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Lots of moving parts and things could end badly if people aren't careful.  Not surprisingly, Britain is in on it too and seized an Iranian tanker off Gibraltar the other day and today the Iranians tried to seize a British tanker in the Persian Gulf before being run off by a nearby British warship.

We have great military minds like Raz. 

War, hahaaaa chump has no worries. he allows puty the run of the mill in Ukraine, Syria, Turkey, Northern Iraq, Black Sea, Baltics,,, etc etc And if it gets ugly,  puty got his back in the iran fiasco,  even if it leads to ww3. Lots of religious kooks believe trump is the one to hasten the end, well tighten them seatbelts folks. You wanted it, you got it.  Must admit, when I first heard of this missile strike, so precise, I thought it was Israel.

Can I select  "banana bread @ a Joe Walsh show" instead?

Lots of moving parts and things could end badly if people aren't careful<<<

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qucMiaknozM

 

^ ahh a leftover from the last go-around with the hostages. I remember it well. Was in court in 1980 waiting to go up before the judge with a few other public defender unfortunates, and there was one mean ass looking tattooed Hispanic with a Fuck Iran t-shirt on. Even the judge was afraid of this bastard. Released him on time served.

Rock Flag and Eagle...

 

and mickey

Does Vegas have odds yet?

I am cool with war if we can update both of these things:

#1 - War's need theme songs. Alan Jackson showed his chops in this infamous stanza from "Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning)"

I'm just a singer of simple songs
I'm not a real political man
I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you
The diff'rence in Iraq and Iran
But I know Jesus and I talk to God
And I remember this from when I was young
Faith, hope, and love are some good things He gave us
And the greatest is love

 

#2 - Trading cards make war fun for even kids' and help morale on the home front.  

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The Topps desert storm cards were WAAAY better

: cracks a lite beer, cranks up Toby Keith :

I ended up with like 9 John Major cards and NO ONE would trade for my extras. It was by far the worst part about that war. 

What would you do
If you were asked to give up your dreams for freedom
What would you do
If asked to make the ultimate sacrifice

Would you think about all them people
Who gave up everything they had
Would you think about all them War Vets
And would you start to feel bad

Freedom isn't free
It costs folks like you and me
And if we don't all chip in
We'll never pay that bill

Freedom isn't free
No, there's a hefty fuckin' fee
And if you don't throw in your buck 'o five
Who will?

What would you do
If someone told you to fight for freedom
Would you answer the call
Or run away like a little pussy

'Cause the only reason that you're here
Is 'cause folks died for you in the past
So maybe now it's your turn
To die kicking some ass

Freedom isn't free
It costs folks like you and me
And if we don't all chip in
We'll never pay that

 

 

And it's 1 - 2 - 3, what are we fightin' for

Don't ask me I don't give a damn, the next stop is Teh-ran

John Olson will save us.

at this point im rooting for the iranians

The Christian iranians?

Rejoyce (Jefferson Airplane)

Steven won't give his arm
To no gold star mother's farm;
War's good business so give your son
And I'd rather have my country die for me!

This is nothing more than Trump trying to distract the media and the world from impeachment.

If we are at all lucky, someone will put a bullet in the fucker's orange head.

America
America

America FUCK YEAH!
Comin' again to save the motherfuckin' day, yeah
America (FUCK YEAH!)
Freedom is the only way, yeah

Terrorist your game is through
'Cause now you have to answer to
America (FUCK YEAH!)
So lick my butt and suck on my balls
America (FUCK YEAH!)
What you gonna do when we come for you now

It’s the dream that we all share
It’s the hope for tomorrow
(FUCK YEAH!)

McDonald's (FUCK YEAH!)
Walmart (FUCK YEAH!)
The Gap (FUCK YEAH!)
Baseball (FUCK YEAH!)
NFL (FUCK YEAH!)
Rock & Roll (FUCK YEAH!)
The Internet (FUCK YEAH!)
Slavery (FUCK YEAH!)

(FUCK YEAH!)

