  

Yeah...soooo...its taboo..youre not supposed to like it..even if you think its good.right?. and omg 1995.spring .week In atlanta sucked..memphis birmingham ...Seattle Vegas all that shit sucked..right? 30 min palace victim foolish was shitty, right? it's all shitty don't waste your time

Yep.. if you bring up anything after bill Graham memorial you might as well be voting trump

don't bring it up you will lose all credibility.  if you like the 90s you're not following the science

(just kidding)

Rip Vince

Ba-BAM!

Frequent inaccuracies on Viva?

Perhaps instead we can call them alternate truths. 

Though that bit about Bobby & the Midnights causing dementia concerns me.

I saw them at the Beacon many moons ago & actually enjoyed it.  
 

Then there was that 95 Philly Visions of Johanna. Oh wait, that only causes brain damage. 

I don't collect phish but I do know some of their stuff and to me samba kinda sounds like 'foam'..I dont know if they still play that one or what.. 

the foam keeps getting thicker..

... and Im faaaling in a deep well..

or something like that...kind of had a similar riff/tempo to samba in the rain

 Late Era Garcia~Grisman is complete 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vzDOgP9EU