Murdered DNC staffer had contact with WikiLeaks

No comment on Trump revealing classified info to the Russians?

I guess you are comfortable being an apologist for Trump's criminal, and likely treasonous administration.

>>>>>online conspiracy theories 

say no more

It's great to know that when all else fails you clowns still fall back on the Clinton murder mysteries. 

Strong work. 

What if it's not true..is it still Huge?

A federal investigator who reviewed an FBI forensic report detailing the contents of DNC staffer Seth Rich’s computer generated within 96 hours after his murder, said Rich made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter​

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“My investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and Wikileaks,” Wheeler said. “I do believe that the answers to who murdered Seth Rich sits on his computer on a shelf at the DC police or FBI headquarters.”

The federal investigator, who requested anonymity, said 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments between Democratic National Committee leaders, spanning from January 2015 through late May 2016, were transferred from Rich to MacFadyen before May 21.

On July 22, just 12 days after Rich was killed, WikiLeaks published internal DNC emails that appeared to show top party officials conspired to stop Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont from becoming the party’s presidential nominee. That controversy resulted in Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigning as DNC chairperson. A number of Sanders supporters refused to back party nominee Hillary Clinton, and some subsequently formed groups to work against Clinton and the party."

Rachel Maddow was awesome last night. 

^ she is insufferable.

Why?

Louise Mensch isn't going to like this.

^Aiq, the 2 to 3 beat pauses in her delivery, she constantly repeats herself and talks around her point before stating it, her smug and condescending chuckles while countering information she disagrees with, or that is false. I have more, but must run. 

It be fine if she were zoning, but is just about unwatchable on TV. I prefer Chris Hayes' style

"I'm sure Thoms checking the library to find a democrat that leaked classified info in the 18th century to use as an excuse for the current shitshow in the whitehouse."

lol!!

OK, thanks for responding.

Just a new thing I'm doing.  Like when someone tells me they are a conservative or they like Trump I ask why...many can't really tell me.

HUGE IF TRUE 

Huge if what's true?
I see no allegations or speculations.

It's the very first line of the thread, try to hang in there 

FOX 5 has learned, bwahahahahahahahaaaaaaa !

Thom's too exhausted from all this winning to comment on the current situation.

>> It's the very first line of the thread, try to hang in there 

I see that. There's a few more dots to connect. If he contacted Wiki, then who killed him? And why?

Enough of the "I'm just sayin'..."

take it easy on bucky b nedb, i think his brain is workin' overtime...

thanks turtle 

Curd-ish?

 >>>There's a few more dots to connect.

for sure. 

http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-rigged-hillary-clinton-dnc-lawsui...

A class action lawsuit alleging the Democratic National Committee worked in conjunction with Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign to keep Bernie Sanders out of the White House has been raging on in the courtrooms for months on end–and yet, most people have no idea of its existence, in large part thanks to the mainstream media's total lack of coverage.

 

mandatory minimums

I'm keeping my mind open to the possibilities.  Of course, I also read The Palmer Report and watch Rachel Maddow.

I don't take everything they say blindly, but I find much of it very interesting.

>>>>>Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter​

^How did he die?

Family of slain DNC staffer Seth Rich blasts detective over report of WikiLeaks link

The family of the Democratic National Committee staffer who was gunned down on July 10 on a Washington, D.C., blasted reports that he was a source of thousands of emails leaked to WikiLeaks.

Rod Wheeler, a retired Washington homicide detective and Fox News contributor hired by a third party to investigate the case made the WikiLeaks claim, which was corroborated by a federal investigator who spoke to Fox News.

But a spokesman for Rich's family on Tuesday said Wheeler was not authorized to speak for the family and called assertions Seth Rich sent emails to WikiLeaks "unsubstantiated." Brad Bauman said even if purported emails were to surface, it would not necessarily mean Rich had helped WikiLeaks.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/16/slain-dnc-staffer-had-contact...

There's plenty of partisan hacks in FBI on the left & right to investigate every death that ever occurs in DC area.

Oh BTW It's now officially YUGE.

You are correct, Seadog. Trump's obstruction of justice is huge. 

You just keep waving your flag

From the conservative Washington Times:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/16/seth-richs-family-police...