Starbucks (FUCK YEAH!)
Disney World (FUCK YEAH!)
Porno (FUCK YEAH!)
Valium (FUCK YEAH!)
Reeboks (FUCK YEAH!)
Fake tits (FUCK YEAH!)
Sushi (FUCK YEAH!)
Taco Bell (FUCK YEAH!)
Rodeos (FUCK YEAH!)
Bed, Bath & Beyond (FUCK YEAH!, FUCK YEAH!)
Liberty (FUCK YEAH!)
Wax lips (FUCK YEAH!)
The Alamo (FUCK YEAH!)
Band-aids (FUCK YEAH!)
Las Vegas (FUCK YEAH!)
Christmas (FUCK YEAH!)
Immigrants (FUCK YEAH!)
Popeye (FUCK YEAH!)
Democrats (FUCK YEAH!)
Republicans (Republicans)
(fuck yeah)

Hmmmm.....

 https://apnews.com/a6adb7b30adb444998541b1b5aca4332?fbclid=IwAR2R2Xu0cXw...

 

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran has discovered a new oil field in the country’s south with over 50 billion barrels of crude, its president said Sunday, a find that could boost the country’s proven reserves by a third as it struggles to sell energy abroad over U.S. sanctions.

The announcement by Hassan Rouhani comes as Iran faces crushing American sanctions after the U.S. pulled out of its nuclear deal with world powers last year.

Rouhani made the announcement in a speech in the desert city of Yazd. He said the field was located in Iran’s southern Khuzestan province, home to its crucial oil industry.

Some 53 billion barrels would be added to Iran’s proven reserves of roughly 150 billion, he said.

“I am telling the White House that in the days when you sanctioned the sale of Iranian oil and pressured our nation, the country’s dear workers and engineers were able to discover 53 billion barrels of oil in a big field,” Rouhani said.

Oil reserves refer to crude that’s economically feasible to extract. Figures can vary wildly by country due to differing standards, though it remains a yardstick of comparison among oil-producing nations.

Iran currently has the world’s fourth-largest proven deposits of crude oil and the world’s second-largest deposits of natural gas. It shares a massive offshore field in the Persian Gulf with Qatar.

The new oil field could become Iran’s second-largest field after one containing 65 billion barrels in Ahvaz. The field is 2,400 square kilometers (925 square miles), with the deposit some 80 meters (260 feet) deep, Rouhani said.

Since the U.S. withdrew from the 2015 nuclear deal, the other countries involved — Germany, France, Britain, Russia and China — have been struggling to save it. However, they’ve offered no means by which Iran can sell its oil abroad.

Any company or government that buys Iran’s oil faces harsh U.S. sanctions, the threat of which also stopped billions of dollars in business deals and sharply depreciated Iran’s currency, the rial.

Iran has since gone beyond the deal’s stockpile and enrichment limits, as well as started using advanced centrifuges barred by the deal. It also just began injecting uranium gas into centrifuges at an underground facility.

The collapse of the nuclear deal coincided with a tense summer of mysterious attacks on oil tankers and Saudi oil facilities that the U.S. blamed on Iran. Tehran denied the allegation, though it did seize oil tankers and shoot down a U.S. military surveillance drone.

John Bolton must feel like a kid who slept through Xmas.

You should credit the individual from whom you stole your shitty joke, bluestbore. 

#permadoucheTM (gfy)

Lee Greenwood gonna be getting a lot more of those sweet sweet royalty checks in the months ahead.

...

Shit hits fan.jpg

Its on.

Didn't think the Iranians would be so stupid.

Feels strange not to have live video of whatever's hapnin.

 

Our president’s strategy of maximum pressure is clearly working.

Check out twitter.   Its hard to tell what is fake and what is real, but there will be plenty of video and real time updates from on the ground.

FUCK YOU TRUMP FOREVER !!

The United States IS A POS With Foreign Policy !!

Oh well, it’s on. 

Early reports have 20 US military dead from Iranian missile strikes into Iraq. 

I could swear I remember people talking all the time how they would never vote for Hilary because she was such a war monger. Fucking rubes. 

“Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. He's weak and he's ineffective. So the only way he figures that he's going to get reelected — and as sure as you're sitting there — is to start a war with Iran.” - Donald Trump, November 16, 2011

^^Sh*t.  Guess I read an earlier report, which said no casualties.

I blame John Kelly.  He had ample opportunity to snap Trump's neck.

This could quickly become the fried egg thread(s)   

where is it being reported 20 dead? 

im only seeing iraqi casualties being reported. 

He wants that Oil

>>>>where is it being reported 20 dead? 

bad report. sorry for posting bad info. 

its still on, though 

we have more heart

Iran says it has stopped attacking for now and won't start up again so long as the US doesn't strike back.   We will see if that happens.

Trump tweeted and said all is well and he might give an address about it tomorrow morning. 


Putin was in Damascus today and heading to Istanbul tomorrow to meet with Erdogan.

Go figure right?
 

Mohammad bone saw's brother (Khalid bin Salman) delivered a personal message to Trump in the oval office today.

Nothing to see here...

 

Thank gawd Trump has de-escalated this situation and the nightmare is over. Peace will reign in the middle east.

It really sounds like he won the Iran war in less than 12 parsecs. Build more walls to keep out the terrorists. 

Ukrainian airliner with 180 people onboard just crashed right after take off from Tehran.

They say it was "technical difficulties." 

A parsec is a unit which measures distance, not time.

1 parsec = 3.26 light years.

May the force be with you.

 

Trump just lightspeed skipped the Iran war to victory. Poe Dameron take notes. 

Wtf, Ken? The shit ain't mellow. Damn!

 

>>>Wtf, Ken? The shit ain't mellow.

"Orange is young, full of daring
But very unsteady for the first go around
My yellow, in this case, is not so mellow"

Yeah, pretty fucked up shit.   Some say the lack of casualties at the US bases might have been on purpose so as to not escalate it too far and put the ball back in America's court.   Or maybe the US troops just got a heads up and bunkered down or got out of dodge before they hit.

Either way, its now up to the US to take the next step and I am afraid it might mean the 52 targets.  Hope I am wrong and cooler heads prevail.

The airliner going down is tragic.  Iranian state TV says it was technical problems, but there are videos up on Twitter showing it going down in a ball of flame.   No good and awful for all those people on board.


is it a mandate yet?
 

Al Hadath News out of Jordan reporting unconfirmed reports that Iran anti aircraft shot down the Ukrainian airline.

Missiles launched at app. 0230 local time, passenger plane takes off at 0244 local.

Ukrainian passenger plane stopped reporting radar, speed, etc.. at 8,000 feet.  

Gregulator was right, this will be a cake walk. USA. 

All is Well!

 

BryThom nominating tRump for Nobel Peace Prize 

Two groups of four B-52s leaving Barksdale Air Force Base.

So that was the "revenge"?   Quite the dud if it was.

Iran may very well be signaling that it doesn't want a full blown war and gives Trump the opportunity to call the Iranians pussies, declare victory, and move on without further escalation.

Trump literally sounds like a robot. 

This speech is ridiculous. If anyone needs to be terminated it's Trump. He tore up a functioning deal that created a safer world and has stirred up a lot of trouble that will haunt the US for years to come. What a total piece of shit.

This fool just claimed

US is now fully energy independent

ISIS has been 100% eliminated under his direction

Iran shot missiles directly purchased with money obtained directly from the last U.S. administration

 

 

It's disgusting how he can stand there and lie like that and there are people that actually believe this drivel.

(and now, some real fake news)

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/ayatollah-mystified-that...

TEHRAN (The Borowitz Report)—Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, is “completely baffled” as to why he appears to be the only dictator whom Donald J. Trump does not like, the autocrat said on Monday.

Speaking to reporters in Tehran, the long-reigning tyrant expressed puzzlement and dismay that Trump had not given him the adulation that he has showered on seemingly every other totalitarian in the world.

“Trump loves Vladimir Putin and Mohammed bin Salman, and he’s even given Kim Jong Un a cute nickname, but, for some mysterious reason, I leave him cold,” the visibly saddened Ayatollah said. “I just don’t get it.”

Khamenei initially tried not to take Trump’s distaste for him personally, he said, “but when it became clear that he liked even second-tier strongmen like Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, of Turkey, and Rodrigo Duterte, of the Philippines, I’d be lying if I said it didn’t hurt.”

One possible reason Trump might dislike him, the Ayatollah theorized, is that “he just doesn’t realize how repressive I am.”

“If he did his homework, he’d see that I trample press freedoms, shred basic human rights, and persecute political opponents,” he said. “In terms of the things that are important to him, I really check all the boxes.”

This speech is ridiculous. If anyone needs to be terminated it's Trump. He tore up a functioning deal that created a safer world and has stirred up a lot of trouble that will haunt the US for years to come. What a total piece of shit. <<<<

THIS thanks Woz Spot On !

63 Canadians on that Boeing plane and iran isn't playing ball with the black boxes. That plane had no history of problems and had just been serviced two days prior. Just lost contact after 8000ft. Very unusual.  Also view emerging of a fireball falling from the sky and the debris field scattered like it came down in pieces. Suggesting it came apart in the sky

Zombies!!!!