When  Trump tweets about Fox News' message then we will know it's YUGE. 

Thom/SeaPutz...

You ready for this?

It's gonna be YUGE!

Sauve!!

Thom, got any more Pizzagate stories to share?

>It took only hours for one of the biggest stories in conservative media this week, which some outlets had chosen to focus on over news that President Trump disclosed classified information to senior Russian officials, to fall apart.

On Monday night, Rod Wheeler, a private investigator and Fox News contributor, put things in motion during an interview with WTTG-TV, a Fox affiliate in Washington.

Wheeler, who was under contract with the family of Seth Rich, a Democratic National Committee staffer who was fatally shot in July, told WTTG-TV evidence existed that proved Rich had been in contact with Wikileaks before his death.

For months, right-wing media outlets have floated unproven theories that Rich was the person who provided Wikileaks thousands of internal DNC emails, and that his death might have been connected with the supposed leak.

No real evidence has been provided to support such claims and Washington's Metropolitan Police Department, which continues to investigate the murder, says there is evidence to suggest he may have been the victim of a botched robbery.

Nevertheless, a handful of right-wing media outlets have latched on to the theory -- and Wheeler's remarks on Monday allowed the narrative to once again ricochet throughout the conservative media universe.

"NOT RUSSIA, BUT AN INSIDE JOB?" asked Breitbart, the far-right website previously led by White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, which said that "if proven, the report has the potential to be one of the biggest cover-ups in American political history, dispelling the widespread claim that the Russians were behind hacks on the DNC."

"DEAD DNC STAFFER 'HAD CONTACT' WITH WIKILEAKS," declared the headline of the Drudge Report, the highly-trafficked conservative news destination.

Fox News on Tuesday morning joined in the chorus, publishing a lead story on its website about the "DC MURDER MYSTERY." The story said Wheeler had made the claim Wikileaks had been in contact with Rich. It added that a federal investigator, who it said had spoken on the condition of anonymity, corroborated it.

But Tuesday afternoon, Wheeler told CNN he had no evidence to suggest Rich had contacted Wikileaks before his death.

Wheeler instead said he only learned about the possible existence of such evidence through the reporter he spoke to for the FoxNews.com story. He explained that the comments he made to WTTG-TV were intended to simply preview Fox News' Tuesday story. The WTTG-TV news director did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

"I only got that [information] from the reporter at Fox News," Wheeler told CNN.

Asked about a quote attributed to him in the Fox News story in which he said his "investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and Wikileaks," Wheeler said he was referring to information that had already been reported in the media.

A Fox News spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment by the time of publication.

Earlier Tuesday, Brad Bauman, a spokesman for the Rich family, released a statement in which he said the family had "seen no evidence" to suggest Seth Rich had been in contact with Wikileaks.

Bauman told CNN the outlets that had run with the story "have shown over and over again that they are willing to lie and manipulate the facts" to further "their own political end."

"I think it's important for everyone at Fox News to be careful with this information and how this story breaks because using the legacy of a murder victim in such an overtly political way is morally reprehensible," he said.

Bauman also said the Rich family was reviewing possible legal action against Wheeler for speaking about the case publicly. A contract between Wheeler and the Rich family prohibited Wheeler from speaking to the media about his ongoing investigation, Bauman said.

"It is possible that this private investigator is in breach of a non disclosure contract," Bauman told CNN, adding that the private investigator's public comments have "seriously impeded the ability of the Metropolitan Police Department to investigate."

Asked whether he was in breach of a contract, Wheeler said, "I don't know, it's hard to say."

"I think that's something I will have to work out with [the family]," he added.

Wheeler was put in touch with the Rich family through Dallas businessman Ed Butowsky, who told CNN he had offered to pay any bills associated with the investigation.

"You have a family who can't afford a PI. Their son was killed. So I offered to help out," Butowsky said.

Butowsky, a financial adviser, has provided commentary to Fox News on a number of occasions. He has also written columns for Breitbart, and was critical of Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election.

Speaking with NBC News, Butowsky had denied his involvement with Wheeler and the Rich family. Asked why, he told CNN, "I didn't want to talk to NBC."