 

all fn repugnant repubs

Loser

yep looking at you with no moral compass  and now Green Bay deserves to lose 

cuz u be on their side 

us blues for sure   Sad non patriots you are

 


Yeah but the Democrats want to impeach him from day one and a half hours those fucking Democrats

STFU

 

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/nicolle-wallace-astonis...

Their 'supreme leader' claiming victory on state tv over there.  Saying they won't stop until all infidels are removed from the middle east. 

He didn't mention the 6 hr advanced notice they gave the bases that they targeted...and missed.

 

Was talking to a Russian friend yesterday, his take was that this will not escalate. His reasoning was that neither Iran nor Russia want increased US involvement in the region.  

I'm curious as to what the Iraqi militias might do. How much control does Iran have over these groups?

The plane was headed to Toronto

little donnie is in a pickle

You've been saying that for three years. 

Now playing - "Donny Isis and His 52 Cultural Sites".

>>>>I'm curious as to what the Iraqi militias might do. How much control does Iran have over these groups?

Like a lot of things about Iraq, its all over the map.  There are dozens of these so called popular mobilization forces (PMFs) and have varying ties and loyalties to Tehran.  I read that al-Sadr who controls some of the more powerful Shiite militias has told his folks to stand down, but just yesterday somebody lobbed some rockets into the Green Zone.

my right winger fried is stoked. he wants to blow up the cultural sites as well. 

Wrong again coach slack I never once said hes in a pickle but he is now for sure..

The black boxes are already out of the country and Canada/NTSB won't be able to investigate. ..or reclaim the bodies and have them brought back home. they are stonewalling. Canada and the rest of the free world want answers

It might not have been their military but it was probably one of the rogue militias. .either or..

Total horseshit

 

what country are they in?


Early reports are it looks be an Iranian fired, Russian made surface-to-air TOR missle.

Iran does have these.

 

 

“Scientifically, it is impossible that a missile hit the Ukrainian plane, and such rumours are illogical.”  - Ali Abedzadeh, head of Iran's Civil Aviation Organization

There you have it.

^ Translation = Oops

Can these dead also be chalked up to stump and his fucked foreign policy blunders ? I say hell yes.


Trudeau says Canada has intelligence Iran shot down Ukrainian airliner​

CNN)Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Thursday that Canadian officials have intelligence from their own sources and Canada's allies that shows a Ukrainian airliner was shot down by an Iranian surface to air missile. "This may have been unintentional," Trudeau said at a press conference in Ottawa.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/politics/is-iran-ukraine-plane/index.html

 

'Unintentional'..

Then where is the heartfelt apology? 

 

marke no mistake those missles were intended to kill Americans they just missed.  Many of them didn't explode either.  they weren't warning shots. And one of them hit a commercial airliner unintentionally? Just happened to be on the way to Toronto. .

Come on

 

Methinks it would take some serious planning for a surface to air missile to unintentionally hit a moving airplane.

 

It was unintentional just like the US Navy unintentionally shot down that Iranian airliner back in 1988.   Misidentification.    They meant to shoot it down, but didn't know it was a civilian aircraft.  Probably some nervous young soldiers who had been up all night waiting for the US Air Force to come shooting across the sky.

>>> marke no mistake those missles were intended to kill Americans they just missed.  Many of them didn't explode either.  they weren't warning shots. And one of them hit a commercial airliner unintentionally? Just happened to be on the way to Toronto. 

Come on <<<


First the plane wasn't on it's way to Toronto, it was on its way to Kiev.

 

The missile that hit the Ukrainian Airliner was an anti aircraft missile, not the same as what they used 

to lob at the 2 Bases.

 

There were no casualties, because they had a 3 hour heads up to prepare and take cover.

 

3 Hours From Alert to Attacks: Inside the Race to Protect U.S. Forces From Iran Strikes

WASHINGTON — The alert came to the White House shortly after 2 p.m. on Tuesday, a flash message from American spy agencies that officials sometimes call a “squawk.” In the coming hours, it warned, an Iranian attack on American troops was almost certain.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/08/us/politics/trump-iran-suleimani.html
 


 

Is it fair to say that POTUS's decision to kill Soleimani has resulted in the deaths of 56 people (funeral stampede) plus 176 people (Ukrainian airliner)?

Not really

^^id say the blood is def on trumps hands. no doubt. 

no assassination, no fired missiles. 

> Is it fair to say that POTUS's decision to kill Soleimani has resulted in the deaths of 56 people (funeral stampede) plus 176 people (Ukrainian airliner)? <

 

absolutely 100% fact.

>>>>no assassination, no fired missiles. 

I get the reasoning, but taken to its logical conclusion, it would be similar to saying the Japanese were responsible for the atomic bomb on Hiroshima.  No Pearl Harbor, no atom bomb.  Or more directly on point, it would be like saying the Iranians were responsible for the shoot down of Iran Air Flight 655 in 1988 because the USS Vincennes was responding to hostile action by the Iranian attack boats when it mistook the airliner for a warplane.  

The Iranians made the choice to retaliate with a missile strike days later.   They could have instead filed grievances with the UN or taken some other less hostile action in response. 

Was thinking of the butterfly/drone effect...

Debris from the missle that took down the jet has been collected and removed from the crash sight by iran. now iran officially denying it was brought down by the missle. 'black boxes damaged' my ass

 

..wasn't solemani the terrorist who ordered the killing of the American contractor? I thought the drone strike was the retaliation...

 

Why was the plane cleared to fly in the first place.  Iran should have closed the airspace

Plane was connecting flight to Toronto

^138 of the passengers were bound for Toronto

 

Among the victims were 82 Iranians, 63 Canadians, 11 Ukrainians including all nine crew, 10 Swedes, four Afghans, three Britons and three Germans, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko said.

 

Iran's head of emergency operations said 147 of the victims were Iranian. That would suggest that 65 of the foreign nationals had dual nationalities

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51047006

 

Greg, do you believe that Iran intentionally killed its own citizens?

 

I believe that Ken's explanation is the most likely. 

 

I dont understand why iran doesn't just admit their mistake and begin the heartfelt apology. 

There is clear video of the plane being struck mid air and exploding. 

 

If they are so innocent then why remove missle debris and not let the black boxes out? Why lie and continue to say it was mechanical failure.  

Iran doesn't recognize 'duel citizenship'  like other countries do...so how does that figure in?  

 

If it wasn't intentional then they should be apologetic. .not stand off ish. They just shot down a commercial jet for crying out loud

 

Here's video of the missle striking the plane

https://youtu.be/TdvcKFtrjV0

 

It's being shown on Canadian TV news all morning. ..

 

 

>Iran doesn't recognize 'duel citizenship'  like other countries do...so<

 

So that still leaves 82 Iranian citizens killed.

 

>If it wasn't intentional then they should be apologetic<

 

Perhaps the Iranians are afraid that the recently unified Iranian public may be angered by the killing of 82 of their fellow countrymen?

^ yeah greg it's obvious to all. This is a direct result of stump starting shit, period.  All these post solemani strike deaths are on his hands. Iranians had an itchy trigger because of clump, period. Why they don't apologize is yer basic, forced into a corner denial, again dumps fault. They'll come up with a convincing story soon, rightly blaming hump. Just as soon as they hire me as press secretary.

< angry killing 82 of their own > yep

So your saying iran is telling the truth and it was mechanical failure? 

..looks like plane was pierced from outside in aftermath footage

 

The iranians killed may have been duel citizens not recognized by Iranian gvt, I dont know. .

The plane was headed to 'the west' filled with 138 people destined for Toronto.  Maybe it was a rougue group of soldiers that launched that missile but usually you're taking orders if it was an Iranian surface to air missile someone was ordered to push the button.  So there's that. But who knows maybe one of the soldiers took the jihad thing a little too literally. 

Either way it's clear it was shot down by iran and Canada is looking for answers and no one is buying the mechanical failure story they are trying to sell the world. 

 

 

^No, I am not suggesting that Iran is telling the truth. 

 

Not sure that the Iranians care what Canada, or the rest of the world, believes. I think the story is designed to appease the Iranian public.  

Kinda like the official Iranian news org reporting that 80 Americans were killed in the missile strike.

and Canada is looking for answers

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plane things are mysterious and tricky.

 

Pretty obvious by now it was a Russian missile of the type sold to Iran.

Prob. accidental - they were expecting a counter-attack.

 

But why didn't Iran shut down the airport?

Or why was the carrier flying right after the Iranian missile barrage?


>>> But why didn't Iran shut down the airport? <<<

Good question.