Butowsky also said that, thus far, he hasn't "paid any money to anybody." He said Wheeler was investigating the Rich murder at no cost.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/16/media/seth-rich-family-response-claims-o...

I've seen House of Cards.  I know what's up.  0___O

Murder was the case that they gave me. 

>> Asked about a quote attributed to him in the Fox News story in which he said his "investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and Wikileaks," Wheeler said he was referring to information that had already been reported in the media. <<

Hey, he watched it on TV!!

Nice work, Thom.

haha!   fell for fake news.  

Thom doesn't have a very good batting average.

But...but...no politician in history has been treated worse!   Waaaaaaaa!

To take the podium at a college commencement and turn it into personal pity pot time is so cheap.

Tool...

Yeah, the black Muslim who  wasn't even born in America was treated way better than Trump. It's just not fair!!!

Fox Stands By DNC Murder Conspiracy Theory Even After Main Source Changes Story

Fox News reporter Malia Zimmerman says she spent 10 months working on her story.

By Travis Waldron

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-seth-rich_us_591cd078e4b034...

Fox News and its Washington, D.C., affiliate, Fox 5, are standing by their conspiracy-mongering reports that slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich was connected to WikiLeaks before he was shot to death in July ― even as those stories fall apart.

Fox News and Fox 5 published separate stories about the supposed links Tuesday. But since then, the main source has changed his story, D.C. police and the FBI have disputed the most explosive claims, and Rich’s family has called on the network and station to issue retractions, saying that “inaccurate reporting” is “damaging the legacy” of Rich, a 27-year-old DNC staffer who was slain as he walked to his Washington home.

Fox 5 didn’t respond to multiple HuffPost requests for comment about its report. A spokesperson for the station told DCist it was standing by the story.

Earlier Wednesday, Refet Kaplan, managing director of Fox News Digital, said in an email to HuffPost: “We continue to track developments in the story and will update further when the situation warrants. The network has not addressed the questions and apparent discrepancies surrounding its story.

Washington police believe Rich was killed in a botched robbery attempt and continue to investigate, the Metro Police Department said in a statement Tuesday.

But since Rich’s death, right-wing websites have pushed the conspiracy theory that the Democratic Party, DNC or Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton was somehow responsible for the killing because of Rich’s supposed ties to WikiLeaks. The theory rests on WikiLeaks’ release of a trove of internal DNC emails weeks after Rich was killed.

There is no evidence to support the theories. U.S. intelligence officials said in January that the leaks were the work of Russian hackers, who provided the information to WikiLeaks. But Fox 5 and Fox News gave the theories fresh life in stories published Monday night and Tuesday morning, respectively.

The Fox 5 story was based on the claims of Rod Wheeler, a former D.C. homicide detective hired by a third party to privately investigate Rich’s murder. Wheeler’s bona fides were questionable from the start: A Fox News contributor since 2002, he has a history of making outlandish and baseless claims. During one appearance on Fox News, he asserted that armed bands of lesbians were roaming American cities and assaulting children.

Wheeler claimed to the local station that a source in law enforcement told him there was credible and confirmed evidence on Rich’s laptop computer that Rich had communicated with WikiLeaks before his death. Wheeler also said law enforcement officials told him that D.C. political figures had told them to “stand down” on his investigation.

Tuesday morning, Fox News published a version of the story that also relied on Wheeler as its sole named source. But it added information from an anonymous “federal investigator,” who said that “44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments between Democratic National Committee leaders, spanning from January 2015 through late May 2016, were transferred from Rich” to WikiLeaks.

The explosive headlines quickly spread across conservative media ― from Breitbart to The Drudge Report to Fox News’ Sean Hannity ― throughout the day Tuesday. But soon after the stories gained traction, they began to unravel.

Rich’s family, in a pointed statement, dismissed possible connections between their son and WikiLeaks, and accused Wheeler and the outlets of “pushing conspiracies.”

Metro Police said Wheeler’s claims were false. D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser called allegations of a cover-up “preposterous” in an interview with The Daily Caller.

Tuesday night, meanwhile, Wheeler changed his own story, telling CNN that he  “only got” the information about a possible connection between Rich and WikiLeaks “from the reporter at Fox News,” and that he had no evidence of such a connection himself.