After Iran lobbed bombs into Iraq, It was the 10th flight cleared for takeoff.

 

>>>>But why didn't Iran shut down the airport?

That's a good question.  As soon as the Iranians launched the missiles, the FAA and various airlines and air travel administrations immediately banned flights through Iraqi and Iranian airspace in anticipation of a big shootout.  Many scheduled flights had to turn back, were rerouted, or were canceled.   Not sure what the air traffic controllers at Tehran International Airport were thinking allowing that plane to take off under those conditions.

One thing that hasn't come up (at least from what I have seen) is the possibility that there was some sort of cyber attack or electronic warfare that messed up the Iranian air defenses.   It is no secret the United States and Israel have sophisticated cyber technology to knock out or confuse enemy air defense systems.   In fact, when Trump ordered and then canceled that airstrike last year after the drone was shot down, the United States had already launched a cyber attack to disable the Iranian air defense systems.  

If Iran wanted to generate sympathy and present a more believable story, they could say that the air defense system was confused by an American cyber attack or electronic warfare and that was the cause the tragedy.   But as noted above, Iran doesn't really care what the rest of the world thinks and probably wouldn't want to go around admitting its mighty military is susceptible​ to such cyber attacks.      

slack that is some weak ass buster shit, bro.

I'm not getting paid for it, bruh.

Apparently there is video of the plane getting hit by a missile, trying to turn back to the airport, then blowing up.

^^^

I saw that and also saw additional footage at the time of the downing showing the plane coming down in a ball of fire.   Looks a lot like other footage I have seen of planes getting shot down over Syria.

However, other people have taken the footage, added another missile, and posted the altered video on Twitter just to show how it all could be fabricated.

>>> However, other people have taken the footage, added another missile, and posted the altered video on Twitter just to show how it all could be fabricated. <<<


You do know that the US Intelligence put out a 3D simulated video of 2 missiles hitting the plane right?

It was simulated off of US Intelligence radar.

So there's that.

 

Iran denies shooting down jet plane...denying Canada access to black boxes.

 

Has anyone figured out how the 9 prior jets that took off weren't targeted? 

Also how can it be reported that it was mistakenly shot down when iran won't admit that they even shot it down at all?

Iran has now admitted that they shot it down and attributes the tragedy to "human error."

 

Hmm...

 

Trump privately admits he killed Soleimani “under pressure” from upcoming impeachment trial: report

 

President Donald Trump privately told associates that his upcoming impeachment trial factored heavily into his decision to kill top Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, The Wall Street Journal reports.

“Trump, after the strike, told associates he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate,” associates of the president told the outlet.

The revelation, buried deep into a lengthy piece about the strike, follows a similar report from The New York Times.

“Trump pointed out to one person who spoke to him on the phone last week that he had been pressured to take a harder line on Iran by some Republican senators whose support he needs now more than ever amid an impeachment battle,” The Times reported Tuesday.


https://www.salon.com/2020/01/10/trump-privately-admits-he-killed-soleim...

 

I guess the Trump considers the impeachment trial an “imminent attack.”

Not a trump supporter but this soleimani killed hundreds and wounded thousands of coalition soldiers according to this...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/08/why-administration-cl...

Not a war supporter, but The Iraq Body Count project documents between 183,348 - 205,908 violent civilian deaths from HW's war, GW's war,  through April 2019.  

greg, that link provides no evidence whatsoever, just repeats the trump administrations baseless claims. where is the evidence?

USA v the world

imperialism

just f em all.   Show me the money 


Greg was way better at posting archive and youtube links while trump was getting smashed here during the mueller russia probe.

 

Fuck war!

Trump authorized Soleimani's killing 7 months ago, with conditions

The timing raises new questions about the Trump administration's stated justification for taking out the top Iranian general.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump authorized the killing of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani seven months ago if Iran's increased aggression resulted in the death of an American, according to five current and former senior administration officials.

The presidential directive in June came with the condition that Trump would have final signoff on any specific operation to kill Soleimani, officials said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-authorized-sole...

 

 


Ever wonder why they didn't name the American contractor killed that set of the killing of Q Salami?
Maybe it's because his name is Nawres Hamid and would've not played well with Trumps base, while sucking the air out of the media for days. Because if his name was say Chad Smith (all american boy) they would've plastered his picture and said his name ad-naseum everywhere.

 

Firm Identifies Contractor Whose Death in Iraq Set Off U.S-Iran Confrontation

An American defense contractor identified the employee whose death last month in a militia rocket attack in Iraq triggered retaliatory strikes in Iraq and Syria, culminating in the U.S. killing of a top Iranian military leader.

Nawres Hamid was working as a linguist for Valiant Integrated Services LLC at a base in Kirkuk, Iraq, when he was killed in a Dec. 27 rocket attack, the company said. Some of the rockets hit an ammunition storage depot on the base, setting off secondary explosions, according to accounts provided to U.S. defense officials.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/firm-identifies-contractor-whose-death-in-i...

 

Fuck War!

 

 

There's something fishy as hell about that airplane being shot down. I'm certainly not going to do the work but it would be interesting to know exactly WHO was on that plane. I assume most of the foreigners (Canadians) were likely either Iranian-Canadians or part of some delegation. Why? Because, I mean, how often do Canadians travel to Iran for there to be that many on one flight? So when Iran says how many Iranians, they're probably referring also to many of the Canadians, the British person, etc. who entered and left Iran with an Iranian passport, but likely left (and were going to enter) Canada or UK with their Canadian/British passport. 

So who was this group of Canadian or Iranian-Canadians flying out of Iran? Who was on that plane? I bet if you picked the list apart one name at a time you would find some interesting details.

Seriously: nobody questions the prevalence of Canadians on that flight? Is this usual for 30% of a flight out of Tehran to be filled with Canadians? I've travelled in many places (not Iran) and there's usually one or two, maybe a handful of Canucks in any given place at a given time. Unless they're part of a delegation - scientific, diplomatic, artistic, etc...

So you get the toothless response in the bombing of the American base in Iraq. Doesn't sound like a very hefty response to the American aggression.

Add to it a series of tremors (that happened on that same day or so) that are similar to those you would have from underground nuclear bomb testing, and now you have a more meaty response. 

Throw in some heavy duty personnel shot down in a passenger plane, and NOW, you have a response that's worthy of a totalitarian government showing Trump they mean no bullshit. 

Maybe....


>>> Seriously: nobody questions the prevalence of Canadians on that flight? <<<

A lot of them were returning to school/university after holiday break.

Canada cut off communications with Iran in 2012 ending direct flights to Tehran.

Most common travel is Toronto > Kiev > Tehran and vice versa.

 

 

Most of the Canadians were Iranian-Canadians, many from the same extended family.  Big ex pat community up there.   Canada has relatively liberal immigration laws and its surprising how multi-cultural the country has become over the past few decades.  

The poutine served with the Great North Platter on the Kiev-Toronto leg is amazeballs.

Javs with the baseless conspiracy theory. Nice.

 

 

Here is a BBC story explaining why there were so many Canadians on board:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51053220

Looks like the Mullahs' fanciful initial story about a "mechanical problem" is backfiring and costing them any "rally around the flag" goodwill they gained from the assassination.      

 

"A memorial for Sunday is being organised by an Iranian heritage group, an Iranian student association, and the University of Alberta, an institution that lost a number of its faculty members and students in the crash."

 

Java Dave making jokes after a plane crash killing hundreds. 

Who can it Bibi, now?

>>>>Javs with the baseless conspiracy theory. Nice.

Sorry, I forgot that baseless speculation wasn't allowed on the Philzone. I'll go to the penalty box for 3 minutes.

Fnord.

This ain't the Philzone brother,  it's Viva. We're more tolerant n lenient. Well, most of us are putting in the effort.

Tryin Real Hard To Be The Shepherd
https://youtu.be/Mh3Wftae0c0

 

>> I'll go to the penalty box for 3 minutes<<

 

Jav's, it's either a 2 minute minor, a 5 minute major, a 10 minute misconduct, a game misconduct, or a penalty shot. 

YES and the meltdown scale only goes to 5.0  :)

 


Now some truth is coming out...

 

Eleven US Troops Were Injured in Jan. 8 Iran Missile Strike
 

Nearly one dozen American troops were wounded in Iran’s Jan. 8 missile attack on Iraq’s al-Asad air base. This week, they were medically evacuated to U.S. military hospitals in Kuwait and Landstuhl, Germany, to be treated for traumatic brain injury and to undergo further evaluation, several U.S. defense and military officials have confirmed to Defense One. 
 

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/01/eleven-us-troops-were-injured...