It was always clear that Wheeler was repeating information that he had heard from another source, instead of relaying the results of his own “probe.” But his revised version doesn’t necessarily mesh with the timeline of the stories’ publication. The Fox 5 story went live Monday evening; the first Fox News version posted on Tuesday, just after 6 a.m. EDT, and relied on the Fox 5 piece as a source.

It was only later that the Fox News piece was revised, adding investigative reporter Malia Zimmerman’s byline and reporting, including claims made by the anonymous federal investigator.

Zimmerman posted the article to her public Facebook page early Tuesday, and said she had “worked on this story for 10 months” ― a time frame that aligns with Rich’s July murder. Zimmerman’s Fox News archives, however, include no other published pieces about the Rich case.

Further, there are potential holes in the reporting Zimmerman added. Her story asserts that the FBI ran a “forensic report” on Rich’s laptop within 96 hours of his murder. NBC reported Wednesday that the FBI never possessed or examined Rich’s laptop, raising doubts about the forensic report and how the unnamed federal investigator would be aware of such details about the contents of Rich’s computer.

Efforts to reach Zimmerman by phone on Wednesday afternoon were unsuccessful. She did not respond to an email request for comment.

Neither Fox 5 nor Fox News have issued corrections to their pieces, though Fox News altered its versionTuesday afternoon to note the Rich family’s dismissal of the claims and to remove a quote suggesting a cover-up by police. Fox 5 published a subsequent pieceWednesday morning titled, “Seth Rich Murder: What we know and what we don’t know.”

Late Wednesday, Fox 5 published another story (and aired a TV report) to “make an important clarification.” It acknowledged that Wheeler had “backtracked” on his claims and said that he “characterizes his on-the-record and on-camera statements as ‘miscommunication.’” Fox 5, however, still hasn’t fully retracted its initial story.

Brad Bauman, a spokesman for the Rich family, said Tuesday that the stories were an effort to spread a “political agenda.” He said the family was calling for a full retraction of both stories.

“They need to retract the story or issue an apology, or the family will consider other options, including legal, to clear their son’s name and get Fox to do what’s right,” Bauman told CNN.

Is it true yet?

Thom knows a good witch hunt when he sees one. 

Apparently, it's not true. :(

"A spokesman for Rich’s family slammed conservative outlets for trying to “manipulate the legacy of a murder victim in order to forward their own political agenda,” adding “there is a special place in hell for people” reporting on the story."

not huge after all 

"WikiLeaks has never disclosed a source. Sources sometimes talk to other parties but identities never emerge from WikiLeaks.#SethRich"

https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/866536275972689920

"I'm definitely  for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real basis for it."

https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082#efmAGSAH-

Glad that OP was able to bring this story into the light for all to see.

Hannity went on vacation, Thom..... uh oh

Damn.

September 2016 reference from CNN employee.

https://m.imgur.com/a/eHVA9

Still cant believe the Awan brothers arent in jail. 

I wonder what they have on the DNC.

I'd like to share your negative news about the DNC on other music message boards, Facebook and a chain email smiley, but I don't completely understand your post.

can you please explain for me TY

So someone had this guy's place staked out at 4AM, just on the remote chance he would go out for a walk at that ungodly hour?

The people that believe stuff like this are the problem 

Hey everybody! Turns out that when Thom created this thread over two years ago, what most of us believed was true! That Thom was spreading bullshit rumors on our message board in order to sow dissension within our community and country. There were a few others too, 73 something and a Lassen perhaps. Way to go guys. 

Huge AND true: 

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-the-true-origins-of-the-seth-rich-consp...

The disgusting thing is if you click on Thom's original link the story is still up. 

Fucking dupes....  Pathetic. 

Interesting story and link Badger,

Curious about those.pod casts as well...

...the more you know...

but being a professional trained librarian by trade....thom is supposed to be educated about resources, journalism, citing sources and the like.

do you think he sucks at it, or this is just part of their plan to seed disinformation on the internet?

Poor Thom.

Well, we are living in a dystopian hell brought on by Obama Care. It's hard for people to concentrate on what's real when we constantly have to justify our existence to the death panels.