 

Trump said no troops were injured and some got puppies.

So much spin on both sides.


More truth still coming out.

About a dozen more US troops medevaced from Iraq over possible concussions following Iran's missile attack

Roughly a dozen U.S. troops showing concussion-related symptoms are being medically evacuated from Al-Asad Air Base in Iraq to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, a defense official told Task & Purpose on Tuesday.

These troops are in addition to the 11 service members that have already been treated at medical facilities outside Iraq due to Iran's Jan. 8 ballistic missile attack on two Iraqi bases hosting U.S. troops.

https://taskandpurpose.com/more-troops-iraq-concussions

 

Fuck War!

 

 

 

“I heard that they had headaches and a couple of other things, but I would say and I can report it is not very serious,”

 

President Trump

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-usa-casualties-idUSKBN1...



That's your leave them in lurch president, bryen and thom.

 

Fuck War!

 

 

Some more truth 16 days later...

 

34 U.S. Troops Diagnosed With Traumatic Brain Injuries After Missile Strike: Pentagon

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon said Friday that 34 U.S. troops were diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries suffered in this month’s Iranian missile strike on an Iraqi air base, and that half of the troops have returned to their military duties.

Seventeen of the 34 are still under medical observation, according to Jonathan Hoffman, the chief Pentagon spokesman.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/brain-injuries-iraq-missile-strike_n_5e2b...

 

Fuck War!

 

 

Liar

 breath 

lie

 breathe

lie

 

Truth and ethics don't matter

the repulsive party don't care

f women and minorities and the poor

sad 

 

"Christian " lol.  
Protect the unborn and put the born in concentration camps

 

The troops that got sent home with concussions were down in the bunkers and got shook around pretty bad.  TBI is a common injury in the wars in the middle east where the US troops are protected by modern armor, but still get shook up by things like IEDs or ballistic rockets.  They might come out without any obvious injuries but still end up in the long run like a boxer or NFL lineman. 

I can't believe someone in the Pentagon doesn't take trump out

Someone in the Pentagon, the FBI, the State Dept, DOD, CIA, NSA, etc etc etc

Take one for the team fellas, before its too late for this republic


As my stomach turns....


64 US troops suffered traumatic brain injuries from Iranian missile attack, as casualty total continues to balloon

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon announced Thursday that 64 American troops sustained mild traumatic brain injuries as a result of the Iranian missile strikes on two military bases in Iraq, once again revising how many service members were hurt in the Jan. 8 attack.

 

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/64-us-troops-suffered-traumatic-brain-in...

 

 

Maybe give them some aspirin and they'll be fine?
 

Fuck you bryen and fuck you thom.

 

FUCK WAR!!!
 

 

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     Hillary was the neocon in the 2016 race, to deny that is to deny reality...you're completely delusional to suggest otherwise.  Your transparent attempt to politicize these recent injuries is pretty pathetic...even for you.
     I shudder to think of the lives that would have been lost three years into a Hillary Clinton presidency, her bloodlust for endless war was the cornerstone of her political identity.

     https://youtu.be/PAjSur1B_JU


Hillary ordered the assassination of salami?

no, trump did
 

Now just get the fuck outta here

 

64 US troops suffered traumatic brain injuries from Iranian missile attack, as casualty total continues to balloon

 

 


Fuck War!
 

 

     If you voted for Hillary in 2016 you either knowingly supported the neoconservative agenda of endless war and bloodshed, somehow rationalizing that decision in the voting booth...or were experiencing some sort of cognitive disconnect with reality.


You hear that bro's?

If you voted Hillary (centrist) in 2016 after bernie got beat by her in the primary.

you did the right thing.

 

Fuck off bryen

 

 

     As a matter of fact, that's one of my main issues with Sanders, he knowingly endorsed a bloodthirsty war monger and rationalized it a thousand ways, he knows she's pure darkness but endorsed her anyways, which is to be expected of your "run of the mill" political hack, but I thought he was different, I thought he was special...in the end, not so much.



im sensing you're in pain.

 

you still suck

 

#butter

 

 

     Enjoy the day.

Iran no longer cooperating with Ukraine after they released audio confirming that Iran knew immediately that it had shot down the jet. They still haven't given up the black boxes.

Iran finally agrees to give up the black boxes to Kiev.

It's about time

Things are heating up again after a rocket attack kills US and UK troops at a base in Iraq:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/pentagon-threatens-retaliatory-st